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I have a panel fence between me and my neighbour.
We had ivy on both sides of the fence before we replaced it with new panels. I
appear to have successfully killed the ivy on my side (thanks to suggestions in
this group).

However, my neighbour's has not all been killed off - and new shoots with
leaves are appearing through the fencing on my side.

I have successfully killed all the shoots which come through (Roundup) - but I
wondered if my continued application to new shoots will eventually kill off the
ivy totally?
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On 12/02/2015 13:58, Judith in England wrote:


I have a panel fence between me and my neighbour.
We had ivy on both sides of the fence before we replaced it with new panels. I
appear to have successfully killed the ivy on my side (thanks to suggestions in
this group).

However, my neighbour's has not all been killed off - and new shoots with
leaves are appearing through the fencing on my side.

I have successfully killed all the shoots which come through (Roundup) - but I
wondered if my continued application to new shoots will eventually kill off the
ivy totally?


Shouldn't think so.

I am honestly surprised that you are able to kill it at all with
glyphosate. Ivy and holly *seedlings* survive application of glyphosate
quite happily (at least when you are clearing scrub). I'd have expected
the full adult plant to be even more resistant not less.

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On 12/02/2015 13:58, Judith in England wrote:


I have a panel fence between me and my neighbour.
We had ivy on both sides of the fence before we replaced it with new panels. I
appear to have successfully killed the ivy on my side (thanks to suggestions in
this group).

However, my neighbour's has not all been killed off - and new shoots with
leaves are appearing through the fencing on my side.

I have successfully killed all the shoots which come through (Roundup) - but I
wondered if my continued application to new shoots will eventually kill off the
ivy totally?

I have had success with a compund call Root Out. It was originally sold
as a stump killer but thanks to the EU it is now only available as a
compost accellerator. I successfully removed ivy from a wall by cutting
the stems and using it as a stump killer on them while killing the ivy
rooted to the wall by spraying. I obtaind mine from a loacl allotment
association (on the strict understanding that it would only be used a a
compost accellerator :-) ) I have since found it on line at
http://www.garden-products.info/rootout.htm .

Malcolm Race
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In article , Malcolm Race
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I have had success with a compund call Root Out. It was originally sold
as a stump killer but thanks to the EU it is now only available as a
compost accellerator. ...


Curiosity here ... how can a stump and all-round killer (from what you
say) be sold instead as a compost accelerator? I wouldn't put (for
example) creosote into my heap!

John
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On 12/02/15 13:58, Judith in England wrote:


I have a panel fence between me and my neighbour.
We had ivy on both sides of the fence before we replaced it with new panels. I
appear to have successfully killed the ivy on my side (thanks to suggestions in
this group).

However, my neighbour's has not all been killed off - and new shoots with
leaves are appearing through the fencing on my side.

I have successfully killed all the shoots which come through (Roundup) - but I
wondered if my continued application to new shoots will eventually kill off the
ivy totally?


Probably, but it will take time. I sprayed about 20 metres of fence
covered with ivy. with glyphosate That was repeated twice at fortnightly
intervals. It seemed to kill off the ivy after a few months, but I've
just noticed some coming through again. I'll repeat the triple-spaying
when the weather is a lot warmer - probably mid to late May. If
necessary, I'll repeat it again next year. Make sure that the new leaves
really are thoroughly wetted on both sides, as it is likely that the
glyphosate will be absorbed better though those than older leaves.

Out of interest, I tried using a glyphosate spray made with an emulsion
of white spirit in water, and one using isopropanol in water on a couple
of fence panels to see if that helped get through the tough (waxy?)
leaves of the ivy. It didn't, appear to but it didn't inhibit the
efficacy either.

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Jeff


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On 12/02/2015 15:36, Another John wrote:
In article , Malcolm Race
wrote:

I have had success with a compund call Root Out. It was originally sold
as a stump killer but thanks to the EU it is now only available as a
compost accellerator. ...


Curiosity here ... how can a stump and all-round killer (from what you
say) be sold instead as a compost accelerator? I wouldn't put (for
example) creosote into my heap!

John

You may speculate but if you follow the link you will see the
justification for this.

Malcolm
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Chris Hogg wrote:

I have had success with a compund call Root Out. It was originally sold
as a stump killer but thanks to the EU it is now only available as a
compost accellerator. ...


Curiosity here ... how can a stump and all-round killer (from what you
say) be sold instead as a compost accelerator? I wouldn't put (for
example) creosote into my heap!

It's rich in nitrogen when it decomposes, hence accelerating compost
breakdown. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_sulfamate


Ahhh! Thanks.

John
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:18:19 +0000, Martin Brown
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On 12/02/2015 13:58, Judith in England wrote:


I have a panel fence between me and my neighbour.
We had ivy on both sides of the fence before we replaced it with new panels. I
appear to have successfully killed the ivy on my side (thanks to suggestions in
this group).

However, my neighbour's has not all been killed off - and new shoots with
leaves are appearing through the fencing on my side.

I have successfully killed all the shoots which come through (Roundup) - but I
wondered if my continued application to new shoots will eventually kill off the
ivy totally?


Shouldn't think so.

I am honestly surprised that you are able to kill it at all with
glyphosate. Ivy and holly *seedlings* survive application of glyphosate
quite happily (at least when you are clearing scrub). I'd have expected
the full adult plant to be even more resistant not less.



I "crush" the leaves before I apply it: I read that this lets them absorb the
weed-killer - and it has worked every time - but only for about dozen
individual stem which have poked through
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