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We've had a pocket handkerchief for the last mumble years, but this
one's a little larger - about 50x25 metres.

I'm not really into stripes. Suggestions for a mower please?

Andy
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Vir Campestris wrote:
We've had a pocket handkerchief for the last mumble years, but this
one's a little larger - about 50x25 metres.

I'm not really into stripes. Suggestions for a mower please?

Andy

Sheep and fence off a small patch for some mint to let them know who is
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"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
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We've had a pocket handkerchief for the last mumble years, but this
one's a little larger - about 50x25 metres.

I'm not really into stripes. Suggestions for a mower please?

A reputable manufactured rotary petrol.
Keep it sharp and the blades balanced properly
Your choice if you need mulching of cut sward, or not into a bag or vac
attachment
Wash it off properly after use or it'll rot
Don't go for *anything* with a plastic base...Just don't.
Electric mowers are for the occasional garden lawn mowing Sunday enthusiast,

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On 11/03/2014 21:51, Nthkentman wrote:
"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
o.uk...

We've had a pocket handkerchief for the last mumble years, but this
one's a little larger - about 50x25 metres.

I'm not really into stripes. Suggestions for a mower please?

A reputable manufactured rotary petrol.
Keep it sharp and the blades balanced properly
Your choice if you need mulching of cut sward, or not into a bag or vac
attachment
Wash it off properly after use or it'll rot
Don't go for *anything* with a plastic base...Just don't.


My plastic-based honda begs to differ. However this may well be more
expensive than the ones you're thinking of - they save steel for their
cheaper models.

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On 11/03/2014 21:51, Nthkentman wrote:
Electric mowers are for the occasional garden lawn mowing Sunday
enthusiast,


Yes. I have one of those, and it isn't going to be up to it.

(And sheep are just too much work. They spend all their time working out
new ways to die)

Andy


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On 11/03/2014 23:07, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 11/03/2014 21:51, Nthkentman wrote:
Electric mowers are for the occasional garden lawn mowing Sunday
enthusiast,


Yes. I have one of those, and it isn't going to be up to it.

(And sheep are just too much work. They spend all their time working out
new ways to die)

Andy





And, anyway, they only give you stripes when you've knitted their wool:~}

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"Nthkentman" wrote:
"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
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We've had a pocket handkerchief for the last mumble years, but this
one's a little larger - about 50x25 metres.

I'm not really into stripes. Suggestions for a mower please?

A reputable manufactured rotary petrol.
Keep it sharp and the blades balanced properly
Your choice if you need mulching of cut sward, or not into a bag or vac attachment
Wash it off properly after use or it'll rot
Don't go for *anything* with a plastic base...Just don't.


My Qualcast mower has a plastic deck. In 20 years it has acquired a small
crack that I've plated over to stop it spreading. Still working well and
hardly ever cleaned after use.

No rust yet! Plastic decks aren't all bad.

Tim
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On 11/03/2014 21:51, Nthkentman wrote:

Don't go for *anything* with a plastic base...Just don't.


Having had the rear wheels fall off my Hayter Hunter 41 at least three
times so far (needing replacement of the plastic partial under tray) I
would have to concur!




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In article ,
"Nthkentman" writes:
Electric mowers are for the occasional garden lawn mowing Sunday enthusiast,


I used to agree (having repaired a good many friends' ones).

However, if you go to a proper lawn mower stockist rather than
the sheds, you'll find induction motor mowers (rather than the
cheap universal motors used in most electric mowers), and I
now rate induction motors better than petrol ones - they have
exactly the right torque profile for mowing grass (whereas
the cheap universal electric motors are exactly the wrong
torque profile, and petrol is somewhere in the middle).
Note that the power rating of an induction motor mower will
often be somewhat lower for the same output power or cutting
width, as they're more efficient.

When I last bought one, the induction motor mower was the
most expensive of the choices (electric universal, electric
induction, petrol). However, it doesn't need the servicing
that a petrol mower needs, nor brush replacing of a
universal motor (although most universal motor mowers are
designed to be chucked out when the brushes wear out).

However, induction mowers were getting harder to find (people
won't pay the extra, not understanding the difference), and
it was some years ago since I last checked the market and
bought one.

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On 12/03/2014 09:30, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"Nthkentman" writes:
Electric mowers are for the occasional garden lawn mowing Sunday enthusiast,


I used to agree (having repaired a good many friends' ones).


However, induction mowers were getting harder to find (people
won't pay the extra, not understanding the difference), and
it was some years ago since I last checked the market and
bought one.


Was there not some EU directive on motor noise that was going to prompt
a general switch to induction motors?



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In article ,
John Rumm writes:
On 12/03/2014 09:30, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"Nthkentman" writes:
Electric mowers are for the occasional garden lawn mowing Sunday enthusiast,


I used to agree (having repaired a good many friends' ones).


However, induction mowers were getting harder to find (people
won't pay the extra, not understanding the difference), and
it was some years ago since I last checked the market and
bought one.


Was there not some EU directive on motor noise that was going to prompt
a general switch to induction motors?


Sounds like the EU.

There's one coming which limits the power of vacuum cleaners, but
I can't imagine any of the bureucrats use a vacuum cleaner, so if
it takes twice as long, what would they care?

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:18:35 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

There's one coming which limits the power of vacuum cleaners, but I
can't imagine any of the bureucrats use a vacuum cleaner, so if it takes
twice as long, what would they care?


Except it won't, because there's plenty of efficient vacs already under
the power limit - and plenty of inefficient, noisy, shit ones waaaay over
it.
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In article ,
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
On 12/03/2014 09:30, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"Nthkentman" writes:


Electric mowers are for the occasional garden lawn mowing Sunday enthusiast,

I used to agree (having repaired a good many friends' ones).


Are they, bejabers? Mains electric mowers are by far the best solution
for small lawns, and we have had a few for the past 30+ years.

Was there not some EU directive on motor noise that was going to prompt
a general switch to induction motors?


Sounds like the EU.


Sounds like the Daily Wail, actually. It isn't hard to make a
reasonably quiet petrol motor if one tries, and almost all of the
better ones are.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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On 11/03/2014 21:51, Nthkentman wrote:
"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
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We've had a pocket handkerchief for the last mumble years, but this
one's a little larger - about 50x25 metres.

I'm not really into stripes. Suggestions for a mower please?

A reputable manufactured rotary petrol.
Keep it sharp and the blades balanced properly
Your choice if you need mulching of cut sward, or not into a bag or vac
attachment
Wash it off properly after use or it'll rot
Don't go for *anything* with a plastic base...Just don't.
Electric mowers are for the occasional garden lawn mowing Sunday
enthusiast,


It may be tempting fate to say it, but generally the Honda engine on my
grass cutter has been quite easy to start. The engine is a GCV160 5,5
hp. I bought it in 2006. Much better than the previous engine, which
was to bad that my neighbour seeing (or hearing) my frustration offered
to lend me his grass cutter.

What annoys be about Honda is that it is impossible to get a decent
engine manual.


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On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:39:04 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

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"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
o.uk...

We've had a pocket handkerchief for the last mumble years, but this
one's a little larger - about 50x25 metres.

I'm not really into stripes. Suggestions for a mower please?

A reputable manufactured rotary petrol.
Keep it sharp and the blades balanced properly Your choice if you need
mulching of cut sward, or not into a bag or vac attachment


Yes, and I was doing OK with a Hayter R53A, now 4 years old. But
yesterday it decided it was boy-racer time. Started it up and it sat
there revving itself up and down, like some teenage **** at traffic
lights. It eventually settled down a bit, but gee, what is it with
these things? And, en plus, it was serviced not long ago.


Suggest spraying all the cables and springs and things with WD40 - I had
this and it was just the automatic governor being a bit sticky.

A blast of WD40 over the area of the engine where all the controls are
managed to cure this.

Cheers

Dave R


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