Poplar tree - uses
The thanks for the responses regarding the poison - I will have a chat with
the tree surgeon & find out a bit more about the poison issue. Now once the tree has been chopped down - any ideas how usful the wood will be ? The tree is about 10 years old & approx 30 feet high. I am considering some uses fo the wood (although the tree surgeon can take it away). So far I was thinking these possilities. - hiring a shredder to create some mulch - firewood as we have no smoke restrictions Any other ideas ? Thanks in advance. PJ |
Poplar tree - uses
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P&J wrote: The thanks for the responses regarding the poison - I will have a chat with the tree surgeon & find out a bit more about the poison issue. Now once the tree has been chopped down - any ideas how usful the wood will be ? The tree is about 10 years old & approx 30 feet high. I am considering some uses fo the wood (although the tree surgeon can take it away). So far I was thinking these possilities. - hiring a shredder to create some mulch - firewood as we have no smoke restrictions Any other ideas ? Growing edible fungi. It makes bloody awful firewood. When green, it is scarcely self sustaining, smoky and spits. When dry, it burns to nothing in next to no time. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Poplar tree - uses
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , P&J wrote: The thanks for the responses regarding the poison - I will have a chat with the tree surgeon & find out a bit more about the poison issue. Now once the tree has been chopped down - any ideas how usful the wood will be ? The tree is about 10 years old & approx 30 feet high. I am considering some uses fo the wood (although the tree surgeon can take it away). So far I was thinking these possilities. - hiring a shredder to create some mulch - firewood as we have no smoke restrictions Any other ideas ? Growing edible fungi. It makes bloody awful firewood. When green, it is scarcely self sustaining, smoky and spits. When dry, it burns to nothing in next to no time. Poplar was used for brake blocks on horse-drawn vehicles and on the earliest cars and motorcycles. My 1909 Triumph has them, they are more decorative than useful. Earnest |
Poplar tree - uses
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes It makes bloody awful firewood. When green, it is scarcely self sustaining, smoky and spits. When dry, it burns to nothing in next to no time. We've been burning poplar as house fire wood for many years, not because it makes good firing, but because we have a lot of poplars in our hedgerows. Using the wood that way seems a better option than bonfiring it or paying to have it taken away. You are right about its burning properties when either green or dry, but there is a between stage when it can be useful fuel. I cut branches or trunks from about this time of the year, shred the foliage and brushwood, then store the logs for use the following winter. If poplar is burned about 12-18 months after felling, it burns quite well. We mix it with any other logs we happen to have around such as apple, pear cherry-plum, sycamore, fir etc. and they work very well with the slower burning poplar logs. -- Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. |
Poplar tree - uses
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P&J wrote: The thanks for the responses regarding the poison - I will have a chat with the tree surgeon & find out a bit more about the poison issue. Now once the tree has been chopped down - any ideas how usful the wood will be ? The tree is about 10 years old & approx 30 feet high. I am considering some uses fo the wood (although the tree surgeon can take it away). So far I was thinking these possilities. - hiring a shredder to create some mulch Time to mount my trusty hobby-horse again! Used as mulch, timber waste will take nitrogen out of your soil as it rots, and could encourage harmful fungi. It would take ages to rot it in a heap with a bought-in source of nitrogen, so if you haven't got a spare space it may be better to burn it. My last place had a corner where the previous owner sawed his firewood; I scratched it around a bit, but it was a few years before the grass there grew as densely as the patch on the other side of the path. I wouldn't be entirely surprised to find a bit of unrotted sawdust still there just underneath: sometimes they dig up old newspapers from rubbish-dumps and find them still legible after fifty years. Mike. |
Poplar tree - uses
"Mike Lyle" wrote in message om... In article , Snip P&J wrote: The thanks for the responses regarding the poison - I will have a chat with the tree surgeon & find out a bit more about the poison issue. I am considering some uses fo the wood Mike Lyle wrote: Time to mount my trusty hobby-horse again! Snipped A 30ft Poplar tree ? You could knock out a few hobby-horses with it! Jeff |
Poplar tree - uses
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:51:08 +0100, P&J wrote:
Now once the tree has been chopped down - any ideas how usful the wood will be ? The tree is about 10 years old & approx 30 feet high. I am considering some uses fo the wood (although the tree surgeon can take it away). So far I was thinking these possilities. - hiring a shredder to create some mulch - firewood as we have no smoke restrictions Any other ideas ? Poplar wood, like willow, is very pure cellulose with little lignin in it. If you dry it thoroughly -- give it a couple of years' storage under cover -- it will burn with a clear, fast, hot flame. Nice when you want a fire that doesn't leave glowing embers in the fireplace overnight. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada |
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In article , Mike Lyle
writes Time to mount my trusty hobby-horse again! Used as mulch, timber waste will take nitrogen out of your soil as it rots, and could encourage harmful fungi. Are you sure of that point? Fungi tend to be fairly fussy about their requirements, and I wouldn't have thought that most species which would enjoy the rotting wood would be inclined to attack living trees, which is what I presume you mean by 'harmful'? It would take ages to rot it in a heap with a bought-in source of nitrogen, No, it doesn't. In a mixed heap it doesn't slow the process at all. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , Mike Lyle writes Time to mount my trusty hobby-horse again! Used as mulch, timber waste will take nitrogen out of your soil as it rots, and could encourage harmful fungi. Are you sure of that point? Fungi tend to be fairly fussy about their requirements, and I wouldn't have thought that most species which would enjoy the rotting wood would be inclined to attack living trees, which is what I presume you mean by 'harmful'? I said "could", not "will", but I wouldn't risk it. The choice is: throw it away? a bit of reasonable firewood? or a not-very-attractive mulch which at least one other gardener isn't happy about on hygiene grounds? It doesn't feel like good gardening practice to use an unrotted mulch, even if it doesn't, as I fear this could, help honey fungus or something to get a foothold. It would take ages to rot it in a heap with a bought-in source of nitrogen, No, it doesn't. In a mixed heap it doesn't slow the process at all. We're talking about a whole thirty-foot tree, not the litter from the rabbit-hutch! Will there be enough other material to make an effective mixed heap? It can't rot without nitrogen, and that nitrogen must come from somewhere. The bigger the chips the tree is shredded into, the longer the process will take. I'm not just spouting old husbands' tales, I'm trying to be logical. Mike. |
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Mike Lyle wrote: Kay Easton wrote in message ... In article , Mike Lyle writes Time to mount my trusty hobby-horse again! Used as mulch, timber waste will take nitrogen out of your soil as it rots, and could encourage harmful fungi. Are you sure of that point? Fungi tend to be fairly fussy about their requirements, and I wouldn't have thought that most species which would enjoy the rotting wood would be inclined to attack living trees, which is what I presume you mean by 'harmful'? I said "could", not "will", but I wouldn't risk it. The choice is: throw it away? a bit of reasonable firewood? or a not-very-attractive mulch which at least one other gardener isn't happy about on hygiene grounds? It doesn't feel like good gardening practice to use an unrotted mulch, even if it doesn't, as I fear this could, help honey fungus or something to get a foothold. Kay Easton has understated the point. I am not enough of an expert to say that no fungus will attack both wood chips and living wood, but I certainly know of none. And, unless you NEVER allow any twig to fall on your garden, there will always be dead wood in the soil. One of the VERY FEW fungi that is claimed to attack both living and dead wood is coral spot, but it favours young bark and there is actually considerable doubt about whether it will attack living bark anyway. It is possible that it follows other parasites so fast that it gets the blame (much like woodlice do). As far as I know, nobody has ever observed a case where wood chip mulch has bred pathogenic fungi, let alone one where the fungus has consequently attacked a living tree. Worry about something more serious, like an invasion of Martian slime moulds. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Poplar tree - uses
In article , Mike Lyle
writes Kay Easton wrote in message news:XCFUw8K1McU$Ewmx@sc arboro.demon.co.uk... In article , Mike Lyle writes Time to mount my trusty hobby-horse again! Used as mulch, timber waste will take nitrogen out of your soil as it rots, and could encourage harmful fungi. Are you sure of that point? Fungi tend to be fairly fussy about their requirements, and I wouldn't have thought that most species which would enjoy the rotting wood would be inclined to attack living trees, which is what I presume you mean by 'harmful'? I said "could", not "will", but I wouldn't risk it. The choice is: throw it away? a bit of reasonable firewood? or a not-very-attractive mulch which at least one other gardener isn't happy about on hygiene grounds? It doesn't feel like good gardening practice to use an unrotted mulch, even if it doesn't, as I fear this could, help honey fungus or something to get a foothold. How harmful exactly is honey fungus? It's one of our commonest fungi, present in most of our woodland, one of the top 10 fungi most often found on fungus forays. If it were as dangerous as some people say, wouldn't most of our woodland be dead by now? It would take ages to rot it in a heap with a bought-in source of nitrogen, No, it doesn't. In a mixed heap it doesn't slow the process at all. We're talking about a whole thirty-foot tree, not the litter from the rabbit-hutch! Yeah, fair point. I was forgetting that. Will there be enough other material to make an effective mixed heap? It can't rot without nitrogen, and that nitrogen must come from somewhere. The bigger the chips the tree is shredded into, the longer the process will take. I'm not just spouting old husbands' tales, I'm trying to be logical. I'm trying to balance what you're saying against one of the main problems facing our native flora, which is that we've been chucking so much nitrogen around for so many years that our meadows are so rich that many of our native flowers just can't compete. the first step in creating a wildflower meadow is, in most cases, spending several years *reducing* the nitrogen level. OK, you're talking gardening, I'm talking wildflowers - but is reducing the nitrogen level of our gardens really going to be an utter disaster? -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Poplar tree - uses
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from "P&J" contains these words: Now once the tree has been chopped down - any ideas how usful the wood will be ? The tree is about 10 years old & approx 30 feet high. I am considering some uses fo the wood (although the tree surgeon can take it away). So far I was thinking these possilities. - hiring a shredder to create some mulch No. Unsightly and will in time take nitrogen from the soil. Mind you, that would help in suppressing weeds.... - firewood as we have no smoke restrictions Yes, by far the better option. Any other ideas ? Poplar is used to molish the wooden part of matches.... -- Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk exchange d.p. with p to reply. |
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from "Earnest Trawler" contains these words: Poplar was used for brake blocks on horse-drawn vehicles and on the earliest cars and motorcycles. My 1909 Triumph has them, they are more decorative than useful. Must try them as replacement pads on the disc brakes on me BMW R80 -- Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk exchange d.p. with p to reply. |
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from (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words: Poplar wood, like willow, is very pure cellulose with little lignin in it. If you dry it thoroughly -- give it a couple of years' storage under cover -- it will burn with a clear, fast, hot flame. Nice when you want a fire that doesn't leave glowing embers in the fireplace overnight. Or keep it at about 4°C in a mixture of the correct proportions of oleum and spirits of nitre, and your fire will go like a rocket............... -- Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk exchange d.p. with p to reply. |
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Rusty Hinge wrote: The message from "P&J" contains these words: Now once the tree has been chopped down - any ideas how usful the wood will be ? The tree is about 10 years old & approx 30 feet high. I am considering some uses fo the wood (although the tree surgeon can take it away). So far I was thinking these possilities. - hiring a shredder to create some mulch No. Unsightly and will in time take nitrogen from the soil. Mind you, that would help in suppressing weeds.... Only temporarily. It will then restore it. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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