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Ralph Holmes 04-10-2015 08:00 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
I'm trying to eradicate a collection of nettles and other weeds from my summer bulbs bed using Roundup Gel.
How much gel do I need to use?
- a dab on one leaf?
- cover all the leaves?
- a smear over a few leaves?
The instructions on the container seem enthusiastic but are not very precise.
Anybody know?
Cheers
Ralph

David Hill 04-10-2015 11:05 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On 04/10/2015 20:00, Ralph Holmes wrote:
I'm trying to eradicate a collection of nettles and other weeds from my
summer bulbs bed using Roundup Gel.
How much gel do I need to use?
- a dab on one leaf?
- cover all the leaves?
- a smear over a few leaves?
The instructions on the container seem enthusiastic but are not very
precise.
Anybody know?
Cheers
Ralph





Why not contact them and ask them how much to use
http://www.roundup-garden.com/contact

Ralph Holmes 05-10-2015 09:13 AM

Thanks for that David. I have done that, as a matter of course, but I thought someone on GardenBanter might just know the answer.
Cheers
Ralph

Martin Brown 05-10-2015 10:32 AM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On 04/10/2015 20:00, Ralph Holmes wrote:

I'm trying to eradicate a collection of nettles and other weeds from my
summer bulbs bed using Roundup Gel.


Nettles are quite shallow rooted and can be easily pulled up with
leather gloves and a fork to loosen the soil.

How much gel do I need to use?
- a dab on one leaf?
- cover all the leaves?
- a smear over a few leaves?
The instructions on the container seem enthusiastic but are not very
precise.
Anybody know?


A few growing point leaves ought to do it but it is already a bit too
late for this year as most deciduous plants have already stopped growing
and will not be badly affected by glyphosate any more. They have to be
in active rapid growth for it to work well (and takes about two weeks).
It is now too cold for that at least where I live.

Save the stuff for next spring and remove the weeds manually for now.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Stephen Wolstenholme[_5_] 05-10-2015 01:38 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 21:00:24 +0200, Ralph Holmes
wrote:


I'm trying to eradicate a collection of nettles and other weeds from my
summer bulbs bed using Roundup Gel.
How much gel do I need to use?
- a dab on one leaf?
- cover all the leaves?
- a smear over a few leaves?
The instructions on the container seem enthusiastic but are not very
precise.
Anybody know?
Cheers
Ralph


I find pulling weeds up is just as effective as weed killer. It takes
a few years before they give up trying.

Steve

--
Neural Network Software for Windows http://www.npsnn.com


Martin Brown 05-10-2015 01:46 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On 05/10/2015 13:38, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 21:00:24 +0200, Ralph Holmes
wrote:


I'm trying to eradicate a collection of nettles and other weeds from my
summer bulbs bed using Roundup Gel.
How much gel do I need to use?
- a dab on one leaf?
- cover all the leaves?
- a smear over a few leaves?
The instructions on the container seem enthusiastic but are not very
precise.
Anybody know?
Cheers
Ralph


I find pulling weeds up is just as effective as weed killer. It takes
a few years before they give up trying.


The fastest way is a combined physical and chemical attack.

Depending on quite how pernicious the weed is weaken it with weedkiller
and then dig up or dig up and then spot weed any new growth the moment
it surfaces. Ground elder needs the former treatment to zap it.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Stephen Wolstenholme[_5_] 05-10-2015 01:53 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:46:12 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 05/10/2015 13:38, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 21:00:24 +0200, Ralph Holmes
wrote:


I'm trying to eradicate a collection of nettles and other weeds from my
summer bulbs bed using Roundup Gel.
How much gel do I need to use?
- a dab on one leaf?
- cover all the leaves?
- a smear over a few leaves?
The instructions on the container seem enthusiastic but are not very
precise.
Anybody know?
Cheers
Ralph


I find pulling weeds up is just as effective as weed killer. It takes
a few years before they give up trying.


The fastest way is a combined physical and chemical attack.

Depending on quite how pernicious the weed is weaken it with weedkiller
and then dig up or dig up and then spot weed any new growth the moment
it surfaces. Ground elder needs the former treatment to zap it.


I've never even seen Ground elder.

If it invaded my garden I would probably eat it as it's supposed to be
tasty!

Steve

--
Neural Network Software for Windows http://www.npsnn.com


Janet 05-10-2015 02:15 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
In article ,
says...

Thanks for that David. I have done that, as a matter of course, but I
thought someone on GardenBanter might just know the answer.


Maybe they will, good luck with that :-)

None of the responses are from gardenbanter,they are all from usenet
group uk.rec.gardening.

Janet

Martin Brown 05-10-2015 03:07 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On 05/10/2015 13:53, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:46:12 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 05/10/2015 13:38, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:


I find pulling weeds up is just as effective as weed killer. It takes
a few years before they give up trying.


The fastest way is a combined physical and chemical attack.

Depending on quite how pernicious the weed is weaken it with weedkiller
and then dig up or dig up and then spot weed any new growth the moment
it surfaces. Ground elder needs the former treatment to zap it.


I've never even seen Ground elder.

If it invaded my garden I would probably eat it as it's supposed to be
tasty!


It is supposed to be a remedy for gout. That is why the Romans grew it.

Even a 1/4" piece of the thick white root missed will be a new plant.

A neighbour rotivated a plot with it in and increased his problem with
the stuff by an order of magnitude.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Vir Campestris 05-10-2015 09:35 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On 05/10/2015 09:13, Ralph Holmes wrote:
Thanks for that David. I have done that, as a matter of course, but I
thought someone on GardenBanter might just know the answer.


Quite unlikely. It's far more possible that somebody on the usenet group
uk.rec.gardening might, and gardenbanter copies all the posts from here.

I don't use Roundup - maybe the cancer scares are true, but mainly I
don't think keeping the weeds down in my garden justifies it - but AIUI
you need to use it when the weeds are actively growing. Which probably
means next spring.

Andy

Vir Campestris 05-10-2015 09:37 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On 05/10/2015 15:07, Martin Brown wrote:

A neighbour rotivated a plot with it in and increased his problem with
the stuff by an order of magnitude.


We have it. Persistent weeding and it seems to be slowly giving up. I
must try eating some one day. But not some with Roundup!

Andy

Martin Brown 05-10-2015 10:18 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On 05/10/2015 21:37, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 05/10/2015 15:07, Martin Brown wrote:

A neighbour rotivated a plot with it in and increased his problem with
the stuff by an order of magnitude.


We have it. Persistent weeding and it seems to be slowly giving up. I
must try eating some one day. But not some with Roundup!


You have to be persistent but it will give up the ghost more easily than
bindweed. Never allow it to grow a leaf that isn't hit by weedkiller on
emergence and get every last piece of root you can. I have know someone
do it in a single season. Took me three years.

Paradoxically 2x over dilution of glyphosate so that you get a very
slower kill seems to work better taking down more root/rhizome through
having more time to translocate. No point in using weedkiller at this
time of year though the stuff is going dormant now.

I have an adjacent field laced with the stuff next door.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Martin Brown 06-10-2015 09:53 AM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
On 05/10/2015 21:35, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 05/10/2015 09:13, Ralph Holmes wrote:
Thanks for that David. I have done that, as a matter of course, but I
thought someone on GardenBanter might just know the answer.


Quite unlikely. It's far more possible that somebody on the usenet group
uk.rec.gardening might, and gardenbanter copies all the posts from here.

I don't use Roundup - maybe the cancer scares are true, but mainly I
don't think keeping the weeds down in my garden justifies it - but AIUI
you need to use it when the weeds are actively growing. Which probably
means next spring.


I don't use RoundUp either. I wouldn't willingly give Monsanto a penny.

However, I will use whichever generic glyphosate formulation contains
the most active ingredient per unit cost. It is a remarkable weedkiller.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Ralph Holmes 06-10-2015 03:09 PM

Thanks for the vast amount of advice, but no one has even addressed my question, let alone answered it.

Is compulsive advice giving treatable?

Janet 06-10-2015 03:45 PM

Roundup Gel - how much to use
 
In article ,
says...

Thanks for the vast amount of advice, but no one has even addressed my
question, let alone answered it.


That is untrue.

Is compulsive advice giving treatable?


You seem to have confused this newsgroup with an advisory service
provided by gardenbanter.

uk rec.gardening is not part of gardenbanter, has nothing whatever to
do with gardenbanter.

It's an usenet garden discussion group where participants talk about
gardening. There is no obligation to provide advice, answers or
solutions.

If you took the trouble to read the FAQ and the "sticky" provided by
gardenbanter on your screen, you would know that. Gardenbanter requests
you to read both, before posting.

Janet


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