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I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg


There's more than one type of olive?
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
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I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg


It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.

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On 2014-06-29 15:20:12 +0000, Derek Turner said:

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg


There's more than one type of olive?


Well, yes! How many types of olive do you see if you go to the olive shop?!
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On 29/06/2014 16:30, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg


It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.

Steve



see http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

There are a couple of dwarf varieties as well that I have come across


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On 2014-06-29 15:51:06 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 16:30, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg


It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.

Steve



see http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

There are a couple of dwarf varieties as well that I have come across


We have - or had - the 'usual' ones. This isn't it. It could be a dwarf
- bit early to tell. It's around 4' now.
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On 29/06/2014 17:21, Sacha wrote:
On 2014-06-29 15:51:06 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 16:30, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg

It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.

Steve



see http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

There are a couple of dwarf varieties as well that I have come across


We have - or had - the 'usual' ones. This isn't it. It could be a dwarf
- bit early to tell. It's around 4' now.

That's to big for the dwarf ones.
What makes it different?

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On 2014-06-29 16:37:53 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 17:21, Sacha wrote:
On 2014-06-29 15:51:06 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 16:30, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg

It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.

Steve



see http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

There are a couple of dwarf varieties as well that I have come across


We have - or had - the 'usual' ones. This isn't it. It could be a dwarf
- bit early to tell. It's around 4' now.

That's to big for the dwarf ones.
What makes it different?


The leaf. Ray says he's had it for several years and that it was given
to him as an unusual olive. I'm suspicious that it's an olive but what
do I know?! Here's a closer pic of the leaf. It's a bit myrtle like
but the overall growth is nothing like a myrtle.
http://i57.tinypic.com/25qrm2t.jpg
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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg

It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.


Which "usual" one? There are many named varieties and cultivars.

http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

Janet



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On 29/06/2014 18:52, sacha wrote:
On 2014-06-29 16:37:53 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 17:21, Sacha wrote:
On 2014-06-29 15:51:06 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 16:30, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which
type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg

It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.

Steve



see http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

There are a couple of dwarf varieties as well that I have come across

We have - or had - the 'usual' ones. This isn't it. It could be a dwarf
- bit early to tell. It's around 4' now.

That's to big for the dwarf ones.
What makes it different?


The leaf. Ray says he's had it for several years and that it was given
to him as an unusual olive. I'm suspicious that it's an olive but what
do I know?! Here's a closer pic of the leaf. It's a bit myrtle like
but the overall growth is nothing like a myrtle.
http://i57.tinypic.com/25qrm2t.jpg



As you know, if it were a Myrtle then you would get a scent from a
crushed leaf.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...psf880a043.jpg
Just about all the named fruiting varieties of Olive are grafted on to
wild Olea europaea rootstock, which has a much smaller leaf, and that is
what I would say you have there, a wild olive.
David @ a dry side of Swansea Bay


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On 29/06/2014 21:02, David Hill wrote:
On 29/06/2014 18:52, sacha wrote:
On 2014-06-29 16:37:53 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 17:21, Sacha wrote:
On 2014-06-29 15:51:06 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 16:30, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha

wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which
type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg

It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.

Steve



see http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

There are a couple of dwarf varieties as well that I have come across

We have - or had - the 'usual' ones. This isn't it. It could be a dwarf
- bit early to tell. It's around 4' now.
That's to big for the dwarf ones.
What makes it different?


The leaf. Ray says he's had it for several years and that it was given
to him as an unusual olive. I'm suspicious that it's an olive but what
do I know?! Here's a closer pic of the leaf. It's a bit myrtle like
but the overall growth is nothing like a myrtle.
http://i57.tinypic.com/25qrm2t.jpg



As you know, if it were a Myrtle then you would get a scent from a
crushed leaf.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...psf880a043.jpg

Just about all the named fruiting varieties of Olive are grafted on to
wild Olea europaea rootstock, which has a much smaller leaf, and that is
what I would say you have there, a wild olive.
David @ a dry side of Swansea Bay


Follow-up
Found this picture of olive rootstock
http://edible.wdfiles.com/local--res...jpg/medium.jpg
But then came across this
http://www.ngkenya.com/flora/olea_capensis.html
I didn't know there was an African olive, but it could tie in with your
being told it is unusual.
David
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On 2014-06-29 20:26:15 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 21:02, David Hill wrote:
On 29/06/2014 18:52, sacha wrote:
On 2014-06-29 16:37:53 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 17:21, Sacha wrote:
On 2014-06-29 15:51:06 +0000, David Hill said:

On 29/06/2014 16:30, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha

wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which
type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg

It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.

Steve



see http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

There are a couple of dwarf varieties as well that I have come across

We have - or had - the 'usual' ones. This isn't it. It could be a dwarf
- bit early to tell. It's around 4' now.
That's to big for the dwarf ones.
What makes it different?

The leaf. Ray says he's had it for several years and that it was given
to him as an unusual olive. I'm suspicious that it's an olive but what
do I know?! Here's a closer pic of the leaf. It's a bit myrtle like
but the overall growth is nothing like a myrtle.
http://i57.tinypic.com/25qrm2t.jpg



As you know, if it were a Myrtle then you would get a scent from a
crushed leaf.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...psf880a043.jpg


Just about all the named fruiting varieties of Olive are grafted on to
wild Olea europaea rootstock, which has a much smaller leaf, and that is
what I would say you have there, a wild olive.
David @ a dry side of Swansea Bay


Follow-up
Found this picture of olive rootstock
http://edible.wdfiles.com/local--res...jpg/medium.jpg

But then came across this
http://www.ngkenya.com/flora/olea_capensis.html
I didn't know there was an African olive, but it could tie in with your
being told it is unusual.
David


The first is very similar, both in the leaf and the growth habit. The
second is alike in the leaf shape but ours have more glossy leaves.
Thanks so much, David. I'll see what Ray thinks tomorrow. He's drifting
off to Nod right now! As often happens, I think someone has been
abroad on holiday and brought him back a plant or some cuttings.

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On 2014-06-29 20:26:15 +0000, David Hill said:
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Follow-up
Found this picture of olive rootstock
http://edible.wdfiles.com/local--res...jpg/medium.jpg

But then came across this
http://www.ngkenya.com/flora/olea_capensis.html
I didn't know there was an African olive, but it could tie in with your
being told it is unusual.
David


Ray agrees it's definitely the first pic which seems to be an Arbequina
olive, so at least we can put a name to it. As you say, it's now used
mainly as rootstock but its history is intriguing as it appears to have
been introduced to Europe a very long time ago, in the 17th century.
Very many thanks, David.
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 19:33:31 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg


It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.


Which "usual" one? There are many named varieties and cultivars.

http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

Janet



True. I should have used a different word. Maybe 'common' would be
more appropriate. I was only talking genus and species and I'm not
aware of any others.

Steve

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 19:33:31 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:57:51 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I don't know if this pic is good enough but does anyone know which type
of olive this is? All we know is it's an olive!
http://i59.tinypic.com/eg6l4.jpg

It looks like the usual Olea europaea to me.


Which "usual" one? There are many named varieties and cultivars.

http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olive_cultivars.html

Janet



True. I should have used a different word. Maybe 'common' would be
more appropriate. I was only talking genus and species and I'm not
aware of any others.

Steve

They are just like apples in their diversity, I would imagine very hard to
sort out the named fruiting forms (unless you live in an area famous for
growing them!)

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