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Thinking of getting either a plum or damson tree for a corner
of the garden. They have some in our local garden centre in
smallish pots, presumably ready for planting (although there is
no signs of fruit on them!).

Looking at nurseries on-line they offer the trees for late
November delivery (when dormant was the comment on one).

Whist I would like to support my local GC, what is the most
sensible option?

a) Buy a pot and plant out now
b) Buy a pot and keep until dormant, then plant out
c) Get from dedicated tree nursery


Thanks


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On 11/09/2019 15:43, Roger Tonkin wrote:
Thinking of getting either a plum or damson tree for a corner
of the garden. They have some in our local garden centre in
smallish pots, presumably ready for planting (although there is
no signs of fruit on them!).

Looking at nurseries on-line they offer the trees for late
November delivery (when dormant was the comment on one).

Whist I would like to support my local GC, what is the most
sensible option?

a) Buy a pot and plant out now
b) Buy a pot and keep until dormant, then plant out
c) Get from dedicated tree nursery


Thanks


C
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:43:02 +0100, Roger Tonkin
wrote:

Thinking of getting either a plum or damson tree for a corner
of the garden. They have some in our local garden centre in
smallish pots, presumably ready for planting (although there is
no signs of fruit on them!).

Looking at nurseries on-line they offer the trees for late
November delivery (when dormant was the comment on one).

Whist I would like to support my local GC, what is the most
sensible option?

a) Buy a pot and plant out now
b) Buy a pot and keep until dormant, then plant out
c) Get from dedicated tree nursery


Not into fruit trees, but my thoughts are if it were bare-rooted, I'd
wait until it was dormant, but the general benefit claimed for potted
plants is that they can be planted any time. Anyhow, dormancy can't be
far away now.

When selecting your variety of damson or plum, you need to know if
it's self-fertile, or if it needs a companion for pollination. If it
needs a companion and you don't provide one, or there isn't an
appropriate one nearby in a neighbour's garden, you won't get much
fruit. https://tinyurl.com/y6tdx6c3

Water it well in the pot before planting. Best to stand the tree, in
its pot, in a bucket of water for an hour or two before planting.

Dig in some organic matter and slow-release fertiliser into the area
where you're going to plant the tree, to give it a good start. Hoof &
horn or bone meal should do.

Don't dig the hole too deep. The top of the existing root-ball should
be level with the soil surface.

Use a pressure-treated stake https://mcveighparker.com/timber and a
good tree-tie. Drive a stake into the ground alongside where you're
going to dig the hole, before planting the tree. Whether you use a
short stake driven in at an angle, or a taller stake driven in
vertically, is moot. I have no view.

If the pot is small, you may need to tease out the roots if they've
gone round and round against the walls of the pot and in the bottom.

Firm it in well after planting, and give it a good watering.


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On 11 Sep 2019 15:43, Roger Tonkin wrote:
Thinking of getting either a plum or damson tree for a corner
of the garden. They have some in our local garden centre in
smallish pots, presumably ready for planting (although there is
no signs of fruit on them!).

Looking at nurseries on-line they offer the trees for late
November delivery (when dormant was the comment on one).

Whist I would like to support my local GC, what is the most
sensible option?

a) Buy a pot and plant out now
b) Buy a pot and keep until dormant, then plant out
c) Get from dedicated tree nursery



MY heart says a dedicated fruit tree nursery but I have a cautionary
tale there. Bought 4 cherry trees, wanted and asked for them all on
Gisella 5 rootstock which is the most dwarfing.

Bought one from Brogdale which is like Jacks beanstalk and plainly not
on Gisella 5, it will have to come out.
Bought one from another fruit tree specialist nursery in Hampshire,
seems to be diseased, canker I think.
Bought two from RHS Wisley, perfect.



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On 11/09/2019 16:31, David Hill wrote:
On 11/09/2019 15:43, Roger Tonkin wrote:
Thinking of getting either a plum or damson tree for a corner
of the garden. They have some in our local garden centre in
smallish pots, presumably ready for planting (although there is
no signs of fruit on them!).


I am a bit wary of pot grown fruit trees in garden centres if they have
become pot bound they might be plantable at any time of year but they
are less likely to prosper in the medium term than a cheaper bare root
nursery grown tree planted in the late autumn.

Looking at nurseries on-line they offer the trees for late
November delivery (when dormant was the comment on one).

Whist I would like to support my local GC, what is the most
sensible option?

a) Buy a pot and plant out now
b) Buy a pot and keep until dormant, then plant out
c) Get from dedicated tree nursery


Thanks


C


+1

I went with Deacons as they had the varieties and root stock I wanted.

https://www.deaconsnurseryfruits.co.uk/

And helpful advice on self fertile varieties/family trees/root stocks.

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