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Justin Burnett 25-05-2003 01:56 PM

Is this a weed?
 
I scattered some seeds an aunt gave me last year but unfortunately I wasn't
interested in gardening at the time. I didn't keep the packet and have no
idea what they were.

The plants are have broad leaves with a darker, heart shaped mark in the
center of each leaf. The stems below the first leaf are red. There must be
800+ of these and since I'm a novice and the soil had absoluetly no
preparation I'm inclined to think they must be weeds! If they are something
worth keeping I'd love to know what they are.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Jus



Colin Davidson 27-05-2003 11:01 AM

Is this a weed?
 

"Justin Burnett" wrote in message
...
I scattered some seeds an aunt gave me last year but unfortunately I

wasn't
interested in gardening at the time. I didn't keep the packet and have no
idea what they were.

The plants are have broad leaves with a darker, heart shaped mark in the
center of each leaf. The stems below the first leaf are red. There must be
800+ of these and since I'm a novice and the soil had absoluetly no
preparation I'm inclined to think they must be weeds! If they are

something
worth keeping I'd love to know what they are.

Any help greatly appreciated.


How big are the plants? Any chance you could put a picture online somewhere?



Kay Easton 27-05-2003 01:56 PM

Is this a weed?
 
In article , Colin Davidson
writes

"Justin Burnett" wrote in message
...
I scattered some seeds an aunt gave me last year but unfortunately I

wasn't
interested in gardening at the time. I didn't keep the packet and have no
idea what they were.

The plants are have broad leaves with a darker, heart shaped mark in the
center of each leaf. The stems below the first leaf are red. There must be
800+ of these and since I'm a novice and the soil had absoluetly no
preparation I'm inclined to think they must be weeds! If they are

something
worth keeping I'd love to know what they are.

Any help greatly appreciated.


How big are the plants? Any chance you could put a picture online somewhere?

Possibly a polygonum - try a google search for pictures


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Justin Burnett 28-05-2003 09:22 AM

Is this a weed?
 

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Colin Davidson
writes

"Justin Burnett" wrote in message
...
I scattered some seeds an aunt gave me last year but unfortunately I

wasn't
interested in gardening at the time. I didn't keep the packet and have

no
idea what they were.

The plants are have broad leaves with a darker, heart shaped mark in

the
center of each leaf. The stems below the first leaf are red. There must

be
800+ of these and since I'm a novice and the soil had absoluetly no
preparation I'm inclined to think they must be weeds! If they are

something
worth keeping I'd love to know what they are.

Any help greatly appreciated.


How big are the plants? Any chance you could put a picture online

somewhere?

Possibly a polygonum - try a google search for pictures


--
Kay Easton

Thanks for the help so far. I've put a picture up on webshots.
http://community.webshots.com/script...howMyPhoto&alb
umID=74723183&photoID=74723273&security=NBlNPl The plant in the shot is
currently around 5 - 6" high

Jus




Colin Davidson 28-05-2003 10:09 AM

Is this a weed?
 

"Justin Burnett" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the help so far. I've put a picture up on webshots.

http://community.webshots.com/script...howMyPhoto&alb
umID=74723183&photoID=74723273&security=NBlNPl The plant in the shot is
currently around 5 - 6" high


I can't make that link work, even copying and pasting it doesn't seem to
help.



Serena Blanchflower 28-05-2003 10:09 AM

Is this a weed?
 
On Wed, 28 May 2003 09:17:11 +0100, "Justin Burnett"
wrote:

Thanks for the help so far. I've put a picture up on webshots.
http://community.webshots.com/script...howMyPhoto&alb
umID=74723183&photoID=74723273&security=NBlNPl The plant in the shot is
currently around 5 - 6" high



It looks as though you will need to update the authorisations for the
site. It's not allowing me in, saying that I don't appear to be the
owner.

People may find it easier to try one of the versions of the link below
(once the authorisations have been fixed), to avoid cutting and pasting.

http://community.webshots.com/script...ecurity=NBlNPl
http://tinyurl.com/cu7h

--
Cheers, Serena

Sometimes I sits and thinks ... and sometimes I just sits. (Punch cartoon)

Justin Burnett 28-05-2003 11:20 AM

Is this a weed?
 

"Serena Blanchflower" wrote in
message ...
On Wed, 28 May 2003 09:17:11 +0100, "Justin Burnett"
wrote:

Thanks for the help so far. I've put a picture up on webshots.

http://community.webshots.com/script...howMyPhoto&alb
umID=74723183&photoID=74723273&security=NBlNPl The plant in the shot is
currently around 5 - 6" high



It looks as though you will need to update the authorisations for the
site. It's not allowing me in, saying that I don't appear to be the
owner.

People may find it easier to try one of the versions of the link below
(once the authorisations have been fixed), to avoid cutting and pasting.


http://community.webshots.com/script...showMyPhoto&al
bumID=74723183&photoID=74723273&security=NBlNPl
http://tinyurl.com/cu7h

--
Cheers, Serena

Sometimes I sits and thinks ... and sometimes I just sits. (Punch cartoon)


Sorry folks, I can find nothing that would restrict access so perhaps using
the less direct link below will allow you in.
http://community.webshots.com/user/jburnett110

If that fails I'll wait and see what the plants do!




Adrian Jones 28-05-2003 12:44 PM

Is this a weed?
 
Please let me know, too, what this is as my garden is also full of this
stuff.

Thanks.



Sorry folks, I can find nothing that would restrict access so perhaps

using
the less direct link below will allow you in.
http://community.webshots.com/user/jburnett110

If that fails I'll wait and see what the plants do!






Serena Blanchflower 28-05-2003 01:20 PM

Is this a weed?
 
On Wed, 28 May 2003 11:22:39 +0100, "Justin Burnett"
wrote:

Sorry folks, I can find nothing that would restrict access so perhaps using
the less direct link below will allow you in.
http://community.webshots.com/user/jburnett110


That link seems to work OK, but I'm afraid I can't be much help in
identifying it. I'm sure someone round here will be able to help
though.

--
Cheers, Serena

Sometimes I sits and thinks ... and sometimes I just sits. (Punch cartoon)

Colin Davidson 28-05-2003 01:44 PM

Is this a weed?
 

"Justin Burnett" wrote in message
...

Sorry folks, I can find nothing that would restrict access so perhaps

using
the less direct link below will allow you in.
http://community.webshots.com/user/jburnett110

If that fails I'll wait and see what the plants do!


Ahh, that's a lot better. I think it's Polygonum persicaria... A quick
websearch for that has brought up this page:
http://www.hawriverprogram.org/NCPla...aria_page.html

It's a fairly common weed, bit it's quite a charming plant.



Tim 28-05-2003 01:56 PM

Is this a weed?
 
On Wed, 28 May 2003 13:49:24 +0100, Colin Davidson
wrote:


"Justin Burnett" wrote in message
...

Sorry folks, I can find nothing that would restrict access so perhaps

using
the less direct link below will allow you in.
http://community.webshots.com/user/jburnett110

If that fails I'll wait and see what the plants do!


Ahh, that's a lot better. I think it's Polygonum persicaria... A quick
websearch for that has brought up this page:
http://www.hawriverprogram.org/NCPla...aria_page.html

It's a fairly common weed, bit it's quite a charming plant.


Yes, that's it, also known as lady's thumb, or heart's ease. Tim.

Pickle 28-05-2003 01:56 PM

Is this a weed?
 
Just looked through my wildflower book...
Think it might be something called Redshank (Persicaria maculosa)
A weed, but not an unattractive one



A.Malhotra 28-05-2003 01:56 PM

Is this a weed?
 


Justin Burnett wrote:


Sorry folks, I can find nothing that would restrict access so perhaps using
the less direct link below will allow you in.
http://community.webshots.com/user/jburnett110

If that fails I'll wait and see what the plants do!


It looks like a polygonatum of some sort. Ita ctually looks just like the
Vietnamese coriander I have growing in pots but I don't think that's hardy
so I assume this is some other polygonatum. Some of them are supposed to be
rather invasive (japanese knotweed is related but the leaves are different
so its not that!).
Anita

Colin Davidson 28-05-2003 02:08 PM

Is this a weed?
 

"Tim" wrote in message
news:oprpvu45cvwxhha1@localhost...

Yes, that's it, also known as lady's thumb, or heart's ease. Tim.


And known also as red leg. Depends on where you come from.



Colin Davidson 28-05-2003 02:08 PM

Is this a weed?
 

"Pickle" wrote in message
...
Just looked through my wildflower book...
Think it might be something called Redshank (Persicaria maculosa)
A weed, but not an unattractive one


Before this all gets too confusing, I'll add that Persicaria maculosa is
another name for Polygonum persicaria, so this ID is the same as the other
one given in this thread (although the common name here is also different to
the ones given, just to make things even more complicated :)



Tim 28-05-2003 02:20 PM

Is this a weed?
 
On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:09:20 +0100, Colin Davidson
wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
news:oprpvu45cvwxhha1@localhost...

Yes, that's it, also known as lady's thumb, or heart's ease. Tim.


And known also as red leg. Depends on where you come from.


It must be pretty common then, it's got so many common names.
red leg
redshank
lady's thumb
heart's ease

....any more for any more?



Justin Burnett 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 

Ahh, that's a lot better. I think it's Polygonum persicaria... A quick
websearch for that has brought up this page:
http://www.hawriverprogram.org/NCPla...aria_page.html

It's a fairly common weed, bit it's quite a charming plant.


Yes that looks like the one to me. The site says "The plant grows in moist
areas of waste ground and disturbed sites." Should be quite at home then. I
think I'll thin them out before they take over. As colin says they are
charming so I'll keep a few.

Many Thanks to all who took the trouble to help out.

Jus



A.Malhotra 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 


"A.Malhotra" wrote:

Justin Burnett wrote:


Sorry folks, I can find nothing that would restrict access so perhaps using
the less direct link below will allow you in.
http://community.webshots.com/user/jburnett110

If that fails I'll wait and see what the plants do!


It looks like a polygonatum of some sort. Ita ctually looks just like the
Vietnamese coriander I have growing in pots but I don't think that's hardy
so I assume this is some other polygonatum. Some of them are supposed to be
rather invasive (japanese knotweed is related but the leaves are different
so its not that!).
Anita


oops I meant persicaria
Anita

David Hill 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 
Without doubt Persicaria.
Get rid of it, whilst it can look nice it seeds very easily and will be
coming back for years.
Also it can grow almost 2 inches in a week .

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




David Hill 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 
"..........As colin says they are charming so I'll keep a few........"

You'll be sorry....


--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




Adrian Jones 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 
I recognise the plant now and yes, that's what came up in the hundreds in my
garden last year (I'd forgotten about them). They were a nuisance, so I
wouldn't recommend that you keep any. I'm off out now to pull them all up
from my garden. I was keeping them because they sort of looked like phlox,
but now I know better!



"Justin Burnett" wrote in message
...

Ahh, that's a lot better. I think it's Polygonum persicaria... A quick
websearch for that has brought up this page:
http://www.hawriverprogram.org/NCPla...aria_page.html

It's a fairly common weed, bit it's quite a charming plant.


Yes that looks like the one to me. The site says "The plant grows in moist
areas of waste ground and disturbed sites." Should be quite at home then.

I
think I'll thin them out before they take over. As colin says they are
charming so I'll keep a few.

Many Thanks to all who took the trouble to help out.

Jus





Justin Burnett 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
Without doubt Persicaria.
Get rid of it, whilst it can look nice it seeds very easily and will be
coming back for years.
Also it can grow almost 2 inches in a week .


Thanks for the warning, I'll be digging the lot up tomorrow. I already have
a worthy adversary in the garden - Bindeweed. I can do without another! Is
ok to compost at this stage (Persicaria) or should I burn it?



Janet Galpin and Oliver Patterson 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 
The message
from "Justin Burnett" contains these words:


Ahh, that's a lot better. I think it's Polygonum persicaria... A quick
websearch for that has brought up this page:
http://www.hawriverprogram.org/NCPla...aria_page.html

It's a fairly common weed, bit it's quite a charming plant.


Yes that looks like the one to me. The site says "The plant grows in moist
areas of waste ground and disturbed sites." Should be quite at home then. I
think I'll thin them out before they take over. As colin says they are
charming so I'll keep a few.


Many Thanks to all who took the trouble to help out.


Jus


There is another similar Polygonum weed called Polygonum amphibium or
amphibious bistort. I have it in several places in my garden and find it
impossible to get rid of. The roots go down very deep and you never get
to the end of them. It seems to grow where land is or has been damp,
e.g. fens, but I'm not sure how widespread it is.
It's my pet hate and yet I've never come across anyone else who is
troubled by it.

However, I think yours probably is redshank rather than amphibious
bistort (which also grows in ponds), but you could see how far down your
roots go.

Janet G


ned 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 
Tim wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:09:20 +0100, Colin Davidson
wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
news:oprpvu45cvwxhha1@localhost...

Yes, that's it, also known as lady's thumb, or heart's ease. Tim.


And known also as red leg. Depends on where you come from.


It must be pretty common then, it's got so many common names.
red leg
redshank
lady's thumb
heart's ease

...any more for any more?


'Trouble with the common names is that the same name is often applied
to different plants eg Heart's Ease = Viola tricolour / Wild pansy.
'Confess I'd never heard it applied to P Persicaria.

And yes, Polygonum persicaria is very common.

--
ned



David Hill 29-05-2003 05:24 AM

Is this a weed?
 
"...Without doubt Persicaria....Also it can grow almost 2 inches in a week
....."

Must have been having a brainstorm, or just hunger got to me, should read
12 inches a week... yes 1 foot.
If you have a few young ones then a couple of weeks of warm wet weather you
will wonder where all the other plants have gone. They will have been
swamped.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




Colin Davidson 29-05-2003 11:08 AM

Is this a weed?
 

"Janet Galpin and Oliver Patterson" wrote in
message ...

There is another similar Polygonum weed called Polygonum amphibium or
amphibious bistort. I have it in several places in my garden and find it
impossible to get rid of. The roots go down very deep and you never get
to the end of them. It seems to grow where land is or has been damp,
e.g. fens, but I'm not sure how widespread it is.
It's my pet hate and yet I've never come across anyone else who is
troubled by it.

However, I think yours probably is redshank rather than amphibious
bistort (which also grows in ponds), but you could see how far down your
roots go.


Ordinary bistort is passably good eating. Redshank isn't, well, I suppose
it's maybe edible, but it's bland as hell and utterly pointless eating.
Pretty, though. Is amphibious bistort edible? I'll look it up later, see if
I can find it in any of my wild food books.



Colin Davidson 29-05-2003 11:08 AM

Is this a weed?
 

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
"...Without doubt Persicaria....Also it can grow almost 2 inches in a

week
...."

Must have been having a brainstorm, or just hunger got to me, should read
12 inches a week... yes 1 foot.
If you have a few young ones then a couple of weeks of warm wet weather

you
will wonder where all the other plants have gone. They will have been
swamped.


I haven't found it to be quite such a pest, I've had it growing quietly in a
corner which I've simply hacked into periodically to keep it in check.
Certainly not something you'd want in a low maintenance garden, but not in
my opinion uncontrollable.




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