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Earnest Trawler 31-07-2003 08:33 PM

Sickly Weeping Willow
 
I have a salix x sepulcralis chrysocoma in a large planter. A couple of
months ago it was affected by scale, which I manageed to treat scucessfully,
now it has another problem. Almost half the leaves have gone very dry and
curled up, some have started falling, it's happened very quickly, in the
past 4 or 5 days.

It's planted in potting compost with pearlite, gets plenty of water and a
regular feed. I have other ordinary willows in pots which are all doing
fine. I am wondering if I am doing something wrong, or if I have just bought
a dud tree.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Earnest Trawler








Spider 31-07-2003 10:03 PM

Sickly Weeping Willow
 
I am not a willow expert, but this sounds like drought to me. If you're
sure you're giving it enough water, is it possible that the water isn't
reaching the tree efficiently. Is your tree grafted, for instance, and if
it is, have you checked that the graft/union is still intact?
SPIDER
Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
I have a salix x sepulcralis chrysocoma in a large planter. A couple of
months ago it was affected by scale, which I manageed to treat

scucessfully,
now it has another problem. Almost half the leaves have gone very dry and
curled up, some have started falling, it's happened very quickly, in the
past 4 or 5 days.

It's planted in potting compost with pearlite, gets plenty of water and a
regular feed. I have other ordinary willows in pots which are all doing
fine. I am wondering if I am doing something wrong, or if I have just

bought
a dud tree.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Earnest Trawler










Spider 01-08-2003 11:21 PM

Sickly Weeping Willow
 
If this willow is the potential giant I associate with pond-side planting,
it is possible it has outgrown its pot .. used up the soil until there is
nothing left to retain water. Although it seems unlikely after just three
months, there must be a considerable root mass to support that extra 2' of
growth. If you investigate the rootball, you will learn how quickly the
root is spreading, and even if it is damaged. It may help to do some
remedial root-pruning if you want to keep it in the same container, or pot
on to a bigger pot if you want natural growth.

I'm sure your feeding regime is appropriate since you have several other
willows in pots, so it can't be starvation.
My only other guess is that it may have been 'watered' by something with
four legs. If this is likely, then a good flushing out of the soil with
more water will continue the dilution process.
It would certainly help to keep the tree shaded until its health improves.

Sorry can't help further without more clues, but will check my RHS guide for
diseases of Salix when I get a minute.
SPIDER

Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply Spider.

I have been watering it every day untill water runs out the bottom of the
planter. It is grafted, I had not thought of that, the graft looks to be
fine. It's grown quickly from 6 feet when bought 3 months ago to about 8
feet and the trunk has thickened quite a bit, it seemed to be doing very
well up untill a few days ago.

Earnest Trawler

"Spider" wrote in message
...
I am not a willow expert, but this sounds like drought to me. If you're
sure you're giving it enough water, is it possible that the water isn't
reaching the tree efficiently. Is your tree grafted, for instance, and

if
it is, have you checked that the graft/union is still intact?
SPIDER
Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
I have a salix x sepulcralis chrysocoma in a large planter. A couple

of
months ago it was affected by scale, which I manageed to treat

scucessfully,
now it has another problem. Almost half the leaves have gone very dry

and
curled up, some have started falling, it's happened very quickly, in

the
past 4 or 5 days.

It's planted in potting compost with pearlite, gets plenty of water

and
a
regular feed. I have other ordinary willows in pots which are all

doing
fine. I am wondering if I am doing something wrong, or if I have just

bought
a dud tree.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Earnest Trawler














Spider 01-08-2003 11:37 PM

Sickly Weeping Willow
 
If this willow is the potential giant I associate with pond-side planting,
it is possible it has outgrown its pot .. used up the soil until there is
nothing left to retain water. Although it seems unlikely after just three
months, there must be a considerable root mass to support that extra 2' of
growth. If you investigate the rootball, you will learn how quickly the
root is spreading, and even if it is damaged. It may help to do some
remedial root-pruning if you want to keep it in the same container, or pot
on to a bigger pot if you want natural growth.

I'm sure your feeding regime is appropriate since you have several other
willows in pots, so it can't be starvation.
My only other guess is that it may have been 'watered' by something with
four legs. If this is likely, then a good flushing out of the soil with
more water will continue the dilution process.
It would certainly help to keep the tree shaded until its health improves.

Sorry can't help further without more clues, but will check my RHS guide for
diseases of Salix when I get a minute.
SPIDER

Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply Spider.

I have been watering it every day untill water runs out the bottom of the
planter. It is grafted, I had not thought of that, the graft looks to be
fine. It's grown quickly from 6 feet when bought 3 months ago to about 8
feet and the trunk has thickened quite a bit, it seemed to be doing very
well up untill a few days ago.

Earnest Trawler

"Spider" wrote in message
...
I am not a willow expert, but this sounds like drought to me. If you're
sure you're giving it enough water, is it possible that the water isn't
reaching the tree efficiently. Is your tree grafted, for instance, and

if
it is, have you checked that the graft/union is still intact?
SPIDER
Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
I have a salix x sepulcralis chrysocoma in a large planter. A couple

of
months ago it was affected by scale, which I manageed to treat

scucessfully,
now it has another problem. Almost half the leaves have gone very dry

and
curled up, some have started falling, it's happened very quickly, in

the
past 4 or 5 days.

It's planted in potting compost with pearlite, gets plenty of water

and
a
regular feed. I have other ordinary willows in pots which are all

doing
fine. I am wondering if I am doing something wrong, or if I have just

bought
a dud tree.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Earnest Trawler














Earnest Trawler 02-08-2003 09:42 AM

Sickly Weeping Willow
 
Thanks again for the suggestions.

A four-legged cause is quite possible, I have six cats, several of ny
neighbours have cats too, shall have to have words with them. :-) That could
well explain the suddeness of it. I will lift it and take a look at the
rootball over the weekend, give it a trim and add some fresh compost. It's
in an 80 litre planter which cost rather more than the tree, so that's going
to be it's permanent home.

Earnest Trawler

"Spider" wrote in message
...
If this willow is the potential giant I associate with pond-side planting,
it is possible it has outgrown its pot .. used up the soil until there is
nothing left to retain water. Although it seems unlikely after just three
months, there must be a considerable root mass to support that extra 2' of
growth. If you investigate the rootball, you will learn how quickly the
root is spreading, and even if it is damaged. It may help to do some
remedial root-pruning if you want to keep it in the same container, or pot
on to a bigger pot if you want natural growth.

I'm sure your feeding regime is appropriate since you have several other
willows in pots, so it can't be starvation.
My only other guess is that it may have been 'watered' by something with
four legs. If this is likely, then a good flushing out of the soil with
more water will continue the dilution process.
It would certainly help to keep the tree shaded until its health improves.

Sorry can't help further without more clues, but will check my RHS guide

for
diseases of Salix when I get a minute.
SPIDER

Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply Spider.

I have been watering it every day untill water runs out the bottom of

the
planter. It is grafted, I had not thought of that, the graft looks to be
fine. It's grown quickly from 6 feet when bought 3 months ago to about 8
feet and the trunk has thickened quite a bit, it seemed to be doing very
well up untill a few days ago.

Earnest Trawler

"Spider" wrote in message
...
I am not a willow expert, but this sounds like drought to me. If

you're
sure you're giving it enough water, is it possible that the water

isn't
reaching the tree efficiently. Is your tree grafted, for instance,

and
if
it is, have you checked that the graft/union is still intact?
SPIDER






Spider 02-08-2003 09:02 PM

Sickly Weeping Willow
 
Glad to help .. if I have.
Don't be too hard on the cats. You may have foxes in your area, and they
could aim higher! Check the height of the damage before you start pulling
whiskers out!. Good luck.
Spider.
Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
Thanks again for the suggestions.

A four-legged cause is quite possible, I have six cats, several of ny
neighbours have cats too, shall have to have words with them. :-) That

could
well explain the suddeness of it. I will lift it and take a look at the
rootball over the weekend, give it a trim and add some fresh compost. It's
in an 80 litre planter which cost rather more than the tree, so that's

going
to be it's permanent home.

Earnest Trawler

"Spider" wrote in message
...
If this willow is the potential giant I associate with pond-side

planting,
it is possible it has outgrown its pot .. used up the soil until there

is
nothing left to retain water. Although it seems unlikely after just

three
months, there must be a considerable root mass to support that extra 2'

of
growth. If you investigate the rootball, you will learn how quickly the
root is spreading, and even if it is damaged. It may help to do some
remedial root-pruning if you want to keep it in the same container, or

pot
on to a bigger pot if you want natural growth.

I'm sure your feeding regime is appropriate since you have several other
willows in pots, so it can't be starvation.
My only other guess is that it may have been 'watered' by something with
four legs. If this is likely, then a good flushing out of the soil with
more water will continue the dilution process.
It would certainly help to keep the tree shaded until its health

improves.

Sorry can't help further without more clues, but will check my RHS guide

for
diseases of Salix when I get a minute.
SPIDER

Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply Spider.

I have been watering it every day untill water runs out the bottom of

the
planter. It is grafted, I had not thought of that, the graft looks to

be
fine. It's grown quickly from 6 feet when bought 3 months ago to about

8
feet and the trunk has thickened quite a bit, it seemed to be doing

very
well up untill a few days ago.

Earnest Trawler

"Spider" wrote in message
...
I am not a willow expert, but this sounds like drought to me. If

you're
sure you're giving it enough water, is it possible that the water

isn't
reaching the tree efficiently. Is your tree grafted, for instance,

and
if
it is, have you checked that the graft/union is still intact?
SPIDER








Spider 04-08-2003 11:44 AM

Sickly Weeping Willow
 
Sounds like you've finally cracked it. Hope all goes well from now on.
Incidentally, cats don't eat cacti - they like soft squeaky things!
Regards.
Spider
Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
Had a look at it this evening, had to lift the tree and all the compost

out
in one rather heavy lump as it was rather badly rootbound. The compost was
much drier that I would have expected in view of the amount of water I

give
it. There is no damage that I can see other that a lot of dried out

leaves.

I have trimmed the rootball to about half it's size, replanted it with
plenty of new compost with pearlite and a top dressing of grit, have put

far
fewer crocks in the bottom to reduce the drainage a bit and removed the
worst affected branches. I also put a cane and string "fence" around it in
case it is a cat problem, it probably isn't, but the teeth marks in some

of
my cacti are a little suspicious. :-)

Just have to wait and see.

Regards, Earnest Trawler

"Spider" wrote in message
...
Glad to help .. if I have.
Don't be too hard on the cats. You may have foxes in your area, and

they
could aim higher! Check the height of the damage before you start

pulling
whiskers out!. Good luck.
Spider.
Earnest Trawler wrote in message
...
Thanks again for the suggestions.

A four-legged cause is quite possible, I have six cats, several of ny
neighbours have cats too, shall have to have words with them. :-) That

could
well explain the suddeness of it. I will lift it and take a look at

the
rootball over the weekend, give it a trim and add some fresh compost.

It's
in an 80 litre planter which cost rather more than the tree, so that's

going
to be it's permanent home.

Earnest Trawler

"Spider" wrote in message
...
If this willow is the potential giant I associate with pond-side

planting,
it is possible it has outgrown its pot .. used up the soil until

there
is
nothing left to retain water. Although it seems unlikely after just

three
months, there must be a considerable root mass to support that extra

2'
of
growth. If you investigate the rootball, you will learn how quickly

the
root is spreading, and even if it is damaged. It may help to do

some
remedial root-pruning if you want to keep it in the same container,

or
pot
on to a bigger pot if you want natural growth.

I'm sure your feeding regime is appropriate since you have several

other
willows in pots, so it can't be starvation.
My only other guess is that it may have been 'watered' by something

with
four legs. If this is likely, then a good flushing out of the soil

with
more water will continue the dilution process.
It would certainly help to keep the tree shaded until its health

improves.

Sorry can't help further without more clues, but will check my RHS

guide
for
diseases of Salix when I get a minute.
SPIDER









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