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22-07-2003, 10:12 AM
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Another berry challenge
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
: Kay Easton writes :The final one is a Mahonia, but not sure which species. : Looks rather like Mahonia x media (japonica x lomariifolia, IIRC) [...] Could well be. I haven't seen it in the spring - so I don't know quite what the flowers look like - and that might be another helpful clue. My calling it "Oregon Grape" might well be technically wrong. However I'm close enough to reassure me about the edibility issue - which was my main reason for enquiring in the first place. -- __________ |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ |
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#17
22-07-2003, 07:38 PM
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Another berry challenge
In article , Tim Tyler writes
However I'm close enough to reassure me about the edibility issue - which was my main reason for enquiring in the first place. That's not a completely reliable rule of thumb. IIRC, Physalis has both edible and highly-toxic species. I also wouldn't be surprised if some edible legumes or umbellifers had toxic close relatives. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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22-07-2003, 08:20 PM
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Another berry challenge
In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
writes In article , Tim Tyler writes However I'm close enough to reassure me about the edibility issue - which was my main reason for enquiring in the first place. That's not a completely reliable rule of thumb. IIRC, Physalis has both edible and highly-toxic species. I also wouldn't be surprised if some edible legumes or umbellifers had toxic close relatives. Yeah, but that's Solanaceae, Leguminaceae and umbeillferae - 3 families full of nasty chemicals. Bereberidaceae (Mahonia's family) doesn't have many obviously poisonous species, does it? You're right to point out that relying on relationship to an edible species isn't advisable, but it's a better rule of thumb in some families than in others. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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22-07-2003, 08:29 PM
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Another berry challenge
In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
writes In article , Tim Tyler writes However I'm close enough to reassure me about the edibility issue - which was my main reason for enquiring in the first place. That's not a completely reliable rule of thumb. IIRC, Physalis has both edible and highly-toxic species. I also wouldn't be surprised if some edible legumes or umbellifers had toxic close relatives. Yeah, but that's Solanaceae, Leguminaceae and umbeillferae - 3 families full of nasty chemicals. Bereberidaceae (Mahonia's family) doesn't have many obviously poisonous species, does it? You're right to point out that relying on relationship to an edible species isn't advisable, but it's a better rule of thumb in some families than in others. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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#20
23-07-2003, 01:33 AM
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Another berry challenge
In article , Kay Easton
writes Yeah, but that's Solanaceae, Leguminaceae and umbeillferae - 3 families full of nasty chemicals. Bereberidaceae (Mahonia's family) doesn't have many obviously poisonous species, does it? Podyphyllum peltatum http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...on/Podoppe.htm You're right to point out that relying on relationship to an edible species isn't advisable, but it's a better rule of thumb in some families than in others. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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23-07-2003, 01:34 AM
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Another berry challenge
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
: Kay Easton writes :Yeah, but that's Solanaceae, Leguminaceae and umbeillferae - 3 families :full of nasty chemicals. Bereberidaceae (Mahonia's family) doesn't have :many obviously poisonous species, does it? : Podyphyllum peltatum : http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...on/Podoppe.htm That may be a relative of some of the plants I photographed - but it sure doesn't look like a very close one - and even there they say the ripe fruit is edible ;-) -- __________ |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ |
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23-07-2003, 01:34 AM
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Another berry challenge
In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
writes In article , Kay Easton writes Yeah, but that's Solanaceae, Leguminaceae and umbeillferae - 3 families full of nasty chemicals. Bereberidaceae (Mahonia's family) doesn't have many obviously poisonous species, does it? Podyphyllum peltatum http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...on/Podoppe.htm Hey - I've got some seeds of that :-) -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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#23
24-07-2003, 09:12 PM
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Another berry challenge
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from Stewart Robert Hinsley contains these words: That's not a completely reliable rule of thumb. IIRC, Physalis has both edible and highly-toxic species. I also wouldn't be surprised if some edible legumes or umbellifers had toxic close relatives. They both do, more especially umbellifers. -- Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk excange d.p. with p to reply. |
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