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The long... http://news.independent.co.uk/digita...p?story=419064 and the short of it http://tinyurl.com/fd9j fair use Proving that the garden makeover concept can be as strong on the computer screen as it already is in the television schedules, the new version of the software, Geoff Hamilton's 3D Garden Designer, which costs £30, has been a surprising bestseller in the eight weeks since it was released, according to the high-street chain, Game. ..................... Some, though, seem to be sticking with traditional methods - even if they do have access to a computer. In the internet discussion group uk.rec.gardening, one user who had tried a number of the products wrote: "Dunno if I'd use garden design software in anger. Graph paper or better, a sketch pad if you're artistic, give the most flexibility and allow you to work on it onsite." Others agreed. "You are much better off with some squared paper and a pencil, it's quicker and you can get a better idea of what you're doing," wrote "Pete the Gardener" in March /fair use Warwick |
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The long... http://news.independent.co.uk/digita...p?story=419064 and the short of it http://tinyurl.com/fd9j fair use Proving that the garden makeover concept can be as strong on the computer screen as it already is in the television schedules, the new version of the software, Geoff Hamilton's 3D Garden Designer, which costs £30, has been a surprising bestseller in the eight weeks since it was released, according to the high-street chain, Game. .................... Some, though, seem to be sticking with traditional methods - even if they do have access to a computer. In the internet discussion group uk.rec.gardening, one user who had tried a number of the products wrote: "Dunno if I'd use garden design software in anger. Graph paper or better, a sketch pad if you're artistic, give the most flexibility and allow you to work on it onsite." Others agreed. "You are much better off with some squared paper and a pencil, it's quicker and you can get a better idea of what you're doing," wrote "Pete the Gardener" in March /fair use In other words a researcher/journalist has done their work and is giving the source. Wish someone'd pay me stacks of dosh to write about how I use the web;-) // Jim |
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(Jim W) wrote: In other words a researcher/journalist has done their work and is giving the source. Wish someone'd pay me stacks of dosh to write about how I use the web;-) // Jim Whats the chances of a gardening journo suddenly getting asked to do a piece on gardening software and them being a lurker on here? Come on reveal yourself. 8-) They wouldn't have to be a lurker though would they? Just know how to use the web.. Anyone with a resoanable level of experience in using the web for research will have come across google groups archive.. All they have to do is search the archives for 'Gardening Software (etcetc) and mebbe read URG and lurk for a few weeks. IF they wanted they could even start a thread to their benefit with a sockpuppet.. The searching of archives they could have in minutes.. The thread would take a week or so longer.. It would depend on their deadline. They're also likly to have access to pro research facilities (the fee paying ones), libraries that hold stuff like gardening whiich? Trade journals etc etc.. If they lurk here.. then... HELLO JOURNALIST TYPE PEOPLE!!-))) // Jim |
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from Chris Norton contains these words: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:19:15 +0100, (Jim W) wrote: In other words a researcher/journalist has done their work and is giving the source. Imho trawling usenet archives for unverifiable soundbites hardly counts as research...or even, professional journalism :~} Whats the chances of a gardening journo suddenly getting asked to do a piece on gardening software and them being a lurker on here? Come on reveal yourself. 8-) We have in the past had a self-styled journalist turn up on urg openly looking for material he intended to sell. Janet. |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote Chris Norton contains these words: (Jim W) wrote: In other words a researcher/journalist has done their work and is giving the source. Imho trawling usenet archives for unverifiable soundbites hardly counts as research...or even, professional journalism :~} Janet. So what counts as serious research Janet ? Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources ........? Jenny |
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writes Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources ........? The WWW as a whole is well down on the list of reliability, as is UseNet. (There's very little quality control on either.) Some bits are good, others are nonsense, and one has to be able to tell the difference. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley http://www.meden.demon.co.uk/Malvaceae/Malvaceae.html |
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:17:06 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote: The message from Chris Norton contains these words: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:19:15 +0100, (Jim W) wrote: In other words a researcher/journalist has done their work and is giving the source. Imho trawling usenet archives for unverifiable soundbites hardly counts as research...or even, professional journalism :~} Usenet archives are an extremely valuable research tool, which you would know if you ever bothered to look. Just because your usual, somewhat flimsy arguments are discredited via online resources, doesn't mean many of us should follow the dead end you have led yourself, how strange to have the world at your fingertips, and yet try to isolate yourself? seems daft to me. Whats the chances of a gardening journo suddenly getting asked to do a piece on gardening software and them being a lurker on here? Come on reveal yourself. 8-) We have in the past had a self-styled journalist turn up on urg openly looking for material he intended to sell. And why not, resource is resource, as long as he never quoted you I think he would be quite safe. -- So, you dont like reasoned, well thought out, civil debate? I understand. /´¯/) /¯../ /..../ /´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ /'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') \.................'...../ ''...\.......... _.·´ \..............( \.............\.. |
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writes "Janet Baraclough" wrote Chris Norton contains these words: (Jim W) wrote: In other words a researcher/journalist has done their work and is giving the source. Imho trawling usenet archives for unverifiable soundbites hardly counts as research...or even, professional journalism :~} Janet. So what counts as serious research Janet ? Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources ........? Depends what sources you're thinking about, doesn't it? It's as reliable as anywhere else as a source of opinion, but it doesn't have as rigorous a peer review as scientific papers, for example. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:51:45 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote: In article , JennyC writes Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources ........? The WWW as a whole is well down on the list of reliability, as is UseNet. (There's very little quality control on either.) Some bits are good, others are nonsense, and one has to be able to tell the difference. The same applies to newspapers, magazine articles, TV and the Prime Minister's spin doctor. -- martin |
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JennyC wrote in message ... Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources ........? "..And she shows you where to look Among the garbage and the flowers " -- Anton |
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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... In article , JennyC writes Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources .........? The WWW as a whole is well down on the list of reliability, as is UseNet. (There's very little quality control on either.) Some bits are good, others are nonsense, and one has to be able to tell the difference. But HOW ?? Jenny |
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"anton" wrote in message ... JennyC wrote in message ... Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources .........? "..And she shows you where to look Among the garbage and the flowers " Anton Hi Anton ! She is wearing rags and feathers From Salvation Army counters............ That's me that is :~)) Jenny |
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writes "Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... In article , JennyC writes Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources ........? The WWW as a whole is well down on the list of reliability, as is UseNet. (There's very little quality control on either.) Some bits are good, others are nonsense, and one has to be able to tell the difference. But HOW ?? Jenny By not quite 'believing' fully the first time you read something, but to continue your research into the matter further. Just been a very interesting thread on uk.people.ex-forces where someone said they were going to dive on H.M.S.Falmouth. There was a discussion about it and an ex crew member came on line and said 'My old ship', I posted details of the H.M.S.Falmouth of the 1960's and he said 'Yup, that's her' We could have all gone away 'believing' this was the one we were all talking about, but it turned out we were all wrong, it was the H.M.S.Falmouth which was hit by 2 torpedoes at 4.52 on August 19th 1916 and headed for home, but was hit twice again off Flamborough Head by another U Boat. So whilst the research could have ended with one ship, further questions proved that to be wrong. About 5 people joined into this conversation feeding a bit here and a bit there to make the full picture. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forthcoming reunions. British Pacific Fleet Hayling Island Sept 5th - 8th Castle Class Corvettes Assn. Isle of Wight. Oct 3rd - 6th. R.N. Trafalgar Weekend Leamington Spa. Oct 10th - 13th. Plus many more |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:24:34 +0200, "JennyC" wrote:
"anton" wrote in message ... JennyC wrote in message ... Surely the web is just as reliable or not as other sources ........? "..And she shows you where to look Among the garbage and the flowers " Anton Hi Anton ! She is wearing rags and feathers From Salvation Army counters............ That's me that is :~)) Jenny oh no it's not it's Susanne. :-) -- martin |
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