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I was tying down my daffodils in the troughs in the front
garden over the weekend, partly because I usually do and partly
to show the tulips in the pots better.

A man passing by stopped and said "Oh, I've not seen anyone tie
down daffodils like that for years" (or words to that effect).
Made me think:

a) Is it worth doing, except for the second reason above?
b) Does it help the bulb?
c) Looking around the gardens here, why does no one else do it!


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Roger Tonkin wrote:
I was tying down my daffodils in the troughs in the front
garden over the weekend, partly because I usually do and partly
to show the tulips in the pots better.

A man passing by stopped and said "Oh, I've not seen anyone tie
down daffodils like that for years" (or words to that effect).
Made me think:

a) Is it worth doing, except for the second reason above?
b) Does it help the bulb?
c) Looking around the gardens here, why does no one else do it!


My understanding is no, marginally and because they don't know about it.
It is a VERY old-fashioned activity!


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On 07/05/18 17:36, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I was tying down my daffodils in the troughs in the front
garden over the weekend, partly because I usually do and partly
to show the tulips in the pots better.

A man passing by stopped and said "Oh, I've not seen anyone tie
down daffodils like that for years" (or words to that effect).
Made me think:

a) Is it worth doing, except for the second reason above?
b) Does it help the bulb?
c) Looking around the gardens here, why does no one else do it!


As long as the daffodil leaves are straight and green, they are
supplying food to the bulb for next year's plant - including the flower.
If you bend and knot them and cut off the food supply, you are risking
smaller bulbs and inferior flowers.

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On Mon, 7 May 2018 22:55:35 +0100, Jeff Layman
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On 07/05/18 17:36, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I was tying down my daffodils in the troughs in the front
garden over the weekend, partly because I usually do and partly
to show the tulips in the pots better.

A man passing by stopped and said "Oh, I've not seen anyone tie
down daffodils like that for years" (or words to that effect).
Made me think:

a) Is it worth doing, except for the second reason above?
b) Does it help the bulb?
c) Looking around the gardens here, why does no one else do it!


As long as the daffodil leaves are straight and green, they are
supplying food to the bulb for next year's plant - including the flower.
If you bend and knot them and cut off the food supply, you are risking
smaller bulbs and inferior flowers.


My late mother, when she was still able to garden, always knotted her
daffs after they'd flowered. She also said that you can cut off the
foliage six weeks after the flowers have gone, because by that time
the bulbs will have got all the nourishment they need for next year.
Whether either was any more than an old wives' tale, I don't know, but
her daffs always put on a good show every spring.


Many years ago the Daffodil Research Unit in Cornwall carried out tests
to see if therewas any effect in cutting off the tops of daffodils soon after
flowering. they concluded that bulbs treated in this was actually flourished
as the bulb had already made the food for the following year at flowering
time and that leaving the tops on to die down could lead to the
introduction of virus diseases into the bulb. I cut mine down soon after
flowering every year and they are flourishing and spreading.

Phil.



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On 08/05/2018 05:29, Chris Hogg wrote:


Whether either was any more than an old wives' tale, I don't know,


How many of these come from Victorian gardening books where
i) Knowledge of plant husbandry was basic
ii) the lord of the manner had a head gardener and 50 assistant
gardeners to perform these unnecessary tasks.


but
her daffs always put on a good show every spring.


So do a lot of council planted road side verge displays where they just
leave them for 6/8 weeks before mowing.

Its much like pruning. If you have the time prune the way the books tell
you. If you don't have the time use a hedge trimmer!

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On Tue, 8 May 2018 05:29:06 Chris Hogg wrote:

On Mon, 7 May 2018 22:55:35 +0100, Jeff Layman
wrote:

On 07/05/18 17:36, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I was tying down my daffodils in the troughs in the front
garden over the weekend, partly because I usually do and partly
to show the tulips in the pots better.

A man passing by stopped and said "Oh, I've not seen anyone tie
down daffodils like that for years" (or words to that effect).
Made me think:

a) Is it worth doing, except for the second reason above?
b) Does it help the bulb?
c) Looking around the gardens here, why does no one else do it!


As long as the daffodil leaves are straight and green, they are
supplying food to the bulb for next year's plant - including the flower.
If you bend and knot them and cut off the food supply, you are risking
smaller bulbs and inferior flowers.


My late mother, when she was still able to garden, always knotted her
daffs after they'd flowered.


I used to do this on the advice of my in-laws who were market gardeners.
The reason given for knotting was that it looked neater!

David

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On 07/05/2018 17:36, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I was tying down my daffodils in the troughs in the front
garden over the weekend, partly because I usually do and partly
to show the tulips in the pots better.

A man passing by stopped and said "Oh, I've not seen anyone tie
down daffodils like that for years" (or words to that effect).
Made me think:

a) Is it worth doing, except for the second reason above?
b) Does it help the bulb?
c) Looking around the gardens here, why does no one else do it!


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