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Why have my carrots not come up?
Second year running my carrots have not come up...the year before that they
were brilliant. I have rich dark soil and have been keeping the patch damp, what could be the problem....bad seeds perhaps?? clutching at straws here i think...lol |
Why have my carrots not come up?
I had a similar problem last year with three sowings. I think they got a
little too damp at a critical time. This year tried a 50:50 mix of sand and potting compost and filled a trench with this into which the carrots were sown. Came up with no problems, so this may be a solution... John "welshuser" wrote in message ... Second year running my carrots have not come up...the year before that they were brilliant. I have rich dark soil and have been keeping the patch damp, what could be the problem....bad seeds perhaps?? clutching at straws here i think...lol |
I planted a whole packet this year. Only three came up:confused:
Odd, that out of the whole packet!! only 3. I will take care of them though cos i have never grown carrots before so want so see them come up. i have put barriers around each one cos there are only three, to stop carrot flys getting at them. |
Why have my carrots not come up?
Odd, that out of the whole packet!! only 3. I will take care of them
though cos i have never grown carrots before so want so see them come up. i have put barriers around each one cos there are only three, to stop carrot flys getting at them. Three years ago I had a terrific crop of carrots. The last two years none have germinated and I have given up for this year. It is interesting to see that I am not alone. If anyone comes up with an answer I will try again next year. Howard Neil |
Why have my carrots not come up?
In article , Howard Neil
writes Three years ago I had a terrific crop of carrots. The last two years none have germinated and I have given up for this year. It is interesting to see that I am not alone. If anyone comes up with an answer I will try again next year. Carrots can take a long time to germinate. We waited ages for ours to show this year, then when the weather turned warmer in the last few days, they all started to show. Give yours a little more time before you give up on them. -- Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. |
Why have my carrots not come up?
Carrots can take a long time to germinate. We waited ages for ours to show this year, then when the weather turned warmer in the last few days, they all started to show. Give yours a little more time before you give up on them. That's been my experience too. I thought it was just because I didn't now what I was doing ... Mary -- Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"welshuser" wrote in message ... Second year running my carrots have not come up...the year before that they were brilliant. I have rich dark soil and have been keeping the patch damp, what could be the problem....bad seeds perhaps?? Usually too dry, too deep, smothered by quicker growing weeds. Also on certain soils watering the surface will cap the bed and make it difficult for seedlings to penetrate.Try watering your drill - really flood the bottom of the drill with a hosepipe. Sow your seeds, *just* cover and very lightly firm the soil with the back of your rake. No need for any more watering 'til after germination. Rod |
Why have my carrots not come up?
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:38:59 +0100, "welshuser"
wrote: Second year running my carrots have not come up...the year before that they were brilliant. I have rich dark soil and have been keeping the patch damp, what could be the problem. Same here. I never have much success with carrots. Is it possible that they germinate and something eats the tops? Having an allotment I cannot easily check them daily, so not sure what comes through. About 5 last time I looked! That won't see me through the winter!! Pam in Bristol |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"Alan wrote in message Three years ago I had a terrific crop of carrots. The last two years none have germinated and I have given up for this year. It is interesting to see that I am not alone. If anyone comes up with an answer I will try again next year. Carrots can take a long time to germinate. We waited ages for ours to show this year, then when the weather turned warmer in the last few days, they all started to show. Give yours a little more time before you give up on them. -- Even though I'm in the S. of the country it's been the same here this year. Sowed a few short rows in our carrot box and nothing, gave up and planted some more but using our own saved seed (Chertsey or Long Red Surrey) and they germinated then noticed the bought seed had just done so too. So much for staggered planting! :-) -- Bob www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in Runnymede fighting for it's existence. |
Why have my carrots not come up?
Carrots can take a long time to germinate. We waited ages for ours to
show this year, then when the weather turned warmer in the last few days, they all started to show. Give yours a little more time before you give up on them. -- Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. Thanks for the thought but when I say I have given up this year, I mean I have not sown any at all. Last year I sowed four different varieties from two different seed producers. One carrot germinated but stayed very small. Otherwise, nothing. I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before I waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). Howard Neil |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:38:59 +0100, "welshuser" wrote: Second year running my carrots have not come up...the year before that they were brilliant. I have rich dark soil and have been keeping the patch damp, what could be the problem. Same here. I never have much success with carrots. Is it possible that they germinate and something eats the tops? Having an allotment I cannot easily check them daily, so not sure what comes through. About 5 last time I looked! That won't see me through the winter!! Pam in Bristol thanks everybody, interesting responses. Yeah I sowed them about 4 weeks ago and I thought they would have come up by now. Might wait another 2 weeks before putting in a second sowing and writing off the first. Also, I have watered them a few times with the hosepipe so the 'capping' theory sounds very plausable. Will try again in a few weeks if none of them come up...lol, and keep everybody informed of course :) thanks a lot peepz. |
Why have my carrots not come up?
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:16:45 +0100, "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO
REPLY.co.uk wrote: ~ Carrots can take a long time to germinate. We waited ages for ours to ~ show this year, then when the weather turned warmer in the last few ~ days, they all started to show. Give yours a little more time before you ~ give up on them. ~ -- ~ Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. ~ ~Thanks for the thought but when I say I have given up this year, I mean I ~have not sown any at all. Last year I sowed four different varieties from ~two different seed producers. One carrot germinated but stayed very small. ~Otherwise, nothing. I had all of six last year! Out of *four* packets. I asked at the national veg soc stall at the BBC GW show what was going on and the old chap manning it said it was mainly conditions of last spring and he had heard of a LOT of folk with this problem. I got a bit bloody-minded this year and sowed a pot inside of Amsterdam forcing in January (!) just so I had some... (just mature now - sweet,straight and no carrot fly!! :) This year I did what the old chap had suggested - trod the rows down after planting and together with our slightly better spring I have tiny plants again. But to reinforce the other advice given by John Pearce, I sowed a row of Flyaway into a cm of compost, covering them up with a mix of compost and my quite-light soil. They came up like rockets, and have the added bonus that there are fewer weeds in that row. And the ones I do have are easier to pull out! I've now got Autumn King pelleted, Early Nantes and Flyaway. I am expecting the sacrifice-crop Nantes to be munched in preference to the Flyaway, though may do the old net curtain trick and cover them all soon. Anyone know how big a carrot is when the fly attacks? I'd say when the roots begin to swell, but I've never seen it mentioned... ~ ~I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before I ~waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). ~ ~Howard Neil ~ Good luck! -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
Why have my carrots not come up?
Andy Spragg wrote:
You are not alone. I've only had three or four come up. Mind you, they're doing better than my peas - not a single one!? How can you go wrong with peas, for God's sake? I did the whole thing as per instructions - prepared the soil carefully, made the V-shaped trench, gave it a good watering, plonked the peas in, sat back and waited ... and waited ... are they especially fussy about sowing depth? I think I may have planted them a /little/ deep, but other than that I am flummoxed. Andy -- It doesn't sound from my, somewhat limited, experience that you've done anything wrong. Maybe mice or birds got to the seeds before they had a chance to germinate? Started my first ever veg plot this year, and nearly all of my peas have come up. Fantastic moment last night when I picked one of the immature pods and ate it while looking at my garden. Delicious! Slightly sad I know, but it's the first thing I've ever eaten that I've grown myself, so I think I'll excuse myself! |
Why have my carrots not come up?
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Why have my carrots not come up?
I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before
I waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). I have just had a thought. I know that root crops are supposed to be sown direct into the ground they are to grow in and not transplanted. Does anyone know why? It seems to me that, as carrots seem to be so hard to cultivate, more success may be had if grown in a seed tray under controlled conditions. But what happens to the crop when transplanted? Howard Neil |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO REPLY.co.uk wrote in message ... I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before I waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). I have just had a thought. I know that root crops are supposed to be sown direct into the ground they are to grow in and not transplanted. Does anyone know why? It seems to me that, as carrots seem to be so hard to cultivate, more success may be had if grown in a seed tray under controlled conditions. But what happens to the crop when transplanted? I was taught many years ago that you don't transplant carrots or anything else with a long tap root. Now whether this is still seen to be correct I don't know Ophelia |
Why have my carrots not come up?
The message
from "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO REPLY.co.uk contains these words: I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before I waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). I have just had a thought. I know that root crops are supposed to be sown direct into the ground they are to grow in and not transplanted. Does anyone know why? See below It seems to me that, as carrots seem to be so hard to cultivate, more success may be had if grown in a seed tray under controlled conditions. But what happens to the crop when transplanted? Carrots and parsnips are basically a tap root, and most taprooted plants are very easily upset by transplanting. Carrot roots would fork and the tops rush to flower and seed. Carrots like to grow undisturbed in a deep loose humusy soil; I put mine in the patch which was heavily fertilised the previous year for sweetcorn or potatoes.Both those crops will have left the soil well worked and fed, without being too rich. If your seeds are likely to be disturbed by pecking/dustbathing birds or digging cats, then cover the seed row lightly with a single thickness of loose-weave onion sack (free from grocers) until the seeds have germinated. Hold down the fabric very lightly with a few stones. This cover also gives a gentle protection against excessive sunbaking or rain puddling, both of which can cake the soil surface and prevent seedling shoots emerging through it. I use the same thing over onion sets, and peas if I haven't put their sticks in at sowing time. You could also use horticultural fleece, but it's easier to see what's germinating through onion sack fabric. Janet. Janet. |
Why have my carrots not come up?
I have just had a thought. I know that root crops are supposed to be sown direct into the ground they are to grow in and not transplanted. Does anyone know why? No. I sow mine in small cells in the greenhouse and when they have at least three leaves I transplant them into the open ground. Well, I say open but they're protected from the hens ... I use Flyaway and don't find them hard to cultivate. I've been growing them in the greenhouse through the winter, there are still about a dozen to harvest. I was terrified of carrot fly until I found the resistant strains - which do seem to work. It seems to me that, as carrots seem to be so hard to cultivate, more success may be had if grown in a seed tray under controlled conditions. But what happens to the crop when transplanted? Mary |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"jane" wrote in message ... Anyone know how big a carrot is when the fly attacks? I'd say when the roots begin to swell, but I've never seen it mentioned... As a girl I used to be given the job of thinning the carrots for my dad. He used to tell me to be very very gentle with the foliage as squashing it releases a scent that attracts the carrot fly, he had an open 'manure heap' and I used to have to dig a hole in it with a trowl and bury the thinnings.I was also only allowed to do the thinning in the late evening. We did the same with parsely as it would seem the scent of this crushed attracted the fly also. Old dads tale??...dunno, but it seemed to work. Shan jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... No. I sow mine in small cells in the greenhouse and when they have at least three leaves I transplant them into the open ground. Well, I say open but they're protected from the hens ... Thanks for the replies. The answer from Mary is the way I was considering and this gives me the impetus to try it myself. After all, the carrots were not germinating when sown normally and it is worth a few seeds to experiment. Howard Neil |
Why have my carrots not come up?
shannie wrote in message ... As a girl I used to be given the job of thinning the carrots for my dad. He used to tell me to be very very gentle with the foliage as squashing it releases a scent that attracts the carrot fly, he had an open 'manure heap' and I used to have to dig a hole in it with a trowl and bury the thinnings.I was also only allowed to do the thinning in the late evening. We did the same with parsely as it would seem the scent of this crushed attracted the fly also. Old dads tale??...dunno, but it seemed to work. Shan No, not an old wives tale but based on fact. thinning them leaves the ground disturbed and as the smell of the crushed plants attracts the carrot fly they then find a way to the roots. watering after thinning does help, as does a barrier round the row, often a wall of fleece about 2 ft high, the carrot fly goes over it, but can't drop down quick enough to find the row. Carrot fly are not active late on, so again that works. Growing French marigolds close also confuses the carrot fly as it gives of a scent that masks the carrot smell. Mike www.british-naturism.org.uk |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:38:59 +0100, "welshuser" wrote: Second year running my carrots have not come up...the year before that they were brilliant. I have rich dark soil and have been keeping the patch damp, what could be the problem. Same here. I never have much success with carrots. Is it possible that they germinate and something eats the tops? Having an allotment I cannot easily check them daily, so not sure what comes through. About 5 last time I looked! That won't see me through the winter!! Pam in Bristol thanks everybody, interesting responses. Yeah I sowed them about 4 weeks ago and I thought they would have come up by now. Might wait another 2 weeks before putting in a second sowing and writing off the first. Also, I have watered them a few times with the hosepipe so the 'capping' theory sounds very plausable. Will try again in a few weeks if none of them come up...lol, and keep everybody informed of course :) thanks a lot peepz. |
Why have my carrots not come up?
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:16:45 +0100, "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO
REPLY.co.uk wrote: ~ Carrots can take a long time to germinate. We waited ages for ours to ~ show this year, then when the weather turned warmer in the last few ~ days, they all started to show. Give yours a little more time before you ~ give up on them. ~ -- ~ Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. ~ ~Thanks for the thought but when I say I have given up this year, I mean I ~have not sown any at all. Last year I sowed four different varieties from ~two different seed producers. One carrot germinated but stayed very small. ~Otherwise, nothing. I had all of six last year! Out of *four* packets. I asked at the national veg soc stall at the BBC GW show what was going on and the old chap manning it said it was mainly conditions of last spring and he had heard of a LOT of folk with this problem. I got a bit bloody-minded this year and sowed a pot inside of Amsterdam forcing in January (!) just so I had some... (just mature now - sweet,straight and no carrot fly!! :) This year I did what the old chap had suggested - trod the rows down after planting and together with our slightly better spring I have tiny plants again. But to reinforce the other advice given by John Pearce, I sowed a row of Flyaway into a cm of compost, covering them up with a mix of compost and my quite-light soil. They came up like rockets, and have the added bonus that there are fewer weeds in that row. And the ones I do have are easier to pull out! I've now got Autumn King pelleted, Early Nantes and Flyaway. I am expecting the sacrifice-crop Nantes to be munched in preference to the Flyaway, though may do the old net curtain trick and cover them all soon. Anyone know how big a carrot is when the fly attacks? I'd say when the roots begin to swell, but I've never seen it mentioned... ~ ~I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before I ~waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). ~ ~Howard Neil ~ Good luck! -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
Why have my carrots not come up?
Andy Spragg wrote:
You are not alone. I've only had three or four come up. Mind you, they're doing better than my peas - not a single one!? How can you go wrong with peas, for God's sake? I did the whole thing as per instructions - prepared the soil carefully, made the V-shaped trench, gave it a good watering, plonked the peas in, sat back and waited ... and waited ... are they especially fussy about sowing depth? I think I may have planted them a /little/ deep, but other than that I am flummoxed. Andy -- It doesn't sound from my, somewhat limited, experience that you've done anything wrong. Maybe mice or birds got to the seeds before they had a chance to germinate? Started my first ever veg plot this year, and nearly all of my peas have come up. Fantastic moment last night when I picked one of the immature pods and ate it while looking at my garden. Delicious! Slightly sad I know, but it's the first thing I've ever eaten that I've grown myself, so I think I'll excuse myself! |
Why have my carrots not come up?
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Why have my carrots not come up?
I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before
I waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). I have just had a thought. I know that root crops are supposed to be sown direct into the ground they are to grow in and not transplanted. Does anyone know why? It seems to me that, as carrots seem to be so hard to cultivate, more success may be had if grown in a seed tray under controlled conditions. But what happens to the crop when transplanted? Howard Neil |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO REPLY.co.uk wrote in message ... I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before I waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). I have just had a thought. I know that root crops are supposed to be sown direct into the ground they are to grow in and not transplanted. Does anyone know why? It seems to me that, as carrots seem to be so hard to cultivate, more success may be had if grown in a seed tray under controlled conditions. But what happens to the crop when transplanted? I was taught many years ago that you don't transplant carrots or anything else with a long tap root. Now whether this is still seen to be correct I don't know Ophelia |
Why have my carrots not come up?
The message
from "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO REPLY.co.uk contains these words: I will wait till I have new ideas as to what is causing the failure before I waste any more time and money on carrot seeds (as much as I like carrots). I have just had a thought. I know that root crops are supposed to be sown direct into the ground they are to grow in and not transplanted. Does anyone know why? See below It seems to me that, as carrots seem to be so hard to cultivate, more success may be had if grown in a seed tray under controlled conditions. But what happens to the crop when transplanted? Carrots and parsnips are basically a tap root, and most taprooted plants are very easily upset by transplanting. Carrot roots would fork and the tops rush to flower and seed. Carrots like to grow undisturbed in a deep loose humusy soil; I put mine in the patch which was heavily fertilised the previous year for sweetcorn or potatoes.Both those crops will have left the soil well worked and fed, without being too rich. If your seeds are likely to be disturbed by pecking/dustbathing birds or digging cats, then cover the seed row lightly with a single thickness of loose-weave onion sack (free from grocers) until the seeds have germinated. Hold down the fabric very lightly with a few stones. This cover also gives a gentle protection against excessive sunbaking or rain puddling, both of which can cake the soil surface and prevent seedling shoots emerging through it. I use the same thing over onion sets, and peas if I haven't put their sticks in at sowing time. You could also use horticultural fleece, but it's easier to see what's germinating through onion sack fabric. Janet. Janet. |
Why have my carrots not come up?
I have just had a thought. I know that root crops are supposed to be sown direct into the ground they are to grow in and not transplanted. Does anyone know why? No. I sow mine in small cells in the greenhouse and when they have at least three leaves I transplant them into the open ground. Well, I say open but they're protected from the hens ... I use Flyaway and don't find them hard to cultivate. I've been growing them in the greenhouse through the winter, there are still about a dozen to harvest. I was terrified of carrot fly until I found the resistant strains - which do seem to work. It seems to me that, as carrots seem to be so hard to cultivate, more success may be had if grown in a seed tray under controlled conditions. But what happens to the crop when transplanted? Mary |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"jane" wrote in message ... Anyone know how big a carrot is when the fly attacks? I'd say when the roots begin to swell, but I've never seen it mentioned... As a girl I used to be given the job of thinning the carrots for my dad. He used to tell me to be very very gentle with the foliage as squashing it releases a scent that attracts the carrot fly, he had an open 'manure heap' and I used to have to dig a hole in it with a trowl and bury the thinnings.I was also only allowed to do the thinning in the late evening. We did the same with parsely as it would seem the scent of this crushed attracted the fly also. Old dads tale??...dunno, but it seemed to work. Shan jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
Why have my carrots not come up?
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... No. I sow mine in small cells in the greenhouse and when they have at least three leaves I transplant them into the open ground. Well, I say open but they're protected from the hens ... Thanks for the replies. The answer from Mary is the way I was considering and this gives me the impetus to try it myself. After all, the carrots were not germinating when sown normally and it is worth a few seeds to experiment. Howard Neil |
Why have my carrots not come up?
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:05:11 +0100, "Michael Berridge"
wrote: No, not an old wives tale but based on fact. thinning them leaves the ground disturbed and as the smell of the crushed plants attracts the carrot fly they then find a way to the roots. watering after thinning does help, as does a barrier round the row, often a wall of fleece about 2 ft high, the carrot fly goes over it, but can't drop down quick enough to find the row. Carrot fly are not active late on, so again that works. Growing French marigolds close also confuses the carrot fly as it gives of a scent that masks the carrot smell. I have just read in an old copy of The Garden that planting coriander with carrots will deter carrot fly. The smell confuses as with the marigolds I suppose. Anyone tried it? I'm going to give the idea a try. Pam in Bristol |
Why have my carrots not come up?
shannie wrote in message ... As a girl I used to be given the job of thinning the carrots for my dad. He used to tell me to be very very gentle with the foliage as squashing it releases a scent that attracts the carrot fly, he had an open 'manure heap' and I used to have to dig a hole in it with a trowl and bury the thinnings.I was also only allowed to do the thinning in the late evening. We did the same with parsely as it would seem the scent of this crushed attracted the fly also. Old dads tale??...dunno, but it seemed to work. Shan No, not an old wives tale but based on fact. thinning them leaves the ground disturbed and as the smell of the crushed plants attracts the carrot fly they then find a way to the roots. watering after thinning does help, as does a barrier round the row, often a wall of fleece about 2 ft high, the carrot fly goes over it, but can't drop down quick enough to find the row. Carrot fly are not active late on, so again that works. Growing French marigolds close also confuses the carrot fly as it gives of a scent that masks the carrot smell. Mike www.british-naturism.org.uk |
Why have my carrots not come up?
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:05:11 +0100, "Michael Berridge"
wrote: No, not an old wives tale but based on fact. thinning them leaves the ground disturbed and as the smell of the crushed plants attracts the carrot fly they then find a way to the roots. watering after thinning does help, as does a barrier round the row, often a wall of fleece about 2 ft high, the carrot fly goes over it, but can't drop down quick enough to find the row. Carrot fly are not active late on, so again that works. Growing French marigolds close also confuses the carrot fly as it gives of a scent that masks the carrot smell. I have just read in an old copy of The Garden that planting coriander with carrots will deter carrot fly. The smell confuses as with the marigolds I suppose. Anyone tried it? I'm going to give the idea a try. Pam in Bristol |
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