Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption appearing.

Two images of the affected fruit are linked below.
The tree is bang up against an egremont russet apple tree but that
doesn't seem to have any issues.

Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve the problem if it's possible?

http://a360.co/2bzLrBJ
http://a360.co/2bzMzoT

(I just tested a link and had to zoom out to see full image!)


Thanks


Phil

On 17/08/2016 09:35, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption appearing.

Sounds a bit like the effects of irregular watering or drought to me.
Most of mine have a few similar marks on and any that slipt will exhude
resinous syrup and attract wasps but they mostly confine themsleves to
damaged fruit. The birds will put holes in any and all fruit.

Two images of the affected fruit are linked below.
The tree is bang up against an egremont russet apple tree but that
doesn't seem to have any issues.

Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve the problem if it's
possible?

I think the tree was (very) short of water a couple of weeks back.

Regards,
Martin Brown

On 17/08/2016 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:35, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption appearing.

Sounds a bit like the effects of irregular watering or drought to me.
Most of mine have a few similar marks on and any that slipt will exhude
resinous syrup and attract wasps but they mostly confine themsleves to
damaged fruit. The birds will put holes in any and all fruit.

Two images of the affected fruit are linked below.
The tree is bang up against an egremont russet apple tree but that
doesn't seem to have any issues.

Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve the problem if it's
possible?

I think the tree was (very) short of water a couple of weeks back.

Regards,
Martin Brown


Thanks Martin

If I start heavy watering weekly, will the fruit recover, the ones that
aren't already marked/split I mean?

Phil

On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:20:31 +0100, thescullster wrote:

On 17/08/2016 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:35, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption
appearing.

Sounds a bit like the effects of irregular watering or drought to me.
Most of mine have a few similar marks on and any that slipt will exhude
resinous syrup and attract wasps but they mostly confine themsleves to
damaged fruit. The birds will put holes in any and all fruit.

Two images of the affected fruit are linked below.
The tree is bang up against an egremont russet apple tree but that
doesn't seem to have any issues.

Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve the problem if it's
possible?

I think the tree was (very) short of water a couple of weeks back.

Regards,
Martin Brown


Thanks Martin

If I start heavy watering weekly, will the fruit recover, the ones that
aren't already marked/split I mean?

Phil

I think you might have to ease into it slowly, with more frequent light
watering.

If the skins are hard then you are likely to split them if you give too
much water in one go.

I seem to remember doing this with tomatoes - of course their skins are
far more fragile.

Cheers

Dave R



--
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

On 17/08/2016 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:35, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption appearing.

Sounds a bit like the effects of irregular watering or drought to me.
Most of mine have a few similar marks on and any that slipt will exhude
resinous syrup and attract wasps but they mostly confine themsleves to
damaged fruit. The birds will put holes in any and all fruit.

Two images of the affected fruit are linked below.
The tree is bang up against an egremont russet apple tree but that
doesn't seem to have any issues.

Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve the problem if it's
possible?

I think the tree was (very) short of water a couple of weeks back.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Do I see traces of woolly aphids on some of the stems?

On 17/08/2016 11:20, thescullster wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:35, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption appearing.

Sounds a bit like the effects of irregular watering or drought to me.
Most of mine have a few similar marks on and any that slipt will exhude
resinous syrup and attract wasps but they mostly confine themsleves to
damaged fruit. The birds will put holes in any and all fruit.

Two images of the affected fruit are linked below.
The tree is bang up against an egremont russet apple tree but that
doesn't seem to have any issues.

Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve the problem if it's
possible?

I think the tree was (very) short of water a couple of weeks back.


Thanks Martin

If I start heavy watering weekly, will the fruit recover, the ones that
aren't already marked/split I mean?

Splitting is an indication that the skins have hardened to resist water
loss and I suspect the fruit will split if you water too much now. All
academic since it is supposed to throw it down tomorrow.

Next year make sure it doesn't get too dry during sunny spells and the
fruit will continue to swell to full size. They will still be OK to eat
this year - just not as big and sweet as they might have been.

Imperfect ones can go in jam.

Regards,
Martin Brown

On 17/08/2016 15:17, David Hill wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:35, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption appearing.

Sounds a bit like the effects of irregular watering or drought to me.
Most of mine have a few similar marks on and any that slipt will exhude
resinous syrup and attract wasps but they mostly confine themsleves to
damaged fruit. The birds will put holes in any and all fruit.

I think the tree was (very) short of water a couple of weeks back.

Do I see traces of woolly aphids on some of the stems?

I don't think so, but something is obviously nibbling leaves.

But at least with apple trees I have never known woolly aphid do
anything more than make the stems look unsightly even at plague
proportions. My parents fruit trees suffered badly this way in recent
years and would be in a terrible state for the pest and still fruit OK.

I hit them with systemic when I got the chance and meths weekly this
year and apart from the scars the trees are pretty much clean now.

Regards,
Martin Brown

On 17/08/2016 11:20, thescullster wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:35, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption appearing.

Sounds a bit like the effects of irregular watering or drought to me.
Most of mine have a few similar marks on and any that slipt will exhude
resinous syrup and attract wasps but they mostly confine themsleves to
damaged fruit. The birds will put holes in any and all fruit.

Two images of the affected fruit are linked below.
The tree is bang up against an egremont russet apple tree but that
doesn't seem to have any issues.

Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve the problem if it's
possible?

I think the tree was (very) short of water a couple of weeks back.

Regards,
Martin Brown


Thanks Martin

If I start heavy watering weekly, will the fruit recover, the ones that
aren't already marked/split I mean?

Phil

Also worth checking some of the fallen fruit for signs of plum moth the
exiting maggots often cause resin

--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
National collections of Clematis viticella & Lapageria rosea

On 18/08/2016 09:02, Charlie Pridham wrote:
On 17/08/2016 11:20, thescullster wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 17/08/2016 09:35, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

I am fearing the worst with my victorias this year!

The fruit have got to about half size and stopped swelling.
Looking closer this weekend I see that some have skins that are
discoloured. Also, one or two have like a resinous eruption appearing.

Sounds a bit like the effects of irregular watering or drought to me.
Most of mine have a few similar marks on and any that slipt will exhude
resinous syrup and attract wasps but they mostly confine themsleves to
damaged fruit. The birds will put holes in any and all fruit.

Two images of the affected fruit are linked below.
The tree is bang up against an egremont russet apple tree but that
doesn't seem to have any issues.

Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve the problem if it's
possible?

I think the tree was (very) short of water a couple of weeks back.

Regards,
Martin Brown


Thanks Martin

If I start heavy watering weekly, will the fruit recover, the ones that
aren't already marked/split I mean?

Phil

Also worth checking some of the fallen fruit for signs of plum moth the
exiting maggots often cause resin


Thanks guys

Is there anything to be gained by thinning the fruit out to provide
space for swelling if they want to?

Phil