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Niel A. Farrow 11-05-2003 08:47 PM

Help with pre weeding new lawn
 
Hi, I've spent many weeks preparing my lawn for reseeding. For the last 3
weeks I've left it to settle. I've treated it 3 times with glycophosphate
based weed killers but today I tackled the patches of couch grass which
have been undisturbed by the weedkiller. When I forked these patches
there was a dense mass of white roots, and these roots also extend to areas
of the garden where the couch grass doesn't look to be (on the surface).

The garden is 30' x 70' and I'd like to avoid taking the roots out by
hand (my backs almost recovered from the prepping) and disturbing the
settled soil, so:

1. is there a weed killer for couch grass - I've Googled but not found
any specific brands etc.

2. am I being too particular - the grass is quite dense but only in
largish patches. not the whole lawn.

3. any other prepping advice.

Thank you,

Neil

The Devil's Advocate 11-05-2003 10:35 PM

Help with pre weeding new lawn
 
There used to be but it's on the list mow I think. Shame because it workd a
treat. Wonder why they allow smoking but not our little bit of chemical lol

Niel A. Farrow wrote:
: Hi, I've spent many weeks preparing my lawn for reseeding. For the
: last 3 weeks I've left it to settle. I've treated it 3 times with
: glycophosphate based weed killers but today I tackled the patches of
: couch grass which have been undisturbed by the weedkiller. When I
: forked these patches
: there was a dense mass of white roots, and these roots also extend to
: areas of the garden where the couch grass doesn't look to be (on the
: surface).
:
: The garden is 30' x 70' and I'd like to avoid taking the roots out by
: hand (my backs almost recovered from the prepping) and disturbing the
: settled soil, so:
:
: 1. is there a weed killer for couch grass - I've Googled but not found
: any specific brands etc.
:
: 2. am I being too particular - the grass is quite dense but only in
: largish patches. not the whole lawn.
:
: 3. any other prepping advice.
:
: Thank you,
:
: Neil



olrac 11-05-2003 11:45 PM

Help with pre weeding new lawn
 
sounds like your soil is crap!

olrac


"Niel A. Farrow" wrote in message
...
Hi, I've spent many weeks preparing my lawn for reseeding. For the last 3
weeks I've left it to settle. I've treated it 3 times with glycophosphate
based weed killers but today I tackled the patches of couch grass which
have been undisturbed by the weedkiller. When I forked these patches
there was a dense mass of white roots, and these roots also extend to

areas
of the garden where the couch grass doesn't look to be (on the surface).

The garden is 30' x 70' and I'd like to avoid taking the roots out by
hand (my backs almost recovered from the prepping) and disturbing the
settled soil, so:

1. is there a weed killer for couch grass - I've Googled but not found
any specific brands etc.

2. am I being too particular - the grass is quite dense but only in
largish patches. not the whole lawn.

3. any other prepping advice.

Thank you,

Neil




The Devil's Advocate 12-05-2003 02:12 PM

Help with pre weeding new lawn
 
There used to be but it's on the list mow I think. Shame because it workd a
treat. Wonder why they allow smoking but not our little bit of chemical lol

Niel A. Farrow wrote:
: Hi, I've spent many weeks preparing my lawn for reseeding. For the
: last 3 weeks I've left it to settle. I've treated it 3 times with
: glycophosphate based weed killers but today I tackled the patches of
: couch grass which have been undisturbed by the weedkiller. When I
: forked these patches
: there was a dense mass of white roots, and these roots also extend to
: areas of the garden where the couch grass doesn't look to be (on the
: surface).
:
: The garden is 30' x 70' and I'd like to avoid taking the roots out by
: hand (my backs almost recovered from the prepping) and disturbing the
: settled soil, so:
:
: 1. is there a weed killer for couch grass - I've Googled but not found
: any specific brands etc.
:
: 2. am I being too particular - the grass is quite dense but only in
: largish patches. not the whole lawn.
:
: 3. any other prepping advice.
:
: Thank you,
:
: Neil



olrac 12-05-2003 02:13 PM

Help with pre weeding new lawn
 
sounds like your soil is crap!

olrac


"Niel A. Farrow" wrote in message
...
Hi, I've spent many weeks preparing my lawn for reseeding. For the last 3
weeks I've left it to settle. I've treated it 3 times with glycophosphate
based weed killers but today I tackled the patches of couch grass which
have been undisturbed by the weedkiller. When I forked these patches
there was a dense mass of white roots, and these roots also extend to

areas
of the garden where the couch grass doesn't look to be (on the surface).

The garden is 30' x 70' and I'd like to avoid taking the roots out by
hand (my backs almost recovered from the prepping) and disturbing the
settled soil, so:

1. is there a weed killer for couch grass - I've Googled but not found
any specific brands etc.

2. am I being too particular - the grass is quite dense but only in
largish patches. not the whole lawn.

3. any other prepping advice.

Thank you,

Neil




Rodger Whitlock 12-05-2003 03:08 PM

Help with pre weeding new lawn
 
On Sun, 11 May 2003 19:37:41 +0000 (UTC), Niel A. Farrow wrote:

I've spent many weeks preparing my lawn for reseeding.


3. any other prepping advice.



In the Good Old Days, Victoria had two daily newspapers, and each
ran a different gardening column, both written locally. One of
the columns was written by Jack and Hilda Beastall, now long
dead, but still remembered as sources of very good advice.

Jack Beastall once wrote a column on preparing to seed a new lawn
that I have never forgotten (witness this message!). He
recommended that you keep the ground fallow all summer long,
watering it, fertilizing it, and cultivating it with a hoe
regularly. By doing so, you encouraged weed seeds to germinate,
and then killed them by hoeing. Seeding he recommended for early
September, when conditions turned cooler, moister, and more
congenial to grass seeding than they were in summer. [Please keep
in mind that our coastal BC climate is very dry in summer, hence
the delay was partially a matter of necessity. The UK has
different conditions.]

At any rate, I'd suggest you be in no rush to seed. Follow Jack
Beastall's advice, and dig in good soil amendments, water
regularly (if required), fertilize lightly from time to time, and
keep cultivating to kill weed seedlings as they emerge. When
perennial weeds like couch grass surface, you will be able to
easily dig them out because the ground is still bare.

A lawn is a very long-lived garden element; even several months
delay at the start may save you an enormous amount of effort
trying to control weeds later on.

--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada


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