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David W.E. Roberts 10-08-2003 11:13 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening

"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?



--
Roy Millar, Use m o u l i n e t @


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.

I keep finding moths hiding in unlikely places during the day.
AFAIK they are mainly nocturnal and so have to find a safe retreat during
the heat of the day.
I am trying to explain gently that my stock of timber in the garage which I
am using in my ever ongoing en-suite project is not a safe place to hide,
but every time I pull out another piece of timber I find a moth hiding in
the gaps below.

If you can bear it, please don't eliminate them.
Obviously check that they are not clothes moths first :-)
AFAIK they are completely harmless and beneficial to the garden, much like
butterflies.
They seem to take over from the butterflies in the evening, flitting between
the flowers.

Cheers
Dave R



Simon Gardner 10-08-2003 12:03 PM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
In article ,
"David W.E. Roberts" wrote:

"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


If you can bear it, please don't eliminate them.
Obviously check that they are not clothes moths first :-)
AFAIK they are completely harmless and beneficial to the garden, much like
butterflies.


Sounds like it might be meal moths. They like flour and particularly
peanuts. They are a bugger to get rid of and you have to use a special
insecticide for months. Ordinary household insecticide doesn't touch them.
Make sure all possible stored food is sealed so the grubs can't get at it.



Mike Lyle 10-08-2003 04:43 PM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening

"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?



--
Roy Millar, Use m o u l i n e t @


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.

I keep finding moths hiding in unlikely places during the day.
AFAIK they are mainly nocturnal and so have to find a safe retreat during
the heat of the day.
I am trying to explain gently that my stock of timber in the garage which I
am using in my ever ongoing en-suite project is not a safe place to hide,
but every time I pull out another piece of timber I find a moth hiding in
the gaps below.

If you can bear it, please don't eliminate them.
Obviously check that they are not clothes moths first :-)
AFAIK they are completely harmless and beneficial to the garden, much like
butterflies.
They seem to take over from the butterflies in the evening, flitting between
the flowers.


I like moths: many of them are much more elegant than butterflies. The
children and I used to set a moth trap overnight and admire and
release our haul in the morning. Collins Gem Guide to Butterflies and
Moths is very good for identifying.

Clothes moths are very small, and I doubt if you'd get clouds of them
in the garden. Cabbage moths are the night equivalent of cabbage white
butterflies; codlin moths are the ones which put caterpillars in
apples; and I find mullein moths troublesome on verbascums here in
West Wales. All these are shades of brown -- at rest, the mulleins
look just like old bits of bark. Also a pest are winter moths, which
you won't have just now, as, surprisingly, they appear in the winter:
grease bands round your apple trees will stop the wingless females
climbing up and creating havoc.

Mike.

Janet Baraclough 11-08-2003 06:08 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)

Janet Baraclough 11-08-2003 06:08 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)

Janet Baraclough 11-08-2003 06:08 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)

anne 11-08-2003 06:08 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 

Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.



anne 11-08-2003 06:08 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 

Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.



anne 11-08-2003 06:08 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 

Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.



Janet Baraclough 11-08-2003 06:09 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)

anne 11-08-2003 06:09 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 

Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.



Janet Baraclough 11-08-2003 06:11 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)

anne 11-08-2003 06:11 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 

Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.



Aileen Howard 11-08-2003 06:42 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
In the 'olden days' Mum used to put "moth-balls" in the wardrobes to
discourage moths (not kill them as far as I know). These were naphthalene,
and smelled pretty horrid as far as I remember, but it must be better than
squashing them (even for a phobic like me).

Regards, Aileen

"anne" wrote in message
...

Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm

suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are

clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.





martin 11-08-2003 08:03 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:16:40 +0100, "anne"
wrote:


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.


with the end of ration books?

Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


--
Martin

martin 11-08-2003 08:03 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:16:40 +0100, "anne"
wrote:


Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


It seems we can't trust you :-)

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2107.html
--
Martin

martin 11-08-2003 08:03 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:46:10 +0200, martin wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:16:40 +0100, "anne"
wrote:



Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


It seems we can't trust you :-)

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2107.html


and a UK website on the same subject
http://www.harrow.gov.uk/council/dep...lth/carpet.asp
--
Martin

anne 11-08-2003 09:09 PM

Surviving a plague of moths
 

martin wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:46:10 +0200, martin wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:16:40 +0100, "anne"
wrote:



Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


It seems we can't trust you :-)

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2107.html


and a UK website on the same subject

http://www.harrow.gov.uk/council/dep...lth/carpet.asp
--
Martin


Oh dear, I've been rumbled! I can hardly believe you went looking for
clothes moths websites just to disprove me though ;-) Well done.



martin 11-08-2003 09:10 PM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:41:02 +0100, "anne"
wrote:


martin wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:46:10 +0200, martin wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:16:40 +0100, "anne"
wrote:



Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.

It seems we can't trust you :-)

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2107.html


and a UK website on the same subject

http://www.harrow.gov.uk/council/dep...lth/carpet.asp
--
Martin


Oh dear, I've been rumbled! I can hardly believe you went looking for
clothes moths websites just to disprove me though ;-) Well done.


:-)

--
Martin

Rusty Hinge 12-08-2003 01:14 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from "anne" contains these words:

Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


Oh yes? What was it noshed holes in my evening dress then? Coat moths?

--
Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm
horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk excange d.p. with p to reply.

martin 12-08-2003 01:26 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:59:39 +0100, Rusty Hinge
wrote:

The message
from "anne" contains these words:

Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


Oh yes? What was it noshed holes in my evening dress then? Coat moths?


Dracula?
--
Martin

Franz Heymann 12-08-2003 01:26 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 

"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
The message
from "anne" contains these words:

Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


Oh yes? What was it noshed holes in my evening dress then? Coat moths?


It sounds as if your monkey suit is as old as mine.

[Franz Heymann]



martin 12-08-2003 01:27 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

Oh yes? What was it noshed holes in my evening dress then? Coat moths?


It sounds as if your monkey suit is as old as mine.


and the moth eaten monkey wearing it :-)
--
Martin

Rusty Hinge 12-08-2003 01:28 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
The message
from "anne" contains these words:

Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


Oh yes? What was it noshed holes in my evening dress then? Coat moths?


It sounds as if your monkey suit is as old as mine.


It was my father's. Lost him in 1940. Could have been somewhat older, I think.

Now scouring charity shops - can't afford a new one. (The DJ and morning
dress escaped, probably because I'd used them from time to time.)

--
Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm
horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk excange d.p. with p to reply.

Neil Jones 12-08-2003 09:06 PM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
"anne" wrote in message ...
Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Cross posted to uk.rec.gardening


"Roy Millar" wrote in message
...
Don't know what I could have done to encourage them, but I'm suffering
a plague of small (clothes?) moths.

Anyone know of reasonably safe ways of eliminating them?


There are loads of moths around at present but I doubt they are clothes
moths.
I don't think they do very well on modern artificial fabrics.


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.

Janet (Isle of Arran)


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


This isn't true. Don't believe everything you read on the net.
These moths have a natural habitat where ever furm wool or similar
substanes can occur in sufficient quantities.The moths are very small.
A typical wild location would be a birds nest. However there are a lot
of small moths, most are harmless.

--
Neil Jones- http://www.butterflyguy.com/
"At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn
Bog National Nature Reserve

Janet Baraclough 13-08-2003 04:13 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from (Neil Jones) contains these words:


Janet Baraclough wrote in message


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


This isn't true. Don't believe everything you read on the net.
These moths have a natural habitat where ever furm wool or similar
substanes can occur in sufficient quantities.


I wonder if that's what happened here? The moths were loose in rooms
and in windows which suggests they came from outside..I've not found any
in drawers or cupboards.There are sheep in the adjacent meadow. The
clothesmoth influx happened a few weeks after the sheep shearing was
done about a hundred yards away. It's even possible the fleeces were
just dumped nearby, they aren't worth much these days.

Janet.

Janet Baraclough 13-08-2003 04:25 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
The message
from (Neil Jones) contains these words:


Janet Baraclough wrote in message


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


This isn't true. Don't believe everything you read on the net.
These moths have a natural habitat where ever furm wool or similar
substanes can occur in sufficient quantities.


I wonder if that's what happened here? The moths were loose in rooms
and in windows which suggests they came from outside..I've not found any
in drawers or cupboards.There are sheep in the adjacent meadow. The
clothesmoth influx happened a few weeks after the sheep shearing was
done about a hundred yards away. It's even possible the fleeces were
just dumped nearby, they aren't worth much these days.

Janet.

anne 13-08-2003 04:45 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 

Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from (Neil Jones) contains these words:


Janet Baraclough wrote in message


Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths

in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've

hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics

are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.


Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came

across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today

are
friends.


This isn't true. Don't believe everything you read on the net.
These moths have a natural habitat where ever furm wool or similar
substanes can occur in sufficient quantities.


I wonder if that's what happened here? The moths were loose in rooms
and in windows which suggests they came from outside..I've not found any
in drawers or cupboards.There are sheep in the adjacent meadow. The
clothesmoth influx happened a few weeks after the sheep shearing was
done about a hundred yards away. It's even possible the fleeces were
just dumped nearby, they aren't worth much these days.



Fleece moths are a different draw of moths altogether. Does this "shepherd"
also drive over your fifteen year old hebe? If so, think conspiracy.


Janet.




Mike Lyle 13-08-2003 09:35 AM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
"anne" wrote in message ...
martin wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:46:10 +0200, martin wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:16:40 +0100, "anne"
wrote:



Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.

It seems we can't trust you :-)

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2107.html


and a UK website on the same subject

http://www.harrow.gov.uk/council/dep...lth/carpet.asp
--
Martin


Oh dear, I've been rumbled! I can hardly believe you went looking for
clothes moths websites just to disprove me though ;-) Well done.


I know it's OT, but I'd love to know why you said it.

I don't know why you didn't believe people would check: it's quite
important, after all.

Mike.

Pam Moore 13-08-2003 07:43 PM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
On 13 Aug 2003 01:31:50 -0700, (Mike Lyle)
wrote:

Clothes moths officially died out according to a website I came across.
Forget the year and the website, but trust me all moths around today are
friends.


Well then, can you tell me what has eaten holes in one of my Woollen
cardigans? I was in no doubt it was moth damage when I discovered it
last week, and I do have little moths flying around occasionally, the
sort my Grandma used to kill by clapping her hands together on them.
(I always seem to miss!!)

Pam in Bristol

John Rouse 13-08-2003 09:12 PM

Surviving a plague of moths
 
In article , Janet Baraclough
writes

Funnily enough in the past fortnight we too have a plague of moths in
the house which look exactly like clothes moths; something I've hardly
seen for years even though most of our clothes and domestic fabrics are
natural fibres. I've been squashing them.


We too have been plagued with clothes moths - they were in the carpets
the previous vendors kindly left us.

I saw an article in the National Trust Magazine about pheromone traps,
which are available from a firm called Historyonics (sic) and cost £6.50
each.

Unfortunately it tells you to use them in spring, when a moths fancy
turns to that sort of thing.

John
--
John Rouse


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