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Roger Tonkin[_2_] 29-12-2018 11:49 AM

Sprouts
 
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

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Broadback[_3_] 29-12-2018 12:54 PM

Sprouts
 
On 29/12/2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

Have you solidified the ground into which they are planted, for example
by stamping around the plants?

Jim S 29-12-2018 05:04 PM

Sprouts
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:54:15 +0000, Broadback wrote:

On 29/12/2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

Have you solidified the ground into which they are planted, for example
by stamping around the plants?


Agreed. Stake them with canes if they waft in the wind.
--
Jim S

Bob Hobden[_6_] 29-12-2018 05:06 PM

Sprouts
 
On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?

--
Regards
Bob Hobden

Roger Tonkin[_2_] 30-12-2018 04:42 PM

Sprouts
 
In article ,
says...

On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?


Soil is a mixture of a typical brown soil, with so reddish more
clay like bits put in by the landscape gardener as topsoil! Or
it could be the other way round.

No idea of the variety, had a disaster in the summer when the
storage box blew open in a gale and all the seed packets got
wet - so I chucked the seeds on the compost and the packets in
the recycling bin.

Sorry


--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

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Bob Hobden[_6_] 30-12-2018 05:07 PM

Sprouts
 
On 30 Dec 2018 16:42, Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?


Soil is a mixture of a typical brown soil, with so reddish more
clay like bits put in by the landscape gardener as topsoil! Or
it could be the other way round.

No idea of the variety, had a disaster in the summer when the
storage box blew open in a gale and all the seed packets got
wet - so I chucked the seeds on the compost and the packets in
the recycling bin.

Sorry

Possibly too much nitrogen and soil too loose as others have said. Our
clay/silt packs down to concrete with rain and sun so I never have to
concern myself with treading the young plants in, it happens anyway.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden

Ian Jackson 30-12-2018 09:56 PM

Sprouts
 
In message , Bob Hobden
writes
On 30 Dec 2018 16:42, Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?


Soil is a mixture of a typical brown soil, with so reddish more
clay like bits put in by the landscape gardener as topsoil! Or
it could be the other way round.

No idea of the variety, had a disaster in the summer when the
storage box blew open in a gale and all the seed packets got
wet - so I chucked the seeds on the compost and the packets in
the recycling bin.

Sorry

Possibly too much nitrogen and soil too loose as others have said. Our
clay/silt packs down to concrete with rain and sun so I never have to
concern myself with treading the young plants in, it happens anyway.

If it's too much nitrogen, would the occasional 'feed' with Epsom Salts
help?
--
Ian

Jim S 30-12-2018 11:29 PM

Sprouts
 
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 21:56:05 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Bob Hobden
writes
On 30 Dec 2018 16:42, Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?

Soil is a mixture of a typical brown soil, with so reddish more
clay like bits put in by the landscape gardener as topsoil! Or
it could be the other way round.

No idea of the variety, had a disaster in the summer when the
storage box blew open in a gale and all the seed packets got
wet - so I chucked the seeds on the compost and the packets in
the recycling bin.

Sorry

Possibly too much nitrogen and soil too loose as others have said. Our
clay/silt packs down to concrete with rain and sun so I never have to
concern myself with treading the young plants in, it happens anyway.

If it's too much nitrogen, would the occasional 'feed' with Epsom Salts
help?


Can't resist. Epsom salts after Brussel Sprouts eems a recipe for disaster
:-)
--
Jim S

Ian Jackson 31-12-2018 12:04 AM

Sprouts
 
In message , Jim S
writes
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 21:56:05 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Bob Hobden
writes
On 30 Dec 2018 16:42, Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?

Soil is a mixture of a typical brown soil, with so reddish more
clay like bits put in by the landscape gardener as topsoil! Or
it could be the other way round.

No idea of the variety, had a disaster in the summer when the
storage box blew open in a gale and all the seed packets got
wet - so I chucked the seeds on the compost and the packets in
the recycling bin.

Sorry

Possibly too much nitrogen and soil too loose as others have said. Our
clay/silt packs down to concrete with rain and sun so I never have to
concern myself with treading the young plants in, it happens anyway.

If it's too much nitrogen, would the occasional 'feed' with Epsom Salts
help?


Can't resist. Epsom salts after Brussel Sprouts eems a recipe for disaster
:-)


True. I do love sprouts - but over the past week, I've had more than an
'ample sufficiency' of them - and there's still about half a dozen to
finish off. Not only do they keep you regular, they also keep you
frequent.
--
Ian

David Rance[_3_] 31-12-2018 09:32 AM

Sprouts
 
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 00:04:27 Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Jim S
writes
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 21:56:05 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Bob Hobden
writes
On 30 Dec 2018 16:42, Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?

Soil is a mixture of a typical brown soil, with so reddish more
clay like bits put in by the landscape gardener as topsoil! Or
it could be the other way round.

No idea of the variety, had a disaster in the summer when the
storage box blew open in a gale and all the seed packets got
wet - so I chucked the seeds on the compost and the packets in
the recycling bin.

Sorry

Possibly too much nitrogen and soil too loose as others have said. Our
clay/silt packs down to concrete with rain and sun so I never have to
concern myself with treading the young plants in, it happens anyway.

If it's too much nitrogen, would the occasional 'feed' with Epsom Salts
help?


Can't resist. Epsom salts after Brussel Sprouts eems a recipe for disaster
:-)


True. I do love sprouts - but over the past week, I've had more than an
'ample sufficiency' of them - and there's still about half a dozen to
finish off. Not only do they keep you regular, they also keep you
frequent.


Run a close second by Jerusalem artichokes!

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

Jim S 31-12-2018 10:20 AM

Sprouts
 
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 00:04:27 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Jim S
writes
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 21:56:05 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Bob Hobden
writes
On 30 Dec 2018 16:42, Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?

Soil is a mixture of a typical brown soil, with so reddish more
clay like bits put in by the landscape gardener as topsoil! Or
it could be the other way round.

No idea of the variety, had a disaster in the summer when the
storage box blew open in a gale and all the seed packets got
wet - so I chucked the seeds on the compost and the packets in
the recycling bin.

Sorry

Possibly too much nitrogen and soil too loose as others have said. Our
clay/silt packs down to concrete with rain and sun so I never have to
concern myself with treading the young plants in, it happens anyway.

If it's too much nitrogen, would the occasional 'feed' with Epsom Salts
help?


Can't resist. Epsom salts after Brussel Sprouts seems a recipe for disaster
:-)


True. I do love sprouts - but over the past week, I've had more than an
'ample sufficiency' of them - and there's still about half a dozen to
finish off. Not only do they keep you regular, they also keep you
frequent.


Never share a bed with a vegetarian.
--
Jim S

Roger Tonkin[_2_] 31-12-2018 12:06 PM

Sprouts
 
In article ,
says...

On 30 Dec 2018 16:42, Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 29 Dec 2018 11:49, Roger Tonkin wrote:
I've grown some sprouts this year for the first time since
moving house, and the results very disappointing.

Plants are quite tall, and as the sprouts develop, they do not
form a tight sprout, but burst open and form just tiny leaves.

I know they are not in an idea bed, it is narrow and surrounded
on three sides by fences or walls and facing east only gets sun
until about 10.00am. I'm not sure about the soil, it has not
been used for a number of years, being I think a lawn of sorts.

Just wondering why they seem to grow as normal until the
important time!

What's the soil type? Variety?


Soil is a mixture of a typical brown soil, with so reddish more
clay like bits put in by the landscape gardener as topsoil! Or
it could be the other way round.

No idea of the variety, had a disaster in the summer when the
storage box blew open in a gale and all the seed packets got
wet - so I chucked the seeds on the compost and the packets in
the recycling bin.

Sorry

Possibly too much nitrogen and soil too loose as others have said. Our
clay/silt packs down to concrete with rain and sun so I never have to
concern myself with treading the young plants in, it happens anyway.


Thanks to all.

Must admin, they are more than a bit wobly, but then the wind
swirls around tere. Never really thought that it was just
loosely rooted plants that caused the problem.

--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

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