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"martin" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:01:02 GMT, "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote: Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! any suggestions throw them at politicians? Long range recommended if throwing at Prescott. Fortunately he's a big enough target. Steve |
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shazzbat wrote: "martin" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:01:02 GMT, "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote: Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! any suggestions throw them at politicians? Long range recommended if throwing at Prescott. Fortunately he's a big enough target. Steve Yep I'd agree with that, the punches the guy throws might hurt a little more than a tomato! cheers Jason |
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From: dommy Date: 02/09/03 22:14 Romance Daylight Time Message-id: m Phil & Diane Martin wrote: *Help,,,,,,,,,,,,too many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! any suggestions * compost them :) -- dommy ------------------------------------------------------------ .........and next year weed out the new tomato plants that will spring up everywhere.... ;-) Phil |
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:01:02 GMT, "Phil & Diane Martin"
wrote: Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! any suggestions - Gazpacho soup - Cut in half and dry in the oven - Remove any remaining small ones on the plants so what's left has a chance of ripening better. - Prepare for all the things you can do with Green Tomatoes!! - More chutney - Green tomato curry - Green Tomato crumble (with bacon - delicious) Colin ----- (Sorry - no direct email. Please reply via the newsgroup) |
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Throw them at yourself -
YOU grew them and now YOU blame politicians - JEEEEEEEZE - the British public are 100 times worse than the British politicians !!!!!!! On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:07:40 +0100, "shazzbat" wrote: "martin" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:01:02 GMT, "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote: Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! any suggestions throw them at politicians? Long range recommended if throwing at Prescott. Fortunately he's a big enough target. Steve |
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"Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ... Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! any suggestions Hi I have read all the idiot replies.. Like you I have had an a very heavy crop this year of Shirley tomatoes. I do not like them after they have been frozen. Chutney perhaps later with the green ones.We have made some very tasty tomatoe soup from a recipe picked up from this newsgroup. Make more soup, winter is upon us. Should we plant fewer plants next year.? |
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"Peter Coddington" peter (No wrote in message ... "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ... Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! any suggestions Hi I have read all the idiot replies.. Like you I have had an a very heavy crop this year of Shirley tomatoes. I do not like them after they have been frozen. Chutney perhaps later with the green ones.We have made some very tasty tomatoe soup from a recipe picked up from this newsgroup. Make more soup, winter is upon us. Should we plant fewer plants next year.? But what will you then do with the glut of whatever which you will grow in the spaces left by the missing tomatoes? Franz |
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"Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ... Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! any suggestions Start a compost bin. Amateur vegetable growers frequently suffer from overproduction Franz |
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wrote in message ... Throw them at yourself - YOU grew them and now YOU blame politicians - JEEEEEEEZE - the British public are 100 times worse than the British politicians !!!!!!! If you had not top posted I would have known what you were talking about. And if you had not mangled the headers I would have known who you were responding to. Franz |
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Phil & Diane Martin wrote:
: Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato : soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more chutney!!!!!!!!!! : any suggestions bottle them, either whole or chopped. |
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:49:20 +0100, (sw) wrote: If they've got good flavour, make tomato ketchup. I'm going to have to *buy* tomatoes to make more :-/ Recipe please Sarah! Pam in Bristol Also Peter in West yorkshire. |
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"Franz Heymann" pushed briefly to
the front of the queue on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:24:37 +0000 (UTC), and nailed this to the shed door: ^ "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ^ ... ^ Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato ^ soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more ^ chutney!!!!!!!!!! ^ any suggestions ^ ^ Start a compost bin. ^ Amateur vegetable growers frequently suffer from overproduction Ah. Any /professional/ tips on how I might avoid this error in future? Andy -- "No, you claim the magpie is to blame for all the worlds ills, based on your ignorance of magpies." (4a7391c12e538ef306d33d71c9482221@TeraNews) |
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"Andy Spragg" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" pushed briefly to the front of the queue on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:24:37 +0000 (UTC), and nailed this to the shed door: ^ "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ^ ... ^ Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato ^ soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more ^ chutney!!!!!!!!!! ^ any suggestions ^ ^ Start a compost bin. ^ Amateur vegetable growers frequently suffer from overproduction Ah. Any /professional/ tips on how I might avoid this error in future? (1) Invest in a neighbour who overproduces chronically, thas saving you from following suit (2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full cost-benefit analysis. Franz |
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: ~ ~"Andy Spragg" wrote in message ... ~ "Franz Heymann" pushed briefly to ~ the front of the queue on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:24:37 +0000 (UTC), and ~ nailed this to the shed door: ~ ~ ^ "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ~ ^ ... ~ ~ ^ Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato ~ ^ soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more ~ ^ chutney!!!!!!!!!! ~ ^ any suggestions ~ ^ ~ ^ Start a compost bin. ~ ^ Amateur vegetable growers frequently suffer from overproduction ~ ~ Ah. Any /professional/ tips on how I might avoid this error in future? ~(1) Invest in a neighbour who overproduces chronically, thas saving you ~from following suit ~(2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full ~cost-benefit analysis. ~ 'tis maybe so, *but* if you add in the cost of a gym membership to get all the exercise you would otherwise get digging and maintaining a veg plot, it's a heck of a lot cheaper to grow your own!!! Plus you always know what's gone into homegrown veg... and they really do taste better. :-) Half-wish I had a glut of tomatoes - but then that's why I grow 'em in hanging baskets... never get too many. -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full cost-benefit analysis. No it jolly well isn't! Can you justify? Pam in Bristol |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: ~ ~"Andy Spragg" wrote in message ... ~ "Franz Heymann" pushed briefly to ~ the front of the queue on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:24:37 +0000 (UTC), and ~ nailed this to the shed door: ~ ~ ^ "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ~ ^ ... ~ ~ ^ Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato ~ ^ soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more ~ ^ chutney!!!!!!!!!! ~ ^ any suggestions ~ ^ ~ ^ Start a compost bin. ~ ^ Amateur vegetable growers frequently suffer from overproduction ~ ~ Ah. Any /professional/ tips on how I might avoid this error in future? ~(1) Invest in a neighbour who overproduces chronically, thas saving you ~from following suit ~(2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full ~cost-benefit analysis. ~ 'tis maybe so, *but* if you add in the cost of a gym membership to get all the exercise you would otherwise get digging and maintaining a veg plot, it's a heck of a lot cheaper to grow your own!!! You have a point. Plus you always know what's gone into homegrown veg... and they really do taste better. :-) With all respect to my neighbour, whose tomatoes, cabbages and broccoli are always welcome, they taste no better than the organically grown veggies we buy. Half-wish I had a glut of tomatoes - but then that's why I grow 'em in hanging baskets... never get too many. Hey, I might consider growing one or two in a 2 ft 6 in pot housing a Banksia rose against a South wall. What variety do you grow like that? Whose seed do you use? When and where do you start the seeds off? Franz |
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full cost-benefit analysis. No it jolly well isn't! Can you justify? Before I started losing my marbles, I could command upwards of £20 per hour for consulting work. I could not possibly generate £20 worth of vegetables in an hour's work. Pam in Bristol |
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In article , Franz Heymann notfranz.
writes "Andy Spragg" wrote in message ... Ah. Any /professional/ tips on how I might avoid this error in future? (1) Invest in a neighbour who overproduces chronically, thas saving you from following suit (2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full cost-benefit analysis. It's true! You pay an awful lot for the flavour. Fruit is a much better bet. Costs a lot in the shops, you can produce it in abundance, and it's a lot less work than veg. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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(2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full
cost-benefit analysis. It's true! You pay an awful lot for the flavour. Fruit is a much better bet. Costs a lot in the shops, you can produce it in abundance, and it's a lot less work than veg. Most veg are very easy to grow, especially tomatoes. What you grow is fresher and tastier and you know its origin. I wouldn't buy anything I can grow easily. But we prefer vegetables to fruit anyway .. Mary -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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(2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full
cost-benefit analysis. It's true! You pay an awful lot for the flavour. Fruit is a much better bet. Costs a lot in the shops, you can produce it in abundance, and it's a lot less work than veg. Most veg are very easy to grow, especially tomatoes. What you grow is fresher and tastier and you know its origin. I wouldn't buy anything I can grow easily. But we prefer vegetables to fruit anyway .. Mary -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , Mary Fisher
writes (2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full cost-benefit analysis. It's true! You pay an awful lot for the flavour. Fruit is a much better bet. Costs a lot in the shops, you can produce it in abundance, and it's a lot less work than veg. Most veg are very easy to grow, especially tomatoes. !! I don't have sympathy with tomato plants. I can't sense their needs ;-) What you grow is fresher and tastier and you know its origin. I wouldn't buy anything I can grow easily. The money I save from growing fruit allows me to buy organic veg But we prefer vegetables to fruit anyway .. Ah .. I'm the other way around. Except for potatoes, and there's no way I can grow enough of those to keep us through the year. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:34:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: ~ wrote in message ... ~ On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" ~ wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~"Andy Spragg" wrote in message ~ ... ~ ~ "Franz Heymann" pushed briefly to ~ ~ the front of the queue on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:24:37 +0000 (UTC), and ~ ~ nailed this to the shed door: ~ ~ ~ ~ ^ "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ~ ~ ^ ... ~ ~ ~ ~ ^ Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato ~ ~ ^ soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more ~ ~ ^ chutney!!!!!!!!!! ~ ~ ^ any suggestions ~ ~ ^ ~ ~ ^ Start a compost bin. ~ ~ ^ Amateur vegetable growers frequently suffer from overproduction ~ ~ ~ ~ Ah. Any /professional/ tips on how I might avoid this error in future? ~ ~(1) Invest in a neighbour who overproduces chronically, thas saving you ~ ~from following suit ~ ~(2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full ~ ~cost-benefit analysis. ~ ~ ~ 'tis maybe so, *but* if you add in the cost of a gym membership to get ~ all the exercise you would otherwise get digging and maintaining a veg ~ plot, it's a heck of a lot cheaper to grow your own!!! ~ ~You have a point. ~ ~ Plus you always know what's gone into homegrown veg... and they really ~ do taste better. ~ ~ :-) ~ ~With all respect to my neighbour, whose tomatoes, cabbages and broccoli are ~always welcome, they taste no better than the organically grown veggies we ~buy. Ah but you buy *organic*. They already have one advantage! After three years of exhaustive and very critical testing (ie my mother :) we have come to the conclusion that homegrown carrots are totally different as the water content of home-growns is much much less than commercial organic or non-organic, so they have less of a storage life before going shrivelled, but you get the taste concentration at the same time. Onions are crisper and ditto for taste (though you may not want stronger onions!!!!) and soft fruit, especially raspberries are unbashed and wonderful. True, the latter can be picked at a PYO but then you forego the organic option, usually. Fairly sure my local one isn't. Potatoes too are much nicer when just dug with the added advantage of being able to choose a variety that is really tasty. Sweetcorn can be picked and eaten fast enough to retain its flavour. Runner beans do taste the same to me but you get to pick them when they are small enough to have no strings rather than huge grown-for-size things that you have chuck half away... Everything else you can get equivalents for in the supermarkets which taste similar to homegrown. I'll not willingly stop growing carrots* or onions, even if I do have to fight off the dreaded carrot fly! * I grew Amsterdam forcing indoors in a large plant pot of John Innes between January and May. Easy! Tempted to plant some more this week so I can have fresh ones at Christmas... ~ ~ Half-wish I had a glut of tomatoes - but then that's why I grow 'em in ~ hanging baskets... never get too many. ~ ~Hey, I might consider growing one or two in a 2 ft 6 in pot housing a ~Banksia rose against a South wall. What variety do you grow like that? ~Whose seed do you use? ~When and where do you start the seeds off? (consults diary) Suttons Tumbler F1 (Cherry tomatoes). Don't grow the newer Tumbling Tom - grew 'em last year and they were dreadful in comparison. The seeds seem expensive - 2 quid a packet of seven, but given tubs of cherry toms are a quid each and six plants will give you way more than this, they do work well. Two years ago I got 7lbs off on one day (though poor things had just got blight and I had to work fast). Sowed them 2nd week April inside. Can be sown earlier but I don't want them too big before the frost clear date cos they need to grow compact rather than leggy. Three in a 12" basket do very well, and the fruit are heart-shaped - have little points at the bottom! Maybe not as sweet as Gardeners' Delight but still pretty darn good. And pretty! Good luck! -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
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from Kay Easton contains these words: Ah .. I'm the other way around. Except for potatoes, and there's no way I can grow enough of those to keep us through the year. You may notice the space-saving spud-growing tip I gleaned from GQT somewhere around. If not, I'll repeat it for you. -- Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk exchange d.p. with p to reply. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:34:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: ~ wrote in message ... ~ On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" ~ wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~"Andy Spragg" wrote in message ~ ... ~ ~ "Franz Heymann" pushed briefly to ~ ~ the front of the queue on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:24:37 +0000 (UTC), and ~ ~ nailed this to the shed door: ~ ~ ~ ~ ^ "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ~ ~ ^ ... ~ ~ ~ ~ ^ Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato ~ ~ ^ soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more ~ ~ ^ chutney!!!!!!!!!! ~ ~ ^ any suggestions ~ ~ ^ ~ ~ ^ Start a compost bin. ~ ~ ^ Amateur vegetable growers frequently suffer from overproduction ~ ~ ~ ~ Ah. Any /professional/ tips on how I might avoid this error in future? ~ ~(1) Invest in a neighbour who overproduces chronically, thas saving you ~ ~from following suit ~ ~(2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a full ~ ~cost-benefit analysis. ~ ~ ~ 'tis maybe so, *but* if you add in the cost of a gym membership to get ~ all the exercise you would otherwise get digging and maintaining a veg ~ plot, it's a heck of a lot cheaper to grow your own!!! ~ ~You have a point. ~ ~ Plus you always know what's gone into homegrown veg... and they really ~ do taste better. ~ ~ :-) ~ ~With all respect to my neighbour, whose tomatoes, cabbages and broccoli are ~always welcome, they taste no better than the organically grown veggies we ~buy. Ah but you buy *organic*. They already have one advantage! After three years of exhaustive and very critical testing (ie my mother :) we have come to the conclusion that homegrown carrots are totally different as the water content of home-growns is much much less than commercial organic or non-organic, so they have less of a storage life before going shrivelled, but you get the taste concentration at the same time. I take it that you do not eat boiled carrots? Once treated in boiling water, the initial water content is surely pretty irrelevant? Onions are crisper and ditto for taste (though you may not want stronger onions!!!!) The stronger and rawer the better. and soft fruit, especially raspberries are unbashed and wonderful. That is probably because commercial soft fruit are frequently varieties which are selected for appearance rather than flavour. I remember the days when one could actually smell the strawberries on display at Chelsea. True, the latter can be picked at a PYO but then you forego the organic option, usually. Fairly sure my local one isn't. Potatoes too are much nicer when just dug with the added advantage of being able to choose a variety that is really tasty. We have that advantage at Sainsbury's. They stock a large range of varieties, including Charlottes, which are supreme. Sweetcorn can be picked and eaten fast enough to retain its flavour. One meal per year of this is sufficient. Not worth growing just for that. Runner beans do taste the same to me but you get to pick them when they are small enough to have no strings rather than huge grown-for-size things that you have chuck half away... The supermarket beans we buy have no strings and a good flavour. Everything else you can get equivalents for in the supermarkets which taste similar to homegrown. I'll not willingly stop growing carrots* or onions, even if I do have to fight off the dreaded carrot fly! * I grew Amsterdam forcing indoors in a large plant pot of John Innes between January and May. Easy! Tempted to plant some more this week so I can have fresh ones at Christmas... [snip] Franz |
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Top comment: How the heck do I prune this one? :-)
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:13:18 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: wrote in message ~ On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:34:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" ~ wrote: ~ ~ ~ wrote: ~ ~ On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" ~ ~ wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~"Andy Spragg" wrote: ~ ~ ~ "Franz Heymann" pushed briefly to ~ ~ ~ the front of the queue on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:24:37 +0000 (UTC), and ~ ~ ~ nailed this to the shed door: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ^ "Phil & Diane Martin" wrote in message ~ ~ ~ ^ ... ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ^ Help,,,,,,,,,,,,to many tomatoes,,,,,,,,,freezer full of tomato ~ ~ ~ ^ soup,,,,,,,neighbours sick of tomatoes,,,,,,,,,,,,no more ~ ~ ~ ^ chutney!!!!!!!!!! ~ ~ ~ ^ any suggestions ~ ~ ~ ^ ~ ~ ~ ^ Start a compost bin. ~ ~ ~ ^ Amateur vegetable growers frequently suffer from overproduction ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Ah. Any /professional/ tips on how I might avoid this error in ~future? ~ ~ ~(1) Invest in a neighbour who overproduces chronically, thas saving ~you ~ ~ ~from following suit ~ ~ ~(2) Buy your vegetables. It is much cheaper that way, if you do a ~full ~ ~ ~cost-benefit analysis. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 'tis maybe so, *but* if you add in the cost of a gym membership to get ~ ~ all the exercise you would otherwise get digging and maintaining a veg ~ ~ plot, it's a heck of a lot cheaper to grow your own!!! ~ ~ ~ ~You have a point. ~ ~ ~ ~ Plus you always know what's gone into homegrown veg... and they really ~ ~ do taste better. ~ ~ ~ ~ :-) ~ ~ ~ ~With all respect to my neighbour, whose tomatoes, cabbages and broccoli ~are ~ ~always welcome, they taste no better than the organically grown veggies ~we ~ ~buy. ~ ~ Ah but you buy *organic*. They already have one advantage! ~ ~ After three years of exhaustive and very critical testing (ie my ~ mother :) we have come to the conclusion that homegrown carrots are ~ totally different as the water content of home-growns is much much ~ less than commercial organic or non-organic, so they have less of a ~ storage life before going shrivelled, but you get the taste ~ concentration at the same time. ~ ~I take it that you do not eat boiled carrots? Once treated in boiling ~water, the initial water content is surely pretty irrelevant? Come to think of it, no I don't. Raw in coleslaw, baked batons in garlic butter in foil for roast dinners, stir fried pieces... don't boil them at all! ~ Onions are crisper and ditto for taste (though you may not want ~ stronger onions!!!!) ~ ~The stronger and rawer the better. I think I've outdone my SO this year - even he can't peel them without crying.... ~ ~ and soft fruit, especially raspberries are ~ unbashed and wonderful. ~ ~That is probably because commercial soft fruit are frequently varieties ~which are selected for appearance rather than flavour. True. Bush and tree fruit is def worth growing because it's hardly any effort and arrives most years as a kind of gift. Blackbirds permitting! ~I remember the days when one could actually smell the strawberries on ~display at Chelsea. ~ ~ True, the latter can be picked at a PYO but ~ then you forego the organic option, usually. Fairly sure my local one ~ isn't. ~ Potatoes too are much nicer when just dug with the added advantage of ~ being able to choose a variety that is really tasty. ~ ~We have that advantage at Sainsbury's. They stock a large range of ~varieties, including Charlottes, which are supreme Still not quite as large as the growers' options. I rarely go to JS now as they are nowhere near as good as they used to be. Pity. Our local one has minimal numbers of people on tills at any time, so you always have to queue, even if it's 10pm. So I go to Waitrose next door where they actually *do* open more tills if needed... ~ Sweetcorn can be ~ picked and eaten fast enough to retain its flavour. ~One meal per year of this is sufficient. Not worth growing just for that. I have now got a nice fat freezer drawer of cobs. Yum. ~ Runner beans do taste the same to me but you get to pick them when ~ they are small enough to have no strings rather than huge ~ grown-for-size things that you have chuck half away... ~ ~The supermarket beans we buy have no strings and a good flavour. Lucky you. Every time I resort to Waitrose beans I always find a good proportion of stringy ones. Luckily for the past 4 years I've had enough out of the garden to have loads in the freezer. Bit thin this, but that's the heat for you. I think we can agree that to be worth it, it needs to be fun for the grower or it becomes a chore. It's also not worth it if the things you feel you can grow better are not things you normally eat. If you have to give away most of your marrows, say, why grow them? I have had my broccoli fail this year thanks to birds (grrrr), but won't have to buy most other veg *that I eat* for months and perhaps not at all, which I think is the best situation. I personally won't grow sprouts, broad beans or parsnips cos I loathe 'em. No point. sorry folks - thread getting a bit long... -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
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wrote in message ... [snip] I think we can agree that to be worth it, it needs to be fun for the grower or it becomes a chore. It's also not worth it if the things you feel you can grow better are not things you normally eat. If you have to give away most of your marrows, say, why grow them? I have had my broccoli fail this year thanks to birds (grrrr), but won't have to buy most other veg *that I eat* for months and perhaps not at all, which I think is the best situation. A more or less global "yes" to that paragraph. At the root of my feelings about vegetable gardening is a deep seated tendency to be a lazy gardener. [snip] Franz |
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In article , Franz Heymann
writes wrote in message ... After three years of exhaustive and very critical testing (ie my mother :) we have come to the conclusion that homegrown carrots are totally different as the water content of home-growns is much much less than commercial organic or non-organic, so they have less of a storage life before going shrivelled, but you get the taste concentration at the same time. I take it that you do not eat boiled carrots? Once treated in boiling water, the initial water content is surely pretty irrelevant? I notice that organic carrots shrivel on storage (and can be revived by soaking in water) whereas supermarket carrots rot :-( -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , martin
writes On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:04:36 +0100, Rusty Hinge wrote: The message from Kay Easton contains these words: Ah .. I'm the other way around. Except for potatoes, and there's no way I can grow enough of those to keep us through the year. You may notice the space-saving spud-growing tip I gleaned from GQT somewhere around. If not, I'll repeat it for you. interleaved with the rose bushes? Difficult! The rose bushes are interleaved with everything else. I can only plant something if I dig up something else to make room for it. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , Rusty Hinge
writes The message from Kay Easton contains these words: Ah .. I'm the other way around. Except for potatoes, and there's no way I can grow enough of those to keep us through the year. You may notice the space-saving spud-growing tip I gleaned from GQT somewhere around. If not, I'll repeat it for you. It still doesn't help! I eat a *lot* of potatoes. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes wrote in message ... After three years of exhaustive and very critical testing (ie my mother :) we have come to the conclusion that homegrown carrots are totally different as the water content of home-growns is much much less than commercial organic or non-organic, so they have less of a storage life before going shrivelled, but you get the taste concentration at the same time. I take it that you do not eat boiled carrots? Once treated in boiling water, the initial water content is surely pretty irrelevant? I notice that organic carrots shrivel on storage (and can be revived by soaking in water) whereas supermarket carrots rot :-( In this house, carrots never lie around for long enough for that difference to be observed. {:-)) Franz |
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from martin contains these words: On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:04:36 +0100, Rusty Hinge wrote: The message from Kay Easton contains these words: Ah .. I'm the other way around. Except for potatoes, and there's no way I can grow enough of those to keep us through the year. You may notice the space-saving spud-growing tip I gleaned from GQT somewhere around. If not, I'll repeat it for you. interleaved with the rose bushes? Pass. -- Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk exchange d.p. with p to reply. |
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from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Rusty Hinge writes The message from Kay Easton contains these words: Ah .. I'm the other way around. Except for potatoes, and there's no way I can grow enough of those to keep us through the year. You may notice the space-saving spud-growing tip I gleaned from GQT somewhere around. If not, I'll repeat it for you. It still doesn't help! I eat a *lot* of potatoes. Get a *lot* of plastic drums and compost? -- Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk exchange d.p. with p to reply. |
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Rusty Hinge writes The message from Kay Easton contains these words: Ah .. I'm the other way around. Except for potatoes, and there's no way I can grow enough of those to keep us through the year. You may notice the space-saving spud-growing tip I gleaned from GQT somewhere around. If not, I'll repeat it for you. It still doesn't help! I eat a *lot* of potatoes. Try rice instead. If you put too much Worcester sauce on rice, you can make it taste just like minced meat with too much Worcester sauce. Franz |
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