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No Name 01-07-2014 02:19 AM

Slug control on GQT
 
Dear All,
On Sunday's Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4, in a discussion
on slug control on runner beans an anti-slug spray was mentioned. It
was described as an organic, calcium based spray that can be applied
to the leaves and deterred the slugs. See
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cb01 25 minutes into the
recording. Does anyone know what this stuff is and where it can be
obtained?

Thanks
Tom Crane

Ps. The email address in the header is just a spam-trap.
--
Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill,
Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England.
Email: T dot Crane at rhul dot ac dot uk


Martin Brown 01-07-2014 01:34 PM

Slug control on GQT
 
On 01/07/2014 02:19, ] wrote:
Dear All,
On Sunday's Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4, in a discussion
on slug control on runner beans an anti-slug spray was mentioned. It
was described as an organic, calcium based spray that can be applied
to the leaves and deterred the slugs. See
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cb01 25 minutes into the
recording. Does anyone know what this stuff is and where it can be
obtained?


It appears to be slaked lime and is only Organic(TM) in the sense that
the Henry Doublspeak organisation does not absolutely forbid using it.

Thanks
Tom Crane

Ps. The email address in the header is just a spam-trap.



--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Sacha[_11_] 01-07-2014 01:55 PM

Slug control on GQT
 
On 2014-07-01 12:34:30 +0000, Martin Brown said:

On 01/07/2014 02:19, ] wrote:
Dear All,
On Sunday's Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4, in a discussion
on slug control on runner beans an anti-slug spray was mentioned. It
was described as an organic, calcium based spray that can be applied
to the leaves and deterred the slugs. See
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cb01 25 minutes into the
recording. Does anyone know what this stuff is and where it can be
obtained?


It appears to be slaked lime and is only Organic(TM) in the sense that
the Henry Doublspeak organisation does not absolutely forbid using it.


But wouldn't that do harm to many plants? Are we looking at the cure
being worse than the disease?!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Nick Maclaren[_3_] 01-07-2014 04:32 PM

Slug control on GQT
 
In article ,
Martin Brown wrote:
On 01/07/2014 02:19, ] wrote:
Dear All,
On Sunday's Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4, in a discussion
on slug control on runner beans an anti-slug spray was mentioned. It
was described as an organic, calcium based spray that can be applied
to the leaves and deterred the slugs. See
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cb01 25 minutes into the
recording. Does anyone know what this stuff is and where it can be
obtained?


It appears to be slaked lime and is only Organic(TM) in the sense that
the Henry Doublspeak organisation does not absolutely forbid using it.


That is nonsense. It is organic in the sense that it is a normal
part of the extended biosphere (i.e. including compounds that are
recyclable decomposition products of biological organisms), and is
readily usable/decomposable/etc. by normal and common natural chemical
and biochemical pathways. Just like chalk, table salt etc.

Unlike those, it is not a common part of the biosphere, but it is
created (perhaps via quicklime) whenever a volcano erupts under
limestone or chalk and probably under other circumstances.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Bob Hobden 01-07-2014 05:53 PM

Slug control on GQT
 
Tom Crane wrote
On Sunday's Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4, in a discussion
on slug control on runner beans an anti-slug spray was mentioned. It
was described as an organic, calcium based spray that can be applied
to the leaves and deterred the slugs. See
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cb01 25 minutes into the
recording. Does anyone know what this stuff is and where it can be
obtained?


Is it perhaps food grade Diatomaceous Earth mixed with water and sprayed
onto the plants.

--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


Jeff Layman[_2_] 01-07-2014 08:39 PM

Slug control on GQT
 
On 01/07/2014 13:55, Sacha wrote:
On 2014-07-01 12:34:30 +0000, Martin Brown said:

On 01/07/2014 02:19, ] wrote:
Dear All,
On Sunday's Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4, in a discussion
on slug control on runner beans an anti-slug spray was mentioned. It
was described as an organic, calcium based spray that can be applied
to the leaves and deterred the slugs. See
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cb01 25 minutes into the
recording. Does anyone know what this stuff is and where it can be
obtained?


It appears to be slaked lime and is only Organic(TM) in the sense that
the Henry Doublspeak organisation does not absolutely forbid using it.


But wouldn't that do harm to many plants? Are we looking at the cure
being worse than the disease?!


I guess that the main problem would be with ericaceous plants, as slaked
lime is very alkaline. But then you probably wouldn't have need to use
it on ericaceous plants - AFAIAA slugs tend to leave those alone.

--

Jeff

No Name 02-07-2014 01:13 AM

Slug control on GQT
 
Jeff Layman wrote:
: On 01/07/2014 13:55, Sacha wrote:
: On 2014-07-01 12:34:30 +0000, Martin Brown said:
:
: On 01/07/2014 02:19, ] wrote:
: Dear All,
: On Sunday's Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4, in a discussion
: on slug control on runner beans an anti-slug spray was mentioned. It
: was described as an organic, calcium based spray that can be applied
: to the leaves and deterred the slugs. See
: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cb01 25 minutes into the
: recording. Does anyone know what this stuff is and where it can be
: obtained?
:
: It appears to be slaked lime and is only Organic(TM) in the sense that
: the Henry Doublspeak organisation does not absolutely forbid using it.
:
: But wouldn't that do harm to many plants? Are we looking at the cure
: being worse than the disease?!

: I guess that the main problem would be with ericaceous plants, as slaked
: lime is very alkaline. But then you probably wouldn't have need to use
: it on ericaceous plants - AFAIAA slugs tend to leave those alone.

Slaked lime isn't likely to encourage snails is it?! They are attracted to
limestone rocks and lime washed walls etc. for calcium for their shells
aren't they?

re; 'organic' from a chemistry class standpoint it is a small irony
that Calcium Hydroxide is a carbon-free ionic bonded compound!

Tom.

Ps. The email address in the header is just a spam-trap.
--
Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill,
Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England.
Email: T dot Crane at rhul dot ac dot uk


No Name 09-07-2014 01:14 AM

Slug control on GQT
 
wrote:
: Jeff Layman wrote:
: : On 01/07/2014 13:55, Sacha wrote:
: : On 2014-07-01 12:34:30 +0000, Martin Brown said:
: :
: : On 01/07/2014 02:19, ] wrote:
: : Dear All,
: : On Sunday's Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4, in a discussion
: : on slug control on runner beans an anti-slug spray was mentioned. It
: : was described as an organic, calcium based spray that can be applied
: : to the leaves and deterred the slugs. See
: :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cb01 25 minutes into the
: : recording. Does anyone know what this stuff is and where it can be
: : obtained?
: :
: : It appears to be slaked lime and is only Organic(TM) in the sense that
: : the Henry Doublspeak organisation does not absolutely forbid using it.
: :
: : But wouldn't that do harm to many plants? Are we looking at the cure
: : being worse than the disease?!

: : I guess that the main problem would be with ericaceous plants, as slaked
: : lime is very alkaline. But then you probably wouldn't have need to use
: : it on ericaceous plants - AFAIAA slugs tend to leave those alone.

: Slaked lime isn't likely to encourage snails is it?! They are attracted to
: limestone rocks and lime washed walls etc. for calcium for their shells
: aren't they?

: re; 'organic' from a chemistry class standpoint it is a small irony
: that Calcium Hydroxide is a carbon-free ionic bonded compound!

This topic is also being discussed here
http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...ray_80383.html
where the poster writes,

"I think the speaker probably meant this stuff Grazers Slugs and Snails
(http://www.gardening-naturally.com/a...nd-Snails.html)
which, if is like Sluggo is based on Iron Phosphate and
interferes with the slug/snail's calcium metabolism. So not based
on calcium."

Anyone like to comment?

Regards
Tom.

Ps. The email address in the header is just a spam-trap.
--
Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill,
Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England.
Email: T dot Crane at rhul dot ac dot uk



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