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[email protected] 02-06-2003 06:32 PM

Solar lighting
 
I have been looking for solar lights to attach to the side of the
garage in our garden but the only ones I can find are for putting in
the ground on spikes. Does anyone know of anywhere that sells simple
ones that can be attached to a wall?.
Thank you, Diana

Steve Warren @ The UK Speedtrap Guide 02-06-2003 07:32 PM

Solar lighting
 

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I have been looking for solar lights to attach to the side of the
garage in our garden but the only ones I can find are for putting in
the ground on spikes. Does anyone know of anywhere that sells simple
ones that can be attached to a wall?.
Thank you, Diana


I have seen some in B&Q W/House that have a spike and wall option in the
same box.. They are like a hanging lantern, if that's any good.
Steve


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Jim W 02-06-2003 09:44 PM

Solar lighting
 
wrote:

I have been looking for solar lights to attach to the side of the
garage in our garden but the only ones I can find are for putting in
the ground on spikes. Does anyone know of anywhere that sells simple
ones that can be attached to a wall?.
Thank you, Diana


http://www.cat.org.uk do solar powered lights that attach to walls
//
Jim

Dave Liquorice 02-06-2003 10:20 PM

Solar lighting
 
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:03:38 GMT, wrote:

I have been looking for solar lights to attach to the side of the
garage in our garden ...


I hope you aren't expecting these things to a) produce more than a
glimmer of light b) last all night in the winter.

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[email protected] 03-06-2003 06:56 PM

Solar lighting
 
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:28:33 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:03:38 GMT, wrote:

I have been looking for solar lights to attach to the side of the
garage in our garden ...


I hope you aren't expecting these things to a) produce more than a
glimmer of light b) last all night in the winter.

--
Cheers

Dave. Remove "spam" for valid email.


Yes I was Dave. There are some in the local Morrisons supermarket . On
the box it advises to "charge" it up by sunlight for 8 hours or so.
They are like a lantern but with a spike. Maybe I won't bother if
they are as disapponting as you infer. Diana




Dave Liquorice 03-06-2003 09:20 PM

Solar lighting
 
On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:08:25 GMT, wrote:

I hope you aren't expecting these things to a) produce more than a
glimmer of light b) last all night in the winter.


Yes I was Dave. There are some in the local Morrisons supermarket .
On the box it advises to "charge" it up by sunlight for 8 hours or
so. They are like a lantern but with a spike. Maybe I won't bother
if they are as disapponting as you infer. Diana


There are rather a lot of variables. Size of solar panel, exposure to
direct sunlight, capacity of the batteries, effciency of the light
generating element are the major factors.

It's perfectly possible to build a solar power light that will run all
night at moderate light levels in the middle of winter but it isn't
going to have a small (few square inches) of solar panel, small
batteries and cost =A39.99 in a supermarket. B-)

They produce a enough light so that you won't walk into large things,
provided you night vision is up and running after a few minutes
outside. Just don't expect them to provide the same amount of light as
even a 15W pygmy bulb...

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Martin Brown 04-06-2003 01:44 PM

Solar lighting
 
In message ,
writes
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:28:33 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:03:38 GMT,
wrote:

I have been looking for solar lights to attach to the side of the
garage in our garden ...


I hope you aren't expecting these things to a) produce more than a
glimmer of light b) last all night in the winter.

--
Cheers

Dave. Remove "spam" for valid email.


Yes I was Dave. There are some in the local Morrisons supermarket . On
the box it advises to "charge" it up by sunlight for 8 hours or so.
They are like a lantern but with a spike. Maybe I won't bother if
they are as disapponting as you infer. Diana


For the sort of solar lamps sold in supermarkets he was being
optimistic.

Given enough solar panel area you can do it, but it isn't remotely cost
effective if mains power is available. Most are way under powered to
cope with anything like UK weather. They might (just might) work all
night in midsummer provided the daytime is fairly sunny. But cheap ones
will murder their batteries all too quickly. Amusing novelty...

--
Martin Brown

[email protected] 05-06-2003 09:18 AM

Solar lighting
 
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:28:33 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:03:38 GMT, wrote:

I have been looking for solar lights to attach to the side of the
garage in our garden ...


I hope you aren't expecting these things to a) produce more than a
glimmer of light b) last all night in the winter.

--
Cheers

Dave. Remove "spam" for valid email.


Yes I was Dave. There are some in the local Morrisons supermarket . On
the box it advises to "charge" it up by sunlight for 8 hours or so.
They are like a lantern but with a spike. Maybe I won't bother if
they are as disapponting as you infer. Diana




Dave Liquorice 05-06-2003 09:19 AM

Solar lighting
 
On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:08:25 GMT, wrote:

I hope you aren't expecting these things to a) produce more than a
glimmer of light b) last all night in the winter.


Yes I was Dave. There are some in the local Morrisons supermarket .
On the box it advises to "charge" it up by sunlight for 8 hours or
so. They are like a lantern but with a spike. Maybe I won't bother
if they are as disapponting as you infer. Diana


There are rather a lot of variables. Size of solar panel, exposure to
direct sunlight, capacity of the batteries, effciency of the light
generating element are the major factors.

It's perfectly possible to build a solar power light that will run all
night at moderate light levels in the middle of winter but it isn't
going to have a small (few square inches) of solar panel, small
batteries and cost =A39.99 in a supermarket. B-)

They produce a enough light so that you won't walk into large things,
provided you night vision is up and running after a few minutes
outside. Just don't expect them to provide the same amount of light as
even a 15W pygmy bulb...

--
Cheers

Dave. Remove "spam" for valid email.




Martin Brown 05-06-2003 09:19 AM

Solar lighting
 
In message ,
writes
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:28:33 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:03:38 GMT,
wrote:

I have been looking for solar lights to attach to the side of the
garage in our garden ...


I hope you aren't expecting these things to a) produce more than a
glimmer of light b) last all night in the winter.

--
Cheers

Dave. Remove "spam" for valid email.


Yes I was Dave. There are some in the local Morrisons supermarket . On
the box it advises to "charge" it up by sunlight for 8 hours or so.
They are like a lantern but with a spike. Maybe I won't bother if
they are as disapponting as you infer. Diana


For the sort of solar lamps sold in supermarkets he was being
optimistic.

Given enough solar panel area you can do it, but it isn't remotely cost
effective if mains power is available. Most are way under powered to
cope with anything like UK weather. They might (just might) work all
night in midsummer provided the daytime is fairly sunny. But cheap ones
will murder their batteries all too quickly. Amusing novelty...

--
Martin Brown

Gareth Jones 09-06-2003 10:32 PM

Solar lighting
 
In article , Martin Brown
writes
For the sort of solar lamps sold in supermarkets he was being optimistic.

Given enough solar panel area you can do it, but it isn't remotely cost
effective if mains power is available. Most are way under powered to cope with
anything like UK weather. They might (just might) work all night in midsummer
provided the daytime is fairly sunny. But cheap ones will murder their batteries
all too quickly. Amusing novelty...


It does depend on how much light you want. Our local Co-op has a four
pack solar light on a stick things for something like thirty quid.
We bought a few. One of them didn't work so I took it apart to fix it.
It uses a single ultrabright LED and two AA rechargeables.
I was a bit taken aback that it was only one LED because the light
intensity is much better than I had expected. I did a quick calc and
thought 'bugger me ... that should last for ages on a full charge!"
So I put it in a dark place and left it on. It not only stayed on
through the night, but all the next day as well! I gave up waiting in
the end and just thought 'that'll do for me' and stuck it in the garden.

For £30 I'd give it a go!

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Dave Liquorice 10-06-2003 12:20 AM

Solar lighting
 
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:30:02 +0100, Gareth Jones wrote:

It does depend on how much light you want.


That really is the clincher, as way markers they are fine. Just don't
expect them to light an area to the level a 15W pygmy bulb would.

I was a bit taken aback that it was only one LED because the light
intensity is much better than I had expected. I did a quick calc and
thought 'bugger me ...


I'd rather not. Thank you. B-)

... that should last for ages on a full charge!"


Yep just shows how ineffcient incandescant lamps really are. But the
key is also "on a full charge" it's not likely to get a full charge
during the short grey days of winter.

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Gareth Jones 10-06-2003 08:56 PM

Solar lighting
 
In article . network,
Dave Liquorice writes
'bugger me ..



I'd rather not. Thank you. B-)


Don't knock it till you've tried it big boy ;-)

But the
key is also "on a full charge" it's not likely to get a full charge
during the short grey days of winter.


True, but as a full 'May' charge seems to lasts at least 24hrs, I'd have
hoped that the majority of winter days might give enough power to say
last from 5 till 11pm or thereabouts.
We'll just have to wait and see!

And while I'd agree that you can't use them to 'light' an area like a
bulb, these ones with a whiteish light do give off more than just marker
illumination (as do some of the yellowish ones) and I can certainly see
things within a meter or two.

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