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Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October:
http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg -- Jeff |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:44:42 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:
Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg Nice one, Jeff! -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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"Jeff Layman" wrote in message ... Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg -- Jeff -- How wonderful! Did you stop to collect some seeds? :-) Grenou |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:52:00 +0000, Grenou wrote:
How wonderful! Hi Grenou, Nice to see you posting, but just a quick note: you're posting below the signature separator "-- " which causes all kinds of problems up to and including many people won't see your post at all. Bottom posting is good, just make sure you delete the other person's signature first. Thanks! -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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On 30/10/2014 08:44, Jeff Layman wrote:
Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg Truly glorious. That looks like Sambucus 'Sutherland's Gold' supporting it. Lovely combination. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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Oh my .. (as my American online friends, in newsgroups and forums, say).
Maybe I'd better give up, I am obviously not 'doing it' right. Thankfully my gardening skills are ok, so not too much is lost ☺ Bye bye. Grenou -- "Emery Davis" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:52:00 +0000, Grenou wrote: How wonderful! Hi Grenou, Nice to see you posting, but just a quick note: you're posting below the signature separator "-- " which causes all kinds of problems up to and including many people won't see your post at all. Bottom posting is good, just make sure you delete the other person's signature first. Thanks! -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:45:47 +0000, Grenou wrote:
Oh my .. (as my American online friends, in newsgroups and forums, say). Maybe I'd better give up, I am obviously not 'doing it' right. Thankfully my gardening skills are ok, so not too much is lost ☺ Bye bye. Well I'm certainly not trying to encourage you to go away, on the contrary, I'd like it if everyone could see what you're posting! So, don't disappear on my account. :) -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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"Grenou" wrote
Oh my .. (as my American online friends, in newsgroups and forums, say). Maybe I'd better give up, I am obviously not 'doing it' right. Thankfully my gardening skills are ok, so not too much is lost ☺ Let me explain, it's not just a case of you "not doing it right", Emery was not being pedantic, he was trying to be helpful. Some newsreaders strip out everything below the signature separators so those using those types of Newsreaders will never see your posts. That is what the separators are for, for easy removal (automatic removal) of unnecessary stuff. More explanation here..... http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On 30/10/2014 13:14, Spider wrote:
On 30/10/2014 08:44, Jeff Layman wrote: Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg Truly glorious. That looks like Sambucus 'Sutherland's Gold' supporting it. Lovely combination. I can see why you think it's that Sambucus, but it is actually Jasminum officinale 'Aureum'. The funny thing about the Ipomoea is that it germinated well from seed (in May, IIRC), but after planting out a couple of dozen plants most just sat there and then disappeared (eaten; died?). One grew feebly at the start, then got going, but didn't start flowering until mid August. The plant in the picture also grew slowly, then put on a spurt in September, twining all over the place, but there was no sign of flower buds until a couple of weeks ago, when it became smothered in them. But it still refused to flower until a few days ago. Most odd for something usually considered a rather rampant climber. I hope it will continue to flower until it gets hit by frost. -- Jeff |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
... "Grenou" wrote Oh my .. (as my American online friends, in newsgroups and forums, say). Maybe I'd better give up, I am obviously not 'doing it' right. Thankfully my gardening skills are ok, so not too much is lost ? Let me explain, it's not just a case of you "not doing it right", Emery was not being pedantic, he was trying to be helpful. Some newsreaders strip out everything below the signature separators so those using those types of Newsreaders will never see your posts. That is what the separators are for, for easy removal (automatic removal) of unnecessary stuff. More explanation here..... http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php .... and you will note that when I reply, it will have your post with double chevrons, Bob's post with single chevrons and my reply (at the bottom) with no chevrons. All the signatures have been removed except mine which should be deleted by yourself or your newsreader when you reply. HTH -- David |
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On 30/10/2014 09:52, Grenou wrote:
"Jeff Layman" wrote in ... Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg How wonderful! Did you stop to collect some seeds? Not yet, and I probably won't bother. Packets of Ipomoea tricolor 'Heavenly Blue' are usually easily obtainable and very cheap. -- Jeff |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Grenou" wrote Oh my .. (as my American online friends, in newsgroups and forums, say). Maybe I'd better give up, I am obviously not 'doing it' right. Thankfully my gardening skills are ok, so not too much is lost ☺ Let me explain, it's not just a case of you "not doing it right", Emery was not being pedantic, he was trying to be helpful. Some newsreaders strip out everything below the signature separators so those using those types of Newsreaders will never see your posts. That is what the separators are for, for easy removal (automatic removal) of unnecessary stuff. More explanation here..... http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php I also just noticed you use Windows Live Mail to come here, just like me. As a Newsgroup reader and poster program it's pants, it does not treat posts in accordance with convention/rules, it's clunky, and Microsoft say they will not fix it. To get it to work even a bit properly, although not automatically, I had to download and use AutoHotKey and WlmQuoteFix which together do go some way to correct Microsoft's program. see... http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/ and that is the site I downloaded both from years ago so should be OK. You can insert a signature into it so that when you click the Win+9 key combination your reply is formatted correctly, including the chevrons, and a signature is automatically inserted at the bottom so all you have to do is write the reply. Works for me. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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The alternative is to ignore the 'clique' and do what I have done since
those who feel they "OWN" the forum and complained that I was not obeying their commands and ........ top post. If you haven't been following the thread and don't know what has been said before, then read the thread. It all makes sense to me. Are you less brainy than me? If "I" can work out what is and has been said, why can't you? Mike .................................................. By the way, this is a great place for adverts if you post continuously ;-) "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Bob Hobden" wrote "Grenou" wrote Oh my .. (as my American online friends, in newsgroups and forums, say). Maybe I'd better give up, I am obviously not 'doing it' right. Thankfully my gardening skills are ok, so not too much is lost ☺ Let me explain, it's not just a case of you "not doing it right", Emery was not being pedantic, he was trying to be helpful. Some newsreaders strip out everything below the signature separators so those using those types of Newsreaders will never see your posts. That is what the separators are for, for easy removal (automatic removal) of unnecessary stuff. More explanation here..... http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php I also just noticed you use Windows Live Mail to come here, just like me. As a Newsgroup reader and poster program it's pants, it does not treat posts in accordance with convention/rules, it's clunky, and Microsoft say they will not fix it. To get it to work even a bit properly, although not automatically, I had to download and use AutoHotKey and WlmQuoteFix which together do go some way to correct Microsoft's program. see... http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/ and that is the site I downloaded both from years ago so should be OK. You can insert a signature into it so that when you click the Win+9 key combination your reply is formatted correctly, including the chevrons, and a signature is automatically inserted at the bottom so all you have to do is write the reply. Works for me. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"'Mike'" wrote
The alternative is to ignore the 'clique' and do what I have done since those who feel they "OWN" the forum and complained that I was not obeying their commands and ........ top post. If you haven't been following the thread and don't know what has been said before, then read the thread. It all makes sense to me. Are you less brainy than me? If "I" can work out what is and has been said, why can't you? Mike, for once in your life try to learn something, read this... http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php and you will find why people find your type of posting a pain in the butt and react to you the way they do. It is not a clique, as you say, it is the worldwide convention, the rules for Usenet that have been followed for decades to make life easier for everyone. If you can't understand and follow rules and conventions how were you ever in the Navy or an Electrician? -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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The poster you all had a go at will now see just what this forum is like.
Get on with talking and advertising GARDENING, it is what most of you are best at, some better than others. One thing, those who don't post here but just read and comment elsewhere, all agree, this forum is a jolly good laugh sometimes ................. keep it up. Just one bit of advice which I have given before, if you don't like my posting and wish to stay within the clique, ........... don't open my posts if they send you towards a heart attack. Mike .................................................. Adverts to follow "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote The alternative is to ignore the 'clique' and do what I have done since those who feel they "OWN" the forum and complained that I was not obeying their commands and ........ top post. If you haven't been following the thread and don't know what has been said before, then read the thread. It all makes sense to me. Are you less brainy than me? If "I" can work out what is and has been said, why can't you? Mike, for once in your life try to learn something, read this... http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php and you will find why people find your type of posting a pain in the butt and react to you the way they do. It is not a clique, as you say, it is the worldwide convention, the rules for Usenet that have been followed for decades to make life easier for everyone. If you can't understand and follow rules and conventions how were you ever in the Navy or an Electrician? -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:32:24 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:
I hope it will continue to flower until it gets hit by frost. Every reason to think it will, although it will get a bit weedy at the end. We used to do these every year, I'm not sure why we stopped. BTW I've collected seed and grown it, it came out standard purple. YMMV, of course. -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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On 30/10/2014 15:32, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 30/10/2014 13:14, Spider wrote: On 30/10/2014 08:44, Jeff Layman wrote: Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg Truly glorious. That looks like Sambucus 'Sutherland's Gold' supporting it. Lovely combination. I can see why you think it's that Sambucus, but it is actually Jasminum officinale 'Aureum'. Oh, Yes! I can see it is now. Very attractive. I'll have to look out for that next year. The funny thing about the Ipomoea is that it germinated well from seed (in May, IIRC), but after planting out a couple of dozen plants most just sat there and then disappeared (eaten; died?). One grew feebly at the start, then got going, but didn't start flowering until mid August. The plant in the picture also grew slowly, then put on a spurt in September, twining all over the place, but there was no sign of flower buds until a couple of weeks ago, when it became smothered in them. But it still refused to flower until a few days ago. Most odd for something usually considered a rather rampant climber. I have read that it's a lot easier to germinate than it is to grow on. I have a friend who seems to find it all too easy and she grows it every year. I must try it one year soon and see if I can master the trick to growing it. I hope it will continue to flower until it gets hit by frost. Yes, good luck with that. You may be lucky; we've had a real Indian Summer-cum-Autumn this year. I've still got an Agapanthus in flower. It tends to be later than most, but I'm still surprised to see two flower spikes on it. It's Agapanthus 'Charlotte' for those who hope to extend the flowering season. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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Spider wrote: The funny thing about the Ipomoea is that it germinated well from seed (in May, IIRC), but after planting out a couple of dozen plants most just sat there and then disappeared (eaten; died?). One grew feebly at the start, then got going, but didn't start flowering until mid August. The plant in the picture also grew slowly, then put on a spurt in September, twining all over the place, but there was no sign of flower buds until a couple of weeks ago, when it became smothered in them. But it still refused to flower until a few days ago. Most odd for something usually considered a rather rampant climber. I have read that it's a lot easier to germinate than it is to grow on. I have a friend who seems to find it all too easy and she grows it every year. I must try it one year soon and see if I can master the trick to growing it. It's quite easy if you have somewhere to start it indoors, though establishing it depends (surprise, surprise) on the weather. I soak the seeds for (say) 8 hours and germinate them on damp kitchen roll under cling film. I then plant them in pots and keep them in the conservatory (or a sunny window ledge) until they start to climb. They they go out. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"'Mike'" wrote
The poster you all had a go at will now see just what this forum is like. Get on with talking and advertising GARDENING, it is what most of you are best at, some better than others. One thing, those who don't post here but just read and comment elsewhere, all agree, this forum is a jolly good laugh sometimes ................. keep it up. Just one bit of advice which I have given before, if you don't like my posting and wish to stay within the clique, ........... don't open my posts if they send you towards a heart attack. No one "had a go at the poster" they just pointed out that his posts won't be seen by some because he was not following convention (which he probably didn't even know existed). It was meant to be helpful for the future, and it's also what happened to me decades ago when I first stepped into Usenet. If you think that anyone that takes your hand and guides you on the correct path is "having a go" you have a problem. Not a case of not liking your posts Mike it's just that they are so often strange and invariably difficult to read as you don't follow the rules and conventions of Usenet. In your case that is deliberate because you believe it's a clique against you personally when, in fact, it's just the rules of the game. Another sign you have a problem. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On 30/10/2014 23:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , Spider wrote: I have read that it's a lot easier to germinate than it is to grow on. I have a friend who seems to find it all too easy and she grows it every year. I must try it one year soon and see if I can master the trick to growing it. It's quite easy if you have somewhere to start it indoors, though establishing it depends (surprise, surprise) on the weather. I think that is very true. AFAIR when I planted them out at around 10 - 15 cm high the weather was a bit on the cool side, and must have given them quite a check (they had germinated very well in an unheated greenhouse). I soak the seeds for (say) 8 hours and germinate them on damp kitchen roll under cling film. I then plant them in pots and keep them in the conservatory (or a sunny window ledge) until they start to climb. They they go out. Maybe I will wait a bit longer until they are higher - perhaps 30 - 40 cm. But I'll have to germinate them in bigger pots to do that, as they already have a decent root system at 15 cm. For such a supposedly easy plant to grow, you don't see them that much in other gardens. Maybe they aren't quite so reliable in a cool spring, and that puts people off. -- Jeff |
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On 30/10/2014 23:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , Spider wrote: The funny thing about the Ipomoea is that it germinated well from seed (in May, IIRC), but after planting out a couple of dozen plants most just sat there and then disappeared (eaten; died?). One grew feebly at the start, then got going, but didn't start flowering until mid August. The plant in the picture also grew slowly, then put on a spurt in September, twining all over the place, but there was no sign of flower buds until a couple of weeks ago, when it became smothered in them. But it still refused to flower until a few days ago. Most odd for something usually considered a rather rampant climber. I have read that it's a lot easier to germinate than it is to grow on. I have a friend who seems to find it all too easy and she grows it every year. I must try it one year soon and see if I can master the trick to growing it. It's quite easy if you have somewhere to start it indoors, though establishing it depends (surprise, surprise) on the weather. I soak the seeds for (say) 8 hours and germinate them on damp kitchen roll under cling film. I then plant them in pots and keep them in the conservatory (or a sunny window ledge) until they start to climb. They they go out. Regards, Nick Maclaren. That's useful, Nick. I'll make a note of that and try it next year. Thank you. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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Jeff Layman wrote: I soak the seeds for (say) 8 hours and germinate them on damp kitchen roll under cling film. I then plant them in pots and keep them in the conservatory (or a sunny window ledge) until they start to climb. They they go out. Maybe I will wait a bit longer until they are higher - perhaps 30 - 40 cm. But I'll have to germinate them in bigger pots to do that, as they already have a decent root system at 15 cm. My experience is that they don't mind a bit of root restriction, and I find that 2-2.5" square pots are fine. But it is also easy to start them in those and repot. I agree that 30-40cm is a good height, not least because it gives them a chance against being munched by marauding molluscs! For such a supposedly easy plant to grow, you don't see them that much in other gardens. Maybe they aren't quite so reliable in a cool spring, and that puts people off. Quite probably. But they can be planted late, too. It seems to be the cumulative amount of warmth they need, and they don't care much how fast it is delivered! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
... On 30/10/2014 09:52, Grenou wrote: "Jeff Layman" wrote in ... Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg How wonderful! Did you stop to collect some seeds? Not yet, and I probably won't bother. Packets of Ipomoea tricolor 'Heavenly Blue' are usually easily obtainable and very cheap. Indeed they are but you'd be taking a risk eating the bought ones! :o) -- David |
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On 30/10/2014 09:26, Emery Davis wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:44:42 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote: Not something usually seen on a murky day in very late October: http://i59.tinypic.com/dxn79w.jpg Nice one, Jeff! Test so ignore |
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