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Janet Sanderson 20-07-2003 11:05 AM

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Must have one, but only if i can grow it? I saw it at Burton Agnes
when I went to see the Campanula collection, it was growing up a yew
hedge on the north side.

I have a HORRIBLE Layland hedge at the bottom of the garden which I am
on the north side of. It gives us no privacy at all, as the first 15
foot are just stumps with dead branches, the top 15 foot plus is green
bushy branches which takes the light. I have underplanted our north
side with yew, some of which is up to 15 foot now, and I am hoping
that when this grows, my neighbours will allow me to take the Layland
down. It is in this position I would like to plant the Tropaelum, but

1 will it grow in under these conditions

2 will it survive in North Yorks frost pocket

3 where do I find one

4 Can it tolorate lime soil

It would add such a splash of colour to the area and distract from the
dreadful trees. I have provided winter colour, by underplanting the
yew with Cornus - the stems look lovely against the dark Yew, but not
too interesting in Summer, so splash of colour would be nice. Oh yes
and Cornus, because we flood! however relatively dry under trees.

Thanks
Janet

Amanda Pope 20-07-2003 11:33 AM

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Janet I got one left

Argham Village Nursery
Between Grindale and Burton Fleming
so not far from Burton Agnes. bout 2 miles.

It has taken five years to track this plant down and finaly got it on the
benches for the first time this season.

if your at the top end of north yorks try that wonderful nursery at
lealholme (spp?) that was the last place i saw it on sale.

email me if you would like to reserve it.


www.arghamvillage.co.uk



Amanda Pope 20-07-2003 11:53 AM

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sorry I didn't answer your question.

trops are notoriously difficult in the nursery because of the deep rhizome
6-9inch. and need to keep the root cool (difficult in a pot) This is why you
seldom see it for sale.

They like cool northern climate so do well in Yorkshire but do prefer acid
to neutral soil with lots of humus and sand added. ( Burton Agnes is on
chalk with some clay over)

the conditions under a C. leylandii hedge do tend to acidify

Roots in shade main growth in full sun.

If you get it established it will be fine. but not an easy one this but such
a good plant it is worth trying





Janet Sanderson 20-07-2003 12:45 PM

Tropaelum Speciosim ?sp
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:23:58 +0100, "Amanda Pope"
wrote:

Janet I got one left

Argham Village Nursery
Between Grindale and Burton Fleming
so not far from Burton Agnes. bout 2 miles.

It has taken five years to track this plant down and finaly got it on the
benches for the first time this season.

if your at the top end of north yorks try that wonderful nursery at
lealholme (spp?) that was the last place i saw it on sale.

email me if you would like to reserve it.


www.arghamvillage.co.uk

Thanks Amanda, you convinced me (not that it would take much).
I have just had a quick look at your web site, will have to have a go
at our muddy pond next, and have a longer read. Can you give me a
price for the Tropaelum, and is it possible to send it? as not sure
when I will get over that way again, although if you have some rare
plants I will have to put a trip with my friend down for the future.

Thanks for the Lealholme tip, I tried to find it once about 3 years
ago, but gave up. I used to pass Perry's once a week (cost me a
fortune) I also found that many of their "Hardy" plants did not
survive.

Thanks
Janet

Kay Easton 20-07-2003 02:12 PM

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In article , Janet Sanderson
writes
Must have one, but only if i can grow it? I saw it at Burton Agnes
when I went to see the Campanula collection, it was growing up a yew
hedge on the north side.

I have a HORRIBLE Layland hedge at the bottom of the garden which I am
on the north side of. It gives us no privacy at all, as the first 15
foot are just stumps with dead branches, the top 15 foot plus is green
bushy branches which takes the light. I have underplanted our north
side with yew, some of which is up to 15 foot now, and I am hoping
that when this grows, my neighbours will allow me to take the Layland
down. It is in this position I would like to plant the Tropaelum, but

1 will it grow in under these conditions


It's growing in a similar position at York Gate, is it not?

2 will it survive in North Yorks frost pocket


Don't know - again, try looking at the one at York gate, Adel, N Leeds.


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Janet Sanderson 20-07-2003 02:42 PM

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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:27:56 +0100, (sw) wrote:

Janet Sanderson wrote:

Must have one, but only if i can grow it? I saw it at Burton Agnes
when I went to see the Campanula collection, it was growing up a yew
hedge on the north side.

I have a HORRIBLE Layland hedge at the bottom of the garden which I am
on the north side of. It gives us no privacy at all, as the first 15
foot are just stumps with dead branches, the top 15 foot plus is green
bushy branches which takes the light. I have underplanted our north
side with yew, some of which is up to 15 foot now, and I am hoping
that when this grows, my neighbours will allow me to take the Layland
down. It is in this position I would like to plant the Tropaelum, but

1 will it grow in under these conditions

2 will it survive in North Yorks frost pocket

3 where do I find one

4 Can it tolorate lime soil


5. It is stunning, but beware cabbage white butterflies! They completely


I have a Budlea and hebe very close, so will have to look out for
that.
thanks
Janet


Saffy 20-07-2003 10:05 PM

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"Janet Sanderson" wrote in message
...
Must have one, but only if i can grow it? I saw it at Burton Agnes
when I went to see the Campanula collection, it was growing up a yew
hedge on the north side.

I have a HORRIBLE Layland hedge at the bottom of the garden which I am
on the north side of. It gives us no privacy at all, as the first 15
foot are just stumps with dead branches, the top 15 foot plus is green
bushy branches which takes the light. I have underplanted our north
side with yew, some of which is up to 15 foot now, and I am hoping
that when this grows, my neighbours will allow me to take the Layland
down. It is in this position I would like to plant the Tropaelum, but

1 will it grow in under these conditions

2 will it survive in North Yorks frost pocket


I have one that appeared in my garden about three years ago and pops up
again each year. I live in Ayrshire so if can grow here I don't think it
would be a problem where you are. Ours isn't growing exactly where we would
like it, but as its so difficult to move and since it obviously chose its
own spot, there it will stay!

Saffy.



Saffy 20-07-2003 10:08 PM

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"Janet Sanderson" wrote in message
...
Must have one, but only if i can grow it? I saw it at Burton Agnes
when I went to see the Campanula collection, it was growing up a yew
hedge on the north side.

I have a HORRIBLE Layland hedge at the bottom of the garden which I am
on the north side of. It gives us no privacy at all, as the first 15
foot are just stumps with dead branches, the top 15 foot plus is green
bushy branches which takes the light. I have underplanted our north
side with yew, some of which is up to 15 foot now, and I am hoping
that when this grows, my neighbours will allow me to take the Layland
down. It is in this position I would like to plant the Tropaelum, but

1 will it grow in under these conditions

2 will it survive in North Yorks frost pocket


I have one that appeared in my garden about three years ago and pops up
again each year. I live in Ayrshire so if can grow here I don't think it
would be a problem where you are. Ours isn't growing exactly where we would
like it, but as its so difficult to move and since it obviously chose its
own spot, there it will stay!

Saffy.



GoldDustRhiannon 20-07-2003 11:42 PM

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Hi Janet

Not sure where you live in N.Yorks but if Castleton isn't too far away I'm sure
I could persuade my Mum to give you a bit of root. She's always giving bits of
it away but no one has her luck with it!

~Lorraine~

GoldDustRhiannon 20-07-2003 11:45 PM

Tropaelum Speciosim ?sp
 
Hi Janet

Not sure where you live in N.Yorks but if Castleton isn't too far away I'm sure
I could persuade my Mum to give you a bit of root. She's always giving bits of
it away but no one has her luck with it!

~Lorraine~

Franz Heymann 29-07-2003 11:42 AM

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"Janet Sanderson" wrote in message
...

[snip]

2 will it survive in North Yorks frost pocket


It thrives in Hawes, in upper Wensleydale. It must have its roots in shade
and will flower where the growth reaches the light.

I got mine from Olands nursery, not far from Ripon.

Franz Heymann





Phil 30-07-2003 10:12 AM

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:40:30 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

It thrives in Hawes, in upper Wensleydale.

I missed the first part of this thread (poor news-server) but I can
report that I have had 3 plants here in Fife for 10 years. They have
struggled despite being planted where they should like it. Seldom have
they exceeded 18 inches in height until this year. Suddenly one of
them has grown to 6 ft and is flowering well.

Phil

Jim W 30-07-2003 01:03 PM

Tropaelum Speciosim ?sp
 
Phil wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:40:30 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

It thrives in Hawes, in upper Wensleydale.

I missed the first part of this thread (poor news-server) but I can
report that I have had 3 plants here in Fife for 10 years. They have
struggled despite being planted where they should like it. Seldom have
they exceeded 18 inches in height until this year. Suddenly one of
them has grown to 6 ft and is flowering well.

Phil



We saw some fab ones at Kew yesterday.. They were trained up through
rhodo's and in full flower.. Fantastic!-)

//
Jim


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