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Roger Tonkin[_2_] 17-05-2018 10:08 PM

Spacing vegetables
 
Now having very much smaller veggie plot, I'm in a quandary.

I have a number of veg plants to plant and am told the space
between rows (and plants), BUT I'll only have one row of each
veg, so if I have for example Peas @ 18", Sprouts @ 30",
Cabbage @ 24" and Beans 9" how should I approach spacing the
different rows. I have my own ideas, but am just wondering how
others do it?


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Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

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Nick Maclaren[_5_] 18-05-2018 09:39 AM

Spacing vegetables
 
In article ,
Roger Tonkin wrote:
Now having very much smaller veggie plot, I'm in a quandary.

I have a number of veg plants to plant and am told the space
between rows (and plants), BUT I'll only have one row of each
veg, so if I have for example Peas @ 18", Sprouts @ 30",
Cabbage @ 24" and Beans 9" how should I approach spacing the
different rows. I have my own ideas, but am just wondering how
others do it?


I plant in multiple rows, e.g. double rows of carrots, 9" apart,
and triple rows of broad beans, 9" between two rows and one in
between, like this:

x x x x x ---
|
x x x x | 9"
|
x x x x x ---

Also, I grow climbing beans (Phaseolus) and cucumber, and have
grown climbing peas (but can't get climbing snap ones this year).
Actually, my bean cage is 24'x12'x6' high, and I string it across
the top as well as the sides, and grow squashed underneath. You
can do that on a less ambitious scale, too :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Roger Tonkin[_2_] 18-05-2018 10:29 AM

Spacing vegetables
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
Roger Tonkin wrote:
Now having very much smaller veggie plot, I'm in a quandary.

I have a number of veg plants to plant and am told the space
between rows (and plants), BUT I'll only have one row of each
veg, so if I have for example Peas @ 18", Sprouts @ 30",
Cabbage @ 24" and Beans 9" how should I approach spacing the
different rows. I have my own ideas, but am just wondering how
others do it?


I plant in multiple rows, e.g. double rows of carrots, 9" apart,
and triple rows of broad beans, 9" between two rows and one in
between, like this:

x x x x x ---
|
x x x x | 9"
|
x x x x x ---

Also, I grow climbing beans (Phaseolus) and cucumber, and have
grown climbing peas (but can't get climbing snap ones this year).
Actually, my bean cage is 24'x12'x6' high, and I string it across
the top as well as the sides, and grow squashed underneath. You
can do that on a less ambitious scale, too :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Yes I used to do similar, but the current question is what
spacing should I give between a row of peas (18" between rows)
and a row of sprouts next to them (30" between rows)!

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Nick Maclaren[_5_] 18-05-2018 04:15 PM

Spacing vegetables
 
In article ,
Roger Tonkin wrote:

Yes I used to do similar, but the current question is what
spacing should I give between a row of peas (18" between rows)
and a row of sprouts next to them (30" between rows)!


As much as you need for access, for weeding, staking, picking etc.
Sprouts need 30" only if very vigorous - and, anyway, they don't
really get to full size before peas eaten green are gone. I use
18" regardless, but need to be careful what I put next to what,
to avoid one 'row' overpowering its neighbours.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

[email protected] 21-05-2018 03:06 PM

Spacing vegetables
 
On Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:08:36 UTC+1, Roger Tonkin wrote:
Now having very much smaller veggie plot, I'm in a quandary.

I have a number of veg plants to plant and am told the space
between rows (and plants), BUT I'll only have one row of each
veg, so if I have for example Peas @ 18", Sprouts @ 30",
Cabbage @ 24" and Beans 9" how should I approach spacing the
different rows. I have my own ideas, but am just wondering how
others do it?


--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

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OUP published an interesting book a few years ago, sadly now out of print. It suggested that the spacing on seed packets are based on industrial farming practices. In a smaller plot closer spacing can give a higher overall yield despite less per plant. I have followed this advice successfully for many years.
Jonathan

Jim S 21-05-2018 08:17 PM

Spacing vegetables
 
On Mon, 21 May 2018 07:06:27 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:08:36 UTC+1, Roger Tonkin wrote:
Now having very much smaller veggie plot, I'm in a quandary.

I have a number of veg plants to plant and am told the space
between rows (and plants), BUT I'll only have one row of each
veg, so if I have for example Peas @ 18", Sprouts @ 30",
Cabbage @ 24" and Beans 9" how should I approach spacing the
different rows. I have my own ideas, but am just wondering how
others do it?


--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

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OUP published an interesting book a few years ago, sadly now out of print. It suggested that the spacing on seed packets are based on industrial farming practices. In a smaller plot closer spacing can give a higher overall yield despite less per plant. I have followed this advice successfully for many years.
Jonathan


I had those books (parts I & II). I thought they were RHS, but no matter.
There was lots of trials which seemed to show that if you planted closely
the size was smaller, but the total yield was greater.
They also went on to talk about, not planting small crops on the shaded
side of eg brassicas, interplanting carrots with spring onions, planting
potatoes under polythene.
It all means much less now that f1 hybrids all crop on the same day :(
The more I write, the more I regret losing them.
Race you to Amazon.
--
Jim S

Jim S 22-05-2018 12:08 AM

Spacing vegetables
 
On Mon, 21 May 2018 20:17:29 +0100, Jim S wrote:

On Mon, 21 May 2018 07:06:27 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:08:36 UTC+1, Roger Tonkin wrote:
Now having very much smaller veggie plot, I'm in a quandary.

I have a number of veg plants to plant and am told the space
between rows (and plants), BUT I'll only have one row of each
veg, so if I have for example Peas @ 18", Sprouts @ 30",
Cabbage @ 24" and Beans 9" how should I approach spacing the
different rows. I have my own ideas, but am just wondering how
others do it?


--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

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OUP published an interesting book a few years ago, sadly now out of print. It suggested that the spacing on seed packets are based on industrial farming practices. In a smaller plot closer spacing can give a higher overall yield despite less per plant. I have followed this advice successfully for many years.
Jonathan


I had those books (parts I & II). I thought they were RHS, but no matter.
There was lots of trials which seemed to show that if you planted closely
the size was smaller, but the total yield was greater.
They also went on to talk about, not planting small crops on the shaded
side of eg brassicas, interplanting carrots with spring onions, planting
potatoes under polythene.
It all means much less now that f1 hybrids all crop on the same day :(
The more I write, the more I regret losing them.
Race you to Amazon.


It's here Know & Grow Vegetables by Salter & Bleasdale - even a Kindle
vesion http://tinyurl.com/y9xxe3kl
--
Jim S


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