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planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
Thoughts / help.
I'd like to plant some evergreen trees at the bottom of my garden as there are some 3 storey flats beyond that I'd like to screen off, just to get a bit more privacy as I can see into them from the house. I don't want to get all un-neighbourly, but would like to grow them to a height of about 15 ft and manage them, not let them go out of control. Can anyone point me in the direction of getting a better understanding of what's involved, background reading etc, i.e. how big can you buy young trees to plant, are there specialist gardening centres that would do this for me (may require some drilling out of concrete) any legal issues I need ot be aware of in case the neighbours get unfriendly? There wont be a huge shadow thrown over their house or anything as it would be just at the back of their garden. Thanks |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:19:49 -0700, apta wrote:
any legal issues I need ot be aware of in case the neighbours get unfriendly? Not yet; a bill was blocked just a couple of weeks ago. See http://freespace.virgin.net/clare.h/ for more details. There wont be a huge shadow thrown over their house or anything as it would be just at the back of their garden. It seems that all these "privacy hedges" start off this way, but lack of maintenance or new neighbours seem to end up putting a spanner in the works sooner or later. If you're serious about being fair to your neighbours, it's probably best to talk it over with them /before/ you start planting, and perhaps think about making some kind of legal agreement with them that's tied to the property, rather than to you, the present owner. Thanks Best Regards, Alex. -- Alex Butcher Brainbench MVP for Internet Security: www.brainbench.com Bristol, UK Need reliable and secure network systems? PGP/GnuPG ID:0x271fd950 http://www.assursys.com/ |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
Why dont you consider Pyracantha or Laurel instead much much easier to
control wrote in message ... Thoughts / help. I'd like to plant some evergreen trees at the bottom of my garden as there are some 3 storey flats beyond that I'd like to screen off, just to get a bit more privacy as I can see into them from the house. I don't want to get all un-neighbourly, but would like to grow them to a height of about 15 ft and manage them, not let them go out of control. Can anyone point me in the direction of getting a better understanding of what's involved, background reading etc, i.e. how big can you buy young trees to plant, are there specialist gardening centres that would do this for me (may require some drilling out of concrete) any legal issues I need ot be aware of in case the neighbours get unfriendly? There wont be a huge shadow thrown over their house or anything as it would be just at the back of their garden. Thanks |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
Everything you ask really depends on where you live. More info?
wrote in message ... Thoughts / help. I'd like to plant some evergreen trees at the bottom of my garden as there are some 3 storey flats beyond that I'd like to screen off, just to get a bit more privacy as I can see into them from the house. I don't want to get all un-neighbourly, but would like to grow them to a height of about 15 ft and manage them, not let them go out of control. Can anyone point me in the direction of getting a better understanding of what's involved, background reading etc, i.e. how big can you buy young trees to plant, are there specialist gardening centres that would do this for me (may require some drilling out of concrete) any legal issues I need ot be aware of in case the neighbours get unfriendly? There wont be a huge shadow thrown over their house or anything as it would be just at the back of their garden. Thanks |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
wrote in message
... Thoughts / help. I'd like to plant some evergreen trees at the bottom of my garden as there are some 3 storey flats beyond that I'd like to screen off, just to get a bit more privacy as I can see into them from the house. I don't want to get all un-neighbourly, but would like to grow them to a height of about 15 ft and manage them, not let them go out of control. Can anyone point me in the direction of getting a better understanding of what's involved, background reading etc, i.e. how big can you buy young trees to plant, are there specialist gardening centres that would do this for me (may require some drilling out of concrete) any legal issues I need ot be aware of in case the neighbours get unfriendly? There wont be a huge shadow thrown over their house or anything as it would be just at the back of their garden. Glad you are not my neighbour! I'll be honest and say what more the polite folk round her wont say. Fifteen feet? I think thats a bit excessive if you have neighbours of any kind. And how do you think you are going to "manage" them at fifteen feet? Do you know whats involved in getting to the top of them to do that "management"? And it wont be possible to keep them there. growth of many such trees cannot be completely capped, they will creep up , even five or six feet ends up at ten or twelve over a period of years. Just my experience - I have a whole avenue of these things running down the side of my drive ( no neighbours by the way) and I would love to dig them out, but it will take a major excavation and a couple of tractors to drag the b****** away - and they are only 12 years old. . Then the is the question of " not overshadowing the house" - whose house , theirs or yours? Are you sure? Have you looked at it from your neighbours garden? How would you feel if the roles were reversed and they were in your house and you were in theirs? What about casting a shadow over their garden? Not to mention the fact that you will leach all the goodness out of the soil and nothing will grow beneath them. At fifteen feet, thats a lot of ground root and a lot of distance which will be unusable ground.... and trees do not discriminate and will not recognise that they are over the boundary line between you and your neighbour. Put up a fence. |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
wrote in message
... Thoughts / help. I'd like to plant some evergreen trees at the bottom of my garden as there are some 3 storey flats beyond that I'd like to screen off, just to get a bit more privacy as I can see into them from the house. I don't want to get all un-neighbourly, but would like to grow them to a height of about 15 ft and manage them, not let them go out of control. Can anyone point me in the direction of getting a better understanding of what's involved, background reading etc, i.e. how big can you buy young trees to plant, are there specialist gardening centres that would do this for me (may require some drilling out of concrete) any legal issues I need ot be aware of in case the neighbours get unfriendly? There wont be a huge shadow thrown over their house or anything as it would be just at the back of their garden. Glad you are not my neighbour! I'll be honest and say what more the polite folk round her wont say. Fifteen feet? I think thats a bit excessive if you have neighbours of any kind. And how do you think you are going to "manage" them at fifteen feet? Do you know whats involved in getting to the top of them to do that "management"? And it wont be possible to keep them there. growth of many such trees cannot be completely capped, they will creep up , even five or six feet ends up at ten or twelve over a period of years. Just my experience - I have a whole avenue of these things running down the side of my drive ( no neighbours by the way) and I would love to dig them out, but it will take a major excavation and a couple of tractors to drag the b****** away - and they are only 12 years old. . Then the is the question of " not overshadowing the house" - whose house , theirs or yours? Are you sure? Have you looked at it from your neighbours garden? How would you feel if the roles were reversed and they were in your house and you were in theirs? What about casting a shadow over their garden? Not to mention the fact that you will leach all the goodness out of the soil and nothing will grow beneath them. At fifteen feet, thats a lot of ground root and a lot of distance which will be unusable ground.... and trees do not discriminate and will not recognise that they are over the boundary line between you and your neighbour. Put up a fence. |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
wrote in message ... Thoughts / help. I'd like to plant some evergreen trees at the bottom of my garden as there are some 3 storey flats beyond that I'd like to screen off, just to get a bit more privacy as I can see into them from the house. I don't want to get all un-neighbourly, but would like to grow them to a height of about 15 ft and manage them, not let them go out of control. Can anyone point me in the direction of getting a better understanding of what's involved, background reading etc, i.e. how big can you buy young trees to plant, are there specialist gardening centres that would do this for me (may require some drilling out of concrete) any legal issues I need ot be aware of in case the neighbours get unfriendly? There wont be a huge shadow thrown over their house or anything as it would be just at the back of their garden. Thanks Not to mince words, I think you have had it. You will just have to live with the situation or move. If you plant a row of Leylandii, you will regret it in ten years' time, however much you try to maintain them as a tall hedge. I was blessed with two such hedges and they eventually had to be cut off at 2 inches above ground level. It cost me a lot of money. Franz Heymann Franz Heymann |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
"mick" wrote in message ... Huge snip (I wish more people would do it too!) Put up a fence. AND in the dull winter months a blaze of colour at the bottom of the garden would be attractive so plant holly - female plants for berries and one very happy male plant! DO NOT let the lawyers in! DO NOT post to so many groups on such a simple topic there's enough stuff running about the net. Regards Ron |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
In article , mick
writes wrote in message ... Thoughts / help. I'd like to plant some evergreen trees at the bottom of my garden as there are some 3 storey flats beyond that I'd like to screen off, just to get a bit more privacy as I can see into them from the house. I don't want to get all un-neighbourly, but would like to grow them to a height of about 15 ft and manage them, not let them go out of control. Can anyone point me in the direction of getting a better understanding of what's involved, background reading etc, i.e. how big can you buy young trees to plant, are there specialist gardening centres that would do this for me (may require some drilling out of concrete) any legal issues I need ot be aware of in case the neighbours get unfriendly? There wont be a huge shadow thrown over their house or anything as it would be just at the back of their garden. Glad you are not my neighbour! I'll be honest and say what more the polite folk round her wont say. Fifteen feet? I think thats a bit excessive if you have neighbours of any kind. He's already explained the situation. Screening off 3-storey flats, no shadow cast over the building. Just because some hedges cause problems doesn't mean to say all hedges in all situations do! A 15ft fence isn't going to be much better. And whatever you may feel about a 15ft hedge, a three storey block of flats complete with people overlooking your house and garden is a lot worse! -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , mick writes wrote in message ... He's already explained the situation. Screening off 3-storey flats, no shadow cast over the building. Just because some hedges cause problems doesn't mean to say all hedges in all situations do! Only a three storey block? Most old Victorian houses would be that high. Fifteen feet is still a lot - and a lot of mainainance as I explained in the large chunk you selectively snipped. A 15ft fence isn't going to be much better. Nothing will screen the top floors of this block effectively unless it is near to his own house , in which case it may only need to be four feet high for the same effect. A fence will certainly pose less of a maintainance problem. And whatever you may feel about a 15ft hedge, a three storey block of flats complete with people overlooking your house and garden is a lot worse! If you dont like being overlooked then dont live in a town is the simple answer . Being overlooked is part of urban life - Ive been there. Sorry, just giving you a reality check on that one. |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
I'm not trying to block out every cm of concrete view. If I could
block up the 2nd level of the flats and leave the 3rd I'd be happy. Sticking a trellis up for plants to grow is the same as having the evergreens. I'm just trying to improve the feel of my backgarden a bit. I don't mind the maintenance, I'd get a gardener to come twice a year or so to keep it in order. Does anyone know how big I vcould buy some young fir trees, growing them from 2 feet tall would take some time. How much concrete would I have to dig up / how big would the root bakll be? I dont mind loosing a bit of space if I gain a bit of privacy. Thanks On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:15:39 +0100, "mick" wrote: "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , mick writes wrote in message ... He's already explained the situation. Screening off 3-storey flats, no shadow cast over the building. Just because some hedges cause problems doesn't mean to say all hedges in all situations do! Only a three storey block? Most old Victorian houses would be that high. Fifteen feet is still a lot - and a lot of mainainance as I explained in the large chunk you selectively snipped. A 15ft fence isn't going to be much better. Nothing will screen the top floors of this block effectively unless it is near to his own house , in which case it may only need to be four feet high for the same effect. A fence will certainly pose less of a maintainance problem. And whatever you may feel about a 15ft hedge, a three storey block of flats complete with people overlooking your house and garden is a lot worse! If you dont like being overlooked then dont live in a town is the simple answer . Being overlooked is part of urban life - Ive been there. Sorry, just giving you a reality check on that one. |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
In article , mick
writes "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , mick writes wrote in message ... He's already explained the situation. Screening off 3-storey flats, no shadow cast over the building. Just because some hedges cause problems doesn't mean to say all hedges in all situations do! Only a three storey block? Most old Victorian houses would be that high. Fifteen feet is still a lot - and a lot of mainainance as I explained in the large chunk you selectively snipped. "selectively snipped" What is sensible snipping apart from 'selective'? Would you prefer me to do indiscriminate snipping? And whatever you may feel about a 15ft hedge, a three storey block of flats complete with people overlooking your house and garden is a lot worse! If you dont like being overlooked then dont live in a town is the simple answer . Not a practical answer for those of us who need to earn a living! -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
planting fir trees in the back garden as a screen
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