Does anyone else grow these outside? As usual we planted Ferline, Legend and
Lesotto (could not get any Fantasio). Unusually all have died of blight this
year and the only tomatoes left growing are the self sown ones out on the
plot which so far are not showing any signs of blight and are covered in
fruit. They are obviously from last years Lesotto (which is F1) but they do
seem to be more resistant than the original, perhaps they crossed with one
of the others. I will be saving seed!
Is Blight becoming more infective or are there more strains about?

-- Regards
Bob Hobden
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from the W.of London. UK

Bob Hobden wrote:

Does anyone else grow these outside? As usual we planted Ferline, Legend and
Lesotto (could not get any Fantasio). Unusually all have died of blight this
year and the only tomatoes left growing are the self sown ones out on the
plot which so far are not showing any signs of blight and are covered in
fruit. They are obviously from last years Lesotto (which is F1) but they do
seem to be more resistant than the original, perhaps they crossed with one
of the others. I will be saving seed!
Is Blight becoming more infective or are there more strains about?

-- Regards
Bob Hobden
Posting to this Newsgroup
from the W.of London. UK
All of my outside tomatoes on the allotment succumbed to blight and I
basically lost the lot. 12 plants all of which were cropping very
heavily when the "plague" struck. And that in spite of me spraying them
regularly against the disease.
Blight does seem to me to becoming much more infective in the past few
years.
I shan't bother with tomatoes or potatoes again next year.

Peter
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The e-mail address obviously doesn't exist. If it's essential
that you contact me then try peterATpfjamesDOTcoDOTuk

"Peter James" wrote
Bob Hobden wrote:

Does anyone else grow these outside? As usual we planted Ferline, Legend
and
Lesotto (could not get any Fantasio). Unusually all have died of blight
this
year and the only tomatoes left growing are the self sown ones out on the
plot which so far are not showing any signs of blight and are covered in
fruit. They are obviously from last years Lesotto (which is F1) but they
do
seem to be more resistant than the original, perhaps they crossed with
one
of the others. I will be saving seed!
Is Blight becoming more infective or are there more strains about?


All of my outside tomatoes on the allotment succumbed to blight and I
basically lost the lot. 12 plants all of which were cropping very
heavily when the "plague" struck. And that in spite of me spraying them
regularly against the disease.
Blight does seem to me to becoming much more infective in the past few
years.
I shan't bother with tomatoes or potatoes again next year.


Funny enough I dug up a 20ft row of maincrop spuds yesterday and there was
no sign of blight. There is another row I've taken the hulms off and yet
another that is still green and lush with no sign of blight yet the tomatoes
have gone to the dump. I'm trying to work out some way of protecting the
plants from the rain for next year as there is nothing like the taste of
outdoor grown tomatoes.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

Bob Hobden wrote:
: Does anyone else grow these outside? As usual we planted Ferline, Legend and
: Lesotto (could not get any Fantasio). Unusually all have died of blight this
: year and the only tomatoes left growing are the self sown ones out on the
: plot which so far are not showing any signs of blight and are covered in
: fruit. They are obviously from last years Lesotto (which is F1) but they do
: seem to be more resistant than the original, perhaps they crossed with one
: of the others. I will be saving seed!
: Is Blight becoming more infective or are there more strains about?

Lesotto -- did you mean Losetto? I have grown these in containers
in S.E. Essex this year where there have been numerous warnings of a
Full Smith Period on http://www.bligh****ch.co.uk in recent weeks.
Some of the unripe tomatoes have had the characteristic brown-green
mottling but the stems have had none of usual the brown marks/legions
I've seen with blight on other varieties in the past. None of our G/H
plants which are all other varieties have been affected. I'm not sure
whether we've had blight or not!

Regards
Tom Crane

: -- Regards
: Bob Hobden
: Posting to this Newsgroup
: from the W.of London. UK

Ps. The email address in the header is just a spam-trap.
--
Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill,
Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England.
Email: T dot Crane at rhul dot ac dot uk

Tom Crane wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
: Does anyone else grow these outside? As usual we planted Ferline, Legend
and
: Lesotto (could not get any Fantasio). Unusually all have died of blight
this
: year and the only tomatoes left growing are the self sown ones out on the
: plot which so far are not showing any signs of blight and are covered in
: fruit. They are obviously from last years Lesotto (which is F1) but they
do
: seem to be more resistant than the original, perhaps they crossed with
one
: of the others. I will be saving seed!
: Is Blight becoming more infective or are there more strains about?

Lesotto -- did you mean Losetto? I have grown these in containers
in S.E. Essex this year where there have been numerous warnings of a
Full Smith Period on http://www.bligh****ch.co.uk in recent weeks.
Some of the unripe tomatoes have had the characteristic brown-green
mottling but the stems have had none of usual the brown marks/legions
I've seen with blight on other varieties in the past. None of our G/H
plants which are all other varieties have been affected. I'm not sure
whether we've had blight or not!


Yes I did mean Losetto. Our plot is in Thorpe, just down the road from
Holloway, so you must have had blight by now, everyone else has around here.
Even the Losetto in our hanging baskets at home did but not before they had
finished fruiting.
We find the blight resistant tomatoes do eventually get blight but it does
not affect them the same as "normal" tomatoes, they tend to still crop for
some while after getting the dark blotches on the leaves. Indeed IME if you
take off those infected leaves as soon as seen then the plant survives
longer. Losetto seems to be the best at resisting blight at the moment, our
Ferline and Legend went quite quickly this year yet the Losetto lasted weeks
more.
If you also use Bordeaux Mixture then they all survive well, I didn't this
year.
Last years Losetto seeded around our plot because we could not get to all
the fruit under the plants and this year we had them coming up like weeds,
still germinating now, got a good crop off the ones I left to grow.
Interestingly right now we have one tomato that has grown beside one of our
compost bins, between it and our rabbit fence, that plant is now 5ft tall
and covered in green fruit. Looks to be a cross between Losetto (fruit size)
and Ferline (plant size). I'm keeping an eye on it to see how long it lasts
and if I can get seed, from comments I've heard I'm not the only allotment
holder watching it. :-)
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 08/10/2014 08:23, Bob Hobden wrote:
Tom Crane wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
: Does anyone else grow these outside? As usual we planted Ferline,
Legend and
: Lesotto (could not get any Fantasio). Unusually all have died of
blight this
: year and the only tomatoes left growing are the self sown ones out
on the
: plot which so far are not showing any signs of blight and are
covered in
: fruit. They are obviously from last years Lesotto (which is F1) but
they do
: seem to be more resistant than the original, perhaps they crossed
with one
: of the others. I will be saving seed!
: Is Blight becoming more infective or are there more strains about?

Lesotto -- did you mean Losetto? I have grown these in containers
in S.E. Essex this year where there have been numerous warnings of a
Full Smith Period on http://www.bligh****ch.co.uk in recent weeks.
Some of the unripe tomatoes have had the characteristic brown-green
mottling but the stems have had none of usual the brown marks/legions
I've seen with blight on other varieties in the past. None of our G/H
plants which are all other varieties have been affected. I'm not sure
whether we've had blight or not!


Yes I did mean Losetto. Our plot is in Thorpe, just down the road from
Holloway, so you must have had blight by now, everyone else has around
here. Even the Losetto in our hanging baskets at home did but not before
they had finished fruiting.
We find the blight resistant tomatoes do eventually get blight but it
does not affect them the same as "normal" tomatoes, they tend to still
crop for some while after getting the dark blotches on the leaves.
Indeed IME if you take off those infected leaves as soon as seen then
the plant survives longer. Losetto seems to be the best at resisting
blight at the moment, our Ferline and Legend went quite quickly this
year yet the Losetto lasted weeks more.
If you also use Bordeaux Mixture then they all survive well, I didn't
this year.
Last years Losetto seeded around our plot because we could not get to
all the fruit under the plants and this year we had them coming up like
weeds, still germinating now, got a good crop off the ones I left to grow.
Interestingly right now we have one tomato that has grown beside one of
our compost bins, between it and our rabbit fence, that plant is now 5ft
tall and covered in green fruit. Looks to be a cross between Losetto
(fruit size) and Ferline (plant size). I'm keeping an eye on it to see
how long it lasts and if I can get seed, from comments I've heard I'm
not the only allotment holder watching it. :-)


In a dahlia forum I belong to there has been a discussion about when to
harvest dahlia seed heads some harvest when they have reached full size
but are still green.
This got me thinking (Yes I do at times0.
Would tomato seed be viable if harvested from full size but green tomatoes?
Then you wouldn't have to hope that your late fruit would ripen.
David @ a damp and windy side of Swansea bay.

"David" wrote ...

Bob Hobden wrote:
Tom Crane wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
: Does anyone else grow these outside? As usual we planted Ferline,
Legend and
: Lesotto (could not get any Fantasio). Unusually all have died of
blight this
: year and the only tomatoes left growing are the self sown ones out
on the
: plot which so far are not showing any signs of blight and are
covered in
: fruit. They are obviously from last years Lesotto (which is F1) but
they do
: seem to be more resistant than the original, perhaps they crossed
with one
: of the others. I will be saving seed!
: Is Blight becoming more infective or are there more strains about?

Lesotto -- did you mean Losetto? I have grown these in containers
in S.E. Essex this year where there have been numerous warnings of a
Full Smith Period on http://www.bligh****ch.co.uk in recent weeks.
Some of the unripe tomatoes have had the characteristic brown-green
mottling but the stems have had none of usual the brown marks/legions
I've seen with blight on other varieties in the past. None of our G/H
plants which are all other varieties have been affected. I'm not sure
whether we've had blight or not!


Yes I did mean Losetto. Our plot is in Thorpe, just down the road from
Holloway, so you must have had blight by now, everyone else has around
here. Even the Losetto in our hanging baskets at home did but not before
they had finished fruiting.
We find the blight resistant tomatoes do eventually get blight but it
does not affect them the same as "normal" tomatoes, they tend to still
crop for some while after getting the dark blotches on the leaves.
Indeed IME if you take off those infected leaves as soon as seen then
the plant survives longer. Losetto seems to be the best at resisting
blight at the moment, our Ferline and Legend went quite quickly this
year yet the Losetto lasted weeks more.
If you also use Bordeaux Mixture then they all survive well, I didn't
this year.
Last years Losetto seeded around our plot because we could not get to
all the fruit under the plants and this year we had them coming up like
weeds, still germinating now, got a good crop off the ones I left to
grow.
Interestingly right now we have one tomato that has grown beside one of
our compost bins, between it and our rabbit fence, that plant is now 5ft
tall and covered in green fruit. Looks to be a cross between Losetto
(fruit size) and Ferline (plant size). I'm keeping an eye on it to see
how long it lasts and if I can get seed, from comments I've heard I'm
not the only allotment holder watching it. :-)


In a dahlia forum I belong to there has been a discussion about when to
harvest dahlia seed heads some harvest when they have reached full size but
are still green.
This got me thinking (Yes I do at times0.
Would tomato seed be viable if harvested from full size but green tomatoes?
Then you wouldn't have to hope that your late fruit would ripen.

If it eventually starts to get blight or frost comes then I will have to go
down that route but at the moment I'll just wait.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

David wrote:

Would tomato seed be viable if harvested from full size but green tomatoes?

I have brought "mature green" tomatoes indoors and let them ripened and
gotten good seed from them. I always use the fermentation method to get
clean tomato seed. Works well with little effort, and I'm very efficient
(aka "lazy").


--
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G