We are looking for a good shredder which would deal with all sorts of garden
"rubbish" - i.e. tree prunings up to 2 or 3" diameter as well as softer
stuff. At the moment everything goes in the council's compost bin but I feel
we could make more use of the material if shredded.

Hubby thinks electric wouldn't be man enough so we are looking at
petrol/diesel but if we go down this route, it would need to be self-start.

Anybody got any recommendations?

Jeanne

In article ,
"Peter & Jeanne" wrote:

We are looking for a good shredder which would deal with all sorts of garden
"rubbish" - i.e. tree prunings up to 2 or 3" diameter as well as softer
stuff. At the moment everything goes in the council's compost bin but I feel
we could make more use of the material if shredded.

Hubby thinks electric wouldn't be man enough so we are looking at
petrol/diesel but if we go down this route, it would need to be self-start.

Anybody got any recommendations?

No recommendations, except to say: "hubby" is absolutely right! I've had
a couple of electric shredders (current one is Bosch, so not rubbish),
and they're useless: noisy, slow, noisy-slow, and slow slow slow! I
never use mine now, and would sell it, if I had the brass-necked cheek
to palm it off on someone!

BTW: the group will be wanting details of how much, and what sort of,
garden you have, in order to assess the size of machine you need.

John

On 13/10/2014 09:41, Another John wrote:
In article ,
"Peter & Jeanne" wrote:

We are looking for a good shredder which would deal with all sorts of garden
"rubbish" - i.e. tree prunings up to 2 or 3" diameter as well as softer
stuff. At the moment everything goes in the council's compost bin but I feel
we could make more use of the material if shredded.

Hubby thinks electric wouldn't be man enough so we are looking at
petrol/diesel but if we go down this route, it would need to be self-start.

Anybody got any recommendations?

No recommendations, except to say: "hubby" is absolutely right! I've had
a couple of electric shredders (current one is Bosch, so not rubbish),
and they're useless: noisy, slow, noisy-slow, and slow slow slow! I
never use mine now, and would sell it, if I had the brass-necked cheek
to palm it off on someone!

BTW: the group will be wanting details of how much, and what sort of,
garden you have, in order to assess the size of machine you need.

John

I switched form electric to petrol, but it kept jamming, no matter what
tricks I tried. So I am now using a Bosch electric, which is certainly
much quieter and rarely jams. I have just spent the last 1 1/2 hrs.
shredding 2 large "Butterfly bushes, no problems.

In article ,
Broadback wrote:
On 13/10/2014 09:41, Another John wrote:
In article ,
"Peter & Jeanne" wrote:

We are looking for a good shredder which would deal with all sorts of garden
"rubbish" - i.e. tree prunings up to 2 or 3" diameter as well as softer
stuff. At the moment everything goes in the council's compost bin but I feel
we could make more use of the material if shredded.

Hubby thinks electric wouldn't be man enough so we are looking at
petrol/diesel but if we go down this route, it would need to be self-start.

Anybody got any recommendations?

No recommendations, except to say: "hubby" is absolutely right! I've had
a couple of electric shredders (current one is Bosch, so not rubbish),
and they're useless: noisy, slow, noisy-slow, and slow slow slow! I
never use mine now, and would sell it, if I had the brass-necked cheek
to palm it off on someone!

BTW: the group will be wanting details of how much, and what sort of,
garden you have, in order to assess the size of machine you need.

I switched form electric to petrol, but it kept jamming, no matter what
tricks I tried. So I am now using a Bosch electric, which is certainly
much quieter and rarely jams. I have just spent the last 1 1/2 hrs.
shredding 2 large "Butterfly bushes, no problems.

The blade type are much noisier than the 'cog' type. When this
has come up before, the consensus is that by far the best is/was
the Bosch 2200 quiet (electric) shredder. It doesn't handle
very leafy or fleshy material, and its limit is 1" of hard wood
or 1.5" of softer material. It's also fairly compact. I have
one, and it is excellent.

To shred larger material, or very large quantities, one needs
a proper horticultural model. The cheap machines that claim to
do the job almost invariably have a lot of problems, but the
ones that don't are both very expensive and usually very large.
But that is all second-hand information.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 13/10/14 10:39, Nick Maclaren wrote:

To shred larger material, or very large quantities, one needs
a proper horticultural model. The cheap machines that claim to
do the job almost invariably have a lot of problems, but the
ones that don't are both very expensive and usually very large.
But that is all second-hand information.

I agree.

When a neighbour with a chainsaw helped me take 6' off a hawthorn hedge,
I hired the biggest chipper the hire shop had - it was one level down
from a tree surgeon's machine, but had powered feed.

I ran it flat out for 5 days and burnt about 6 gallons of petrol.

However now the war has been won, I might be interested in one of the
Bosch cog-crusher types for ad hoc pruning.

The problem I see is the domestic devices all have very tight throats
for safety reasons so sticking hawthorn in would be a non starter - or
any bushy material - but long thick twigs like ash would probably work
very well.

Go along with everything Nick says, especially the limit on dimensions of
stuff you put in considering the OP's question.

We shred a lot of stuff and even though we only have a small garden, 120 x
25, we 'scrounge' our neighbours stuff to 'save him a trip to the dump' :-)

Mike

..................................................
watch this space


"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ...

In article ,
Broadback wrote:
On 13/10/2014 09:41, Another John wrote:
In article ,
"Peter & Jeanne" wrote:

We are looking for a good shredder which would deal with all sorts of
garden
"rubbish" - i.e. tree prunings up to 2 or 3" diameter as well as softer
stuff. At the moment everything goes in the council's compost bin but I
feel
we could make more use of the material if shredded.

Hubby thinks electric wouldn't be man enough so we are looking at
petrol/diesel but if we go down this route, it would need to be
self-start.

Anybody got any recommendations?

No recommendations, except to say: "hubby" is absolutely right! I've had
a couple of electric shredders (current one is Bosch, so not rubbish),
and they're useless: noisy, slow, noisy-slow, and slow slow slow! I
never use mine now, and would sell it, if I had the brass-necked cheek
to palm it off on someone!

BTW: the group will be wanting details of how much, and what sort of,
garden you have, in order to assess the size of machine you need.

I switched form electric to petrol, but it kept jamming, no matter what
tricks I tried. So I am now using a Bosch electric, which is certainly
much quieter and rarely jams. I have just spent the last 1 1/2 hrs.
shredding 2 large "Butterfly bushes, no problems.

The blade type are much noisier than the 'cog' type. When this
has come up before, the consensus is that by far the best is/was
the Bosch 2200 quiet (electric) shredder. It doesn't handle
very leafy or fleshy material, and its limit is 1" of hard wood
or 1.5" of softer material. It's also fairly compact. I have
one, and it is excellent.

To shred larger material, or very large quantities, one needs
a proper horticultural model. The cheap machines that claim to
do the job almost invariably have a lot of problems, but the
ones that don't are both very expensive and usually very large.
But that is all second-hand information.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
says...

We are looking for a good shredder which would deal with all sorts of garden
"rubbish" - i.e. tree prunings up to 2 or 3" diameter

3" diameter probably needs a commercial chipper rather than a
shredder.A domestic garden doesn't justify investing in a chipper IME.

If you have acres you probably have room for a bonfire instead. Or to
make a big pile of waste awaiting a contractor or plant hire.

If you really really want chip or shredded wood waste (to use on
paths etc), IMO it might make more economic sense to hire a commercial
size machine, or contractor once a year (even share with neighbours).

Janet.

"Peter & Jeanne" wrote in message
...
We are looking for a good shredder which would deal with all sorts of
garden "rubbish" - i.e. tree prunings up to 2 or 3" diameter as well as
softer stuff. At the moment everything goes in the council's compost bin
but I feel we could make more use of the material if shredded.

Hubby thinks electric wouldn't be man enough so we are looking at
petrol/diesel but if we go down this route, it would need to be
self-start.

Anybody got any recommendations?

Jeanne


Which mag's Best Buy is:

Bosch AXT 25 TC


mark

On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 14:59:19 +0100, mark wrote:

"Peter & Jeanne" wrote in message
...

Anybody got any recommendations?

Jeanne


Which mag's Best Buy is:

Bosch AXT 25 TC

That's what I've got, it's a good machine which handles quite thick
branches. It does clog if you put a lot of green leaves through, and
it's not really very fast when there is a lot of pruned material to put
through.



--
Gardening in Lower Normandy

Good morning,

the thread produced some answers already and I can now throw in my own
real experience.

On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:23:45 +0100, Peter & Jeanne
wrote:

Hubby thinks electric wouldn't be man enough so we are looking at
petrol/diesel but if we go down this route, it would need to be self-start.

“man enough� can mean “not strong enough�. In this case I object. The
trouble with all electric equipment [is are] *) the cables. Of course,
you can easily find electric shredders for little money which are worth
even less. These toys are not what I refer to.

Unfortunately, even the more expensive machines are too diverse and the
price does not give an indication on the real value.

I have compared shredders for a long time and as I am currently unable
to make a 600€ investment for a decent petrol shredder, bought an
electric model which serves me well since 2012. It cuts branches up to
4cm of diameter and depending on the tree or brush, even a little more
than that.

Unfortunately, all the labels have gone off, and I do not remember the
brand-name. My decision was, in addition, based on the way that the
machine had been advertised... pratically not at all. But it stood in
the shop beside another one, qualified to do the same job for a little
more money. The promises were so many that I refused to give in and
bought demonstratively the other one.

Sidenote. Where my wife and I need to shred smaller branches and
brushwood at a distance from our buildings, we use our lawn-mower.
People are sometimes afraid to risk damage to their mower, but for no
reason, as long as it has a metal casing. The material that we gather
that way serves the very same purposes as the output of the shredder and
the lawn mower gives us the independence that the electric shredder
lacks.

Cheerio,

Michael

*) is/are - make your choice. I am losing my English.

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Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France
GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15]
sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15]

Peter & Jeanne wrote:

We are looking for a good shredder which would deal with all sorts of garden
"rubbish" - i.e. tree prunings up to 2 or 3" diameter as well as softer
stuff. At the moment everything goes in the council's compost bin but I feel
we could make more use of the material if shredded.

Hubby thinks electric wouldn't be man enough so we are looking at
petrol/diesel but if we go down this route, it would need to be self-start.

Anybody got any recommendations?

That sounds more like estate management than a domestic garden.

For some time I have had, and been very pleased with, an Alko
SP5000, cog type. It has recently needed the capacitor replacing,
but that was reasonably easy and inexpensive.

It won't quite reach the diameter you mention, but how much of
that do you actually have to cope with?

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

Now you've got me thinking........

The trouble with all electric equipment is the cables.
The trouble with all electric equipment is, the cables.
The trouble is, with all electric equipment, the cables.

No it has to be 'is'.

The trouble with all electric equipment are the cables.

'are' just doesn't work.

--
David

In message , David B
writes
Now you've got me thinking........

The trouble with all electric equipment is the cables.
The trouble with all electric equipment is, the cables.
The trouble is, with all electric equipment, the cables.

No it has to be 'is'.

The trouble with all electric equipment are the cables.
'are' just doesn't work.

You are correct. The subject of the sentence is "trouble" which is
singular. Therefore the verb is in the singular.

David

--
David Rance writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

On 15/10/2014 10:36, Michael Uplawski wrote:
Sidenote. Where my wife and I need to shred smaller branches and
brushwood at a distance from our buildings, we use our lawn-mower.
People are sometimes afraid to risk damage to their mower, but for no
reason, as long as it has a metal casing. The material that we gather
that way serves the very same purposes as the output of the shredder and
the lawn mower gives us the independence that the electric shredder
lacks.

On that sort of line, we sometimes deal with small-ish stuff by piling
it up and attacking it with an old electric hedge trimmer which is kept
for such purposes. Otherwise, its the mainly trusty Bosch 2200

--
regards andy

On 15/10/2014 10:36, Michael Uplawski wrote:
I am losing my English

Like India, it is probably down the back of the sofa

--

regards andy