"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:

Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to them.

Plusnet use giganews (same as BT currently) but they don't provide binary
groups.


Does any UK ISP now? Most don't even provide access to Usenet any more

"Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access,
turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and
suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99
per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap.

My ISP dropped Usenet years ago so I went to News individual.net which
would
be cheap at 5 times the price (10 euros/year) They provide a good
service:
they filter out almost all spam and there is always a real person on the
end
of the email if you need help.
However, I understand Plusnet still support Usenet, you might consider
swapping your ISP to them. I've considered it myself to get free Usenet
access, but tbh, it's too much trouble to save 10 euros.
I recommend NIN and it's not difficult to sign up with them.
https://news.individual.net/

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Isn't Plusnet also BT?

Are they? I hope not

Thanks for the recommendation :-)

Grenou
you will never regret using NIN.

Christina Websell wrote:

"Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote:

Isn't Plusnet also BT?

Are they? I hope not

They have been for years, thankfully you'd never tell if you didn't know ...

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
Christina Websell wrote:

"Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote:

Isn't Plusnet also BT?

Are they? I hope not

They have been for years, thankfully you'd never tell if you didn't know
...

so it will be interesting if Plusnet now drop Usenet.

Not to worry, I have NIN!

Christina Websell wrote:

it will be interesting if Plusnet now drop Usenet.

Their friendly rep (Bob Pullen) on usenet says not ...

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
Christina Websell wrote:

it will be interesting if Plusnet now drop Usenet.

Their friendly rep (Bob Pullen) on usenet says not ...

I think they will.

On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:37:47 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to
them.

Plusnet use giganews (same as BT currently) but they don't provide

binary groups.

Does any UK ISP now? Most don't even provide access to Usenet any more

Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s)
for mail, news, "home page", WHY? The ISP just provides a connection
into the Internet. Everyone can pick and choose the services they
require from other providers.

Getting a domain name and cheap/free/included mail service is
probably what everyone should do. You are then no longer tied (via an
ISP based email address) to your ISP.

--
Cheers
Dave.

[Access to Usenet]

I am accessing usenet, posting on and reading newsgroups since around
1996. Which does not mean a lot, as you can do an arbitrary amount of
bungling during your “35 years� of experience in any job. But I have
made observations and even got to understanding “technology�.

The (declared) ability and (declared) determination of any service to
render your experience with their use of a *well-defined technology*
more comfortable should not influence your decision to pay them or not.
The technology in this case is usenet or the uses of the nntp-protocol,
more exactly (anyone still on uucp ? Thanks. Thought so.)

I am using several open and free news-services (branching to an
arbitrary number of news-servers) simultaneously:

open-news-network
netfront
aioe
solani
eternal-september

Anything which is not open-news-network just adds content in case that
the previous cannot. If they work and provide me with news-articles, any
one of these services does the *same job*.

The fact that some more or less eagerly respond to complaints about
their users “spamming� or “trolling� decides about their position in my
list but not more.

If there still are trollposts to handle, filtering is done by me alone
as I deem nobody else capable to decide in my place what I consider spam
or trolling. I won't explain all of this in detail, as, in addition, I
am not familiar with Windows, these days and wishing to control your own
machine appears to become unpopular with today's Internet-users.

I only say, that the simple use of free and open news-services creates
no problem, nor does it AFAIS and a priori impose constraints for my
access to nntp-newsgroups.

My former internet access-providers gave me Usenet-access and all have
stopped to do so. All of these services were flawed in one way or other.
I appreciate, that nowadays, the best Usenet-services are offered by
people who really *want* to do the job rather than add Usenet as a
gimmick to their produce.

I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry.

;-) Michael (Kraut-Frog)

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:49:39 +0100,
Martin wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:03:49 +0100, Martin wrote:

The current version of Agent and Forte's news server are the current
best and cheapest way of accessing binary newsgroups.

Maybe I should have said easiest way of downloading from binary groups
involving the least effort.

Thanks for clarifying. I was about to ask what you wanted to say with
that. ;-)

I only add to your last statement “, under Windows, and if you are
accustomed to such software.�

Michael
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:57:50 +0000 (GMT),
Dave Liquorice wrote:
Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s)
for mail, news, "home page", WHY? The ISP just provides a connection
into the Internet. Everyone can pick and choose the services they
require from other providers.

So far I am becking this.

Getting a domain name and cheap/free/included mail service is
probably what everyone should do. You are then no longer tied (via an
ISP based email address) to your ISP.

But now you do not talk about usenet and would anyway be in trouble
getting usenet-access into the context... ;-)
Try and prove me wrong... I would be pleased and follow any of your
advice on the spot.

Michael
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In article o.uk,
says...

Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s)
for mail, news, "home page", WHY?


You made me think RIP zetnet and its excellent newsreader (iirc you
were one of the zetnuts)

Janet

"Michael Uplawski" wrote in message
ki.eu...

--I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry.

;-) Michael (Kraut-Frog)

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Heh heh, that's an excellent listing (saved for further consultation).
I am building up quite a dossier on this ☺

Grenou

Location: West Sussex (mother Frog-father Cheesehead) !

Normandy, Upper or Lower, is great ☺

"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
--
you will never regret using NIN.


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Thanks for the information Christina :-)

Grenou

"Martin" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:02:23 -0000, "Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote:

Heh heh, that's an excellent listing (saved for further consultation).
I am building up quite a dossier on this ?

Grenou

Location: West Sussex (mother Frog-father Cheesehead) !

Not the original GWB cheese eating surrender monkey? :-)


Normandy, Upper or Lower, is great ?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland


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Goodness, did I add those question marks? Hmm..

Nope, not a monkey but a KaasKop, a 'pet' name for the Dutch, or it used to
be when I lived there (centuries ago) ;-)

Grenou

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:04:50 +0100,
Martin wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:09:51 +0100, Michael Uplawski
wrote:

The current version of Agent and Forte's news server are the current
best and cheapest way of accessing binary newsgroups.
(...)
People use Agent with Linux and Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

My grandma made the best potato-salad.
.... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

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