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On 17 Aug 2003 01:36:03 -0700, (Mike Lyle)
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ...
"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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There has been some nonsense spoken in this ng about the putative shelf
life
of rooting hormones.
The following URL sets the record quite straight, quite unambiguously
and
without prevarication:

http://www.pbi.co.uk/faq1.asp?productid=9
[...]

That URL is also the one which suggests you should use a rooting
hormone for fuchsia and geranium (I assume = pelargonium) cuttings:
among the very easiest plants to propagate at almost any time of year.
Not my first port of call as a source of objective horticultural
information. Anybody who uses that kind of sales talk is a con-man,
and a gardener of Franz's experience knows it.

Yes. The fact that they are trying to sell the stuff does not detract from
the clarity of the statement vis-a-vis the shelf life. They are unlikely to
be so clear about it if it was a lie. They would be taken to court sooner
or later if the statement was untrue or misleading.

This is probably right; but I'd still be inclined to replace the stuff
every year, as I couldn't guarantee the proper storage conditions (I
know you've already mentioned this). A more shameless company would, I
suppose on reflection, recommend this.

I have never seen such a recommendation on any product with a
specified shelf life. Isn't it implicit?
Take the contents of our fridge for instance :-)
--
Martin

Shelf liife of rooting hormone
 

"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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There has been some nonsense spoken in this ng about the putative
shelf
life
of rooting hormones.
The following URL sets the record quite straight, quite
unambiguously
and
without prevarication:

http://www.pbi.co.uk/faq1.asp?productid=9
[...]

That URL is also the one which suggests you should use a rooting
hormone for fuchsia and geranium (I assume = pelargonium) cuttings:
among the very easiest plants to propagate at almost any time of year.
Not my first port of call as a source of objective horticultural
information. Anybody who uses that kind of sales talk is a con-man,
and a gardener of Franz's experience knows it.

Yes. The fact that they are trying to sell the stuff does not detract
from
the clarity of the statement vis-a-vis the shelf life. They are
unlikely to
be so clear about it if it was a lie. They would be taken to court
sooner
or later if the statement was untrue or misleading.

This is probably right; but I'd still be inclined to replace the stuff
every year, as I couldn't guarantee the proper storage conditions (I
know you've already mentioned this). A more shameless company would, I
suppose on reflection, recommend this.

Mike.

Shelf liife of rooting hormone
 

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:11:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
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Mike.

You keep forgetting the reply today. Old age creeping up? :-)

--
Martin

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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...
"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...
There has been some nonsense spoken in this ng about the putative
shelf
life
of rooting hormones.
The following URL sets the record quite straight, quite
unambiguously
and
without prevarication:

http://www.pbi.co.uk/faq1.asp?productid=9
[...]

That URL is also the one which suggests you should use a rooting
hormone for fuchsia and geranium (I assume = pelargonium) cuttings:
among the very easiest plants to propagate at almost any time of year.
Not my first port of call as a source of objective horticultural
information. Anybody who uses that kind of sales talk is a con-man,
and a gardener of Franz's experience knows it.

Yes. The fact that they are trying to sell the stuff does not detract
from
the clarity of the statement vis-a-vis the shelf life. They are
unlikely to
be so clear about it if it was a lie. They would be taken to court
sooner
or later if the statement was untrue or misleading.

This is probably right; but I'd still be inclined to replace the stuff
every year, as I couldn't guarantee the proper storage conditions (I
know you've already mentioned this). A more shameless company would, I
suppose on reflection, recommend this.

I agree.
Here is some more scorn on the company involved:
Their website is one of the worst I have encountered. I think they should
employ a more competent webmaster. Starting from their homepage, I found it
impossible to navigate to any page which dealt with rooting hormones.
Moreover, the email address which they quote in the homepage does not work.
How I hate being at the mercy of the big boys. {:-((

Franz

Franz Heymann


Mike.

Shelf liife of rooting hormone
 

"martin" wrote in message
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On 17 Aug 2003 01:36:03 -0700, (Mike Lyle)
wrote:

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...
"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...
There has been some nonsense spoken in this ng about the putative
shelf
life
of rooting hormones.
The following URL sets the record quite straight, quite
unambiguously
and
without prevarication:

http://www.pbi.co.uk/faq1.asp?productid=9
[...]

That URL is also the one which suggests you should use a rooting
hormone for fuchsia and geranium (I assume = pelargonium) cuttings:
among the very easiest plants to propagate at almost any time of
year.
Not my first port of call as a source of objective horticultural
information. Anybody who uses that kind of sales talk is a con-man,
and a gardener of Franz's experience knows it.

Yes. The fact that they are trying to sell the stuff does not detract
from
the clarity of the statement vis-a-vis the shelf life. They are
unlikely to
be so clear about it if it was a lie. They would be taken to court
sooner
or later if the statement was untrue or misleading.

This is probably right; but I'd still be inclined to replace the stuff
every year, as I couldn't guarantee the proper storage conditions (I
know you've already mentioned this). A more shameless company would, I
suppose on reflection, recommend this.

I have never seen such a recommendation on any product with a
specified shelf life. Isn't it implicit?
Take the contents of our fridge for instance :-)

You should change your supermarket. The first three items I drew at random
out of our fridge all had "use by" dates. {:-))

Franz

Shelf liife of rooting hormone
 

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:22:20 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
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On 17 Aug 2003 01:36:03 -0700, (Mike Lyle)
wrote:

I have never seen such a recommendation on any product with a
specified shelf life. Isn't it implicit?
Take the contents of our fridge for instance :-)

You should change your supermarket. The first three items I drew at random
out of our fridge all had "use by" dates. {:-))
I meant that most of our fridge contains items that have passed their
use by date :-)
--
Martin

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In article ,
(Franz Heymann) wrote:

The following URL sets the record quite straight, quite unambiguously
and without prevarication:

And without peer review

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

Shelf liife of rooting hormone
 

"martin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:22:20 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .
On 17 Aug 2003 01:36:03 -0700, (Mike Lyle)
wrote:

I have never seen such a recommendation on any product with a
specified shelf life. Isn't it implicit?
Take the contents of our fridge for instance :-)

You should change your supermarket. The first three items I drew at
random
out of our fridge all had "use by" dates. {:-))
I meant that most of our fridge contains items that have passed their
use by date :-)

That's correct. It is true for two of the three items I reported on.

Franz
--
Martin

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:11:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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Mike.

You keep forgetting the reply today. Old age creeping up? :-)

I am getting the finger twitches. And with this blasted software, when
you've pushed the "post" button you've had it.
I think I've done it three times today.
I must remember to work off-line until the last moment.
My apologies.

Franz


--
Martin

Shelf liife of rooting hormone
 

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:01:27 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

You keep forgetting the reply today. Old age creeping up? :-)

I am getting the finger twitches. And with this blasted software, when
you've pushed the "post" button you've had it.
I think I've done it three times today.
I must remember to work off-line until the last moment.
My apologies.

no problem I do it myself too!
--
Martin

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I am getting the finger twitches. And with this blasted software, when
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I think I've done it three times today.
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My apologies.

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