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tony 14-09-2003 09:03 PM

Raspberry problem.
 
I have been growing raspberrys for 3 years. the first year i had a good
crop, the 2nd was fair but this year not very good. i tend to get fruit on
only certain branches but i have loads of new shoots coming up all the time.
is it a pruning problem? any advise would be welcome.



Dwayne 15-09-2003 04:02 AM

Raspberry problem.
 
I have never had raspberries, but I know that blackberries musts have the
bearing canes cut off when done bearing. Then the new canes will bear the
following year. When you cut them off, destroy them preferably by burning.
They could contain harmful pests and diseases.

Some raspberry growers say they cut them to the ground after they finish
harvesting the fruit, but that idea kind of scares me. Maybe it is a
different kind of raspberries.

Dwayne

"tony" wrote in message
...
I have been growing raspberrys for 3 years. the first year i had a good
crop, the 2nd was fair but this year not very good. i tend to get fruit on
only certain branches but i have loads of new shoots coming up all the

time.
is it a pruning problem? any advise would be welcome.





Alan Gould 15-09-2003 06:02 AM

Raspberry problem.
 
In article , Dwayne
writes
I have never had raspberries, but I know that blackberries musts have the
bearing canes cut off when done bearing. Then the new canes will bear the
following year. When you cut them off, destroy them preferably by burning.
They could contain harmful pests and diseases.

Some raspberry growers say they cut them to the ground after they finish
harvesting the fruit, but that idea kind of scares me. Maybe it is a
different kind of raspberries.

Yes, that is the correct way to treat raspberries Dwayne. By the time
the canes which have borne fruit are ready to cut out, new canes should
have appeared which should be left in to produce next year's fruit. It
may be as well to restrict the new canes to 5 or 6 if there are a lot of
them, or some new canes be taken as side-shoots if additional bushes are
required. The same applies to autumn fruiting raspberries, though
sometimes they may be left until the following spring to be pruned.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

Victoria Clare 15-09-2003 12:05 PM

Raspberry problem.
 
"tony" wrote in
:

I have been growing raspberrys for 3 years. the first year i had a
good crop, the 2nd was fair but this year not very good. i tend to get
fruit on only certain branches but i have loads of new shoots coming
up all the time. is it a pruning problem? any advise would be welcome.


As well as pruning (follow Alan's advice!), are you feeding them? I find
raspbs respond well to a good mulch, and that also helps keep the weeds
down.

I prune mine after they have finished fruiting, and just cut out anything
that looks tatty or has old fruit sprays on it. Seems to work.

Victoria


Jonathan Ward 15-09-2003 01:22 PM

Raspberry problem.
 
In article ,
says...

In article , Dwayne
writes
I have never had raspberries, but I know that blackberries musts have the
bearing canes cut off when done bearing. Then the new canes will bear the
following year. When you cut them off, destroy them preferably by burning.
They could contain harmful pests and diseases.

Some raspberry growers say they cut them to the ground after they finish
harvesting the fruit, but that idea kind of scares me. Maybe it is a
different kind of raspberries.

Yes, that is the correct way to treat raspberries Dwayne. By the time
the canes which have borne fruit are ready to cut out, new canes should
have appeared which should be left in to produce next year's fruit. It
may be as well to restrict the new canes to 5 or 6 if there are a lot of
them, or some new canes be taken as side-shoots if additional bushes are
required. The same applies to autumn fruiting raspberries, though
sometimes they may be left until the following spring to be pruned.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.


Autumn-fruiting rasberries fruit on that year's growth unlike the summer
varieties, which fruit on the previous year's growth. All the stems on the
autumn fruiting varieties can be cut to the ground over the winter.
--
Jonathan Ward
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Tim Challenger 15-09-2003 02:12 PM

Raspberry problem.
 
Autumn-fruiting rasberries fruit on that year's growth unlike the summer
varieties, which fruit on the previous year's growth. All the stems on the
autumn fruiting varieties can be cut to the ground over the winter.


I have a similar question:
I inherited a few autumn fruiting raspberry "twigs" last year with the new
house. They are a yellow variety(Autumn Bliss?). Anyway, they were pretty
weedy things and I cut them all back to the ground last autumn. This year
they have produced really good shoots - around 1.5m long or more, but only
a few of which have produced fruit (and those that did produced a good
number, and loads more than last year's poor crop).

So should I still cut all the growth down this year - even those shoots
that didn't fruit - or should I leave some standing? Any ideas?
--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

Jaques d'Altrades 15-09-2003 02:42 PM

Raspberry problem.
 
The message . 12
from Victoria Clare contains these words:

As well as pruning (follow Alan's advice!), are you feeding them? I find
raspbs respond well to a good mulch, and that also helps keep the weeds
down.


I prune mine after they have finished fruiting, and just cut out anything
that looks tatty or has old fruit sprays on it. Seems to work.


Also, raspberries need a certain amount of manganese, and if your soil
is deficient in it (as some parts of East Anglia are) the leaves are
yellowish and look a bit as if they're infected with the mosaic virus.

You can get foliar feeds and other supplements containing manganese -
you don't need much.

--
Rusty Hinge
No m'lud, it wasn't a sneg. My joints creak.

Steve Harris 16-09-2003 12:46 AM

Raspberry problem.
 
In article m,
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" (Tim Challenger) wrote:

I inherited a few autumn fruiting raspberry "twigs" last year with
the new house. They are a yellow variety(Autumn Bliss?).


"Fall Gold" perhaps. Autumn Bliss are red.

According to Hessayon, autumn fruiting raspberry pruning is simple - cut
all stems down to the ground in February.

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

Tim Challenger 16-09-2003 09:19 AM

Raspberry problem.
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40 +0100 (BST), Steve Harris wrote:

In article m,
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" (Tim Challenger) wrote:


I inherited a few autumn fruiting raspberry "twigs" last year with
the new house. They are a yellow variety(Autumn Bliss?).


"Fall Gold" perhaps. Autumn Bliss are red.


According to Hessayon, autumn fruiting raspberry pruning is simple - cut
all stems down to the ground in February.


Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com


Thanks Steve, I wasn't too sure. I'll do that then. At least I'm pretty
sure it can't hurt them.

I don't know the name of the variety, but it could well be Fall Gold. Large
sweet ones, with little real raspberry taste, which turn an orange if left
just a little too long.
--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

Tim Challenger 16-09-2003 09:25 AM

Raspberry problem.
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40 +0100 (BST), Steve Harris wrote:

In article m,
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" (Tim Challenger) wrote:


I inherited a few autumn fruiting raspberry "twigs" last year with
the new house. They are a yellow variety(Autumn Bliss?).


"Fall Gold" perhaps. Autumn Bliss are red.


According to Hessayon, autumn fruiting raspberry pruning is simple - cut
all stems down to the ground in February.


Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com


Thanks Steve, I wasn't too sure. I'll do that then. At least I'm pretty
sure it can't hurt them.

I don't know the name of the variety, but it could well be Fall Gold. Large
sweet ones, with little real raspberry taste, which turn an orange if left
just a little too long.
--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

Peter Goddard 17-09-2003 08:43 AM

Raspberry problem.
 
,snip Thanks Steve, I wasn't too sure. I'll do that then. At least I'm
pretty
sure it can't hurt them.

snip. Large sweet ones, with little real raspberry taste, which turn an
orange if left
just a little too long.


Sorry to join the thread so late:
I inherited a clump of raspberries on a plot of overgrown land. I cut them
back hard and after two years the new canes were reaching more than six feet
and producing a heavy crop. (Lots of Pavlovas, home-made ice cream and a
freezer full to boot)
BUT.... at the same time I planted a double row of Glen Magna. There is no
comparison at all when it comes to flavour or yield - the Magna are
magnificent, the older raspberries bland and disappointing. I gather that
after ten years or so this can happen and the canes should be replaced.
I am currently waiting for autumn when I will dig up the older canes for my
neighbour to plant - they produce plenty of fruit but I'm going to spoil
myself with some Glen Ample and Autumn Bliss to extend the season with
better flavoured varieties.



Christopher Norton 17-09-2003 10:13 AM

Raspberry problem.
 
The message m
from Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" contains
these words:


Thanks Steve, I wasn't too sure. I'll do that then. At least I'm pretty
sure it can't hurt them.


I don't know the name of the variety, but it could well be Fall Gold. Large
sweet ones, with little real raspberry taste, which turn an orange if left
just a little too long.
--
Tim.


If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.


If in complete doubt and you can live with a poorish crop next year.
Leave one with this years wood on and one cut right back. Then you`ll
know which is the better way due to the yield.

--
email farmer chris on
Please don`t use
as it`s a spam haven.

Tim Challenger 17-09-2003 10:13 AM

Raspberry problem.
 
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:14:57 +0100, Christopher Norton wrote:

The message m
from Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" contains
these words:



Thanks Steve, I wasn't too sure. I'll do that then. At least I'm pretty
sure it can't hurt them.


I don't know the name of the variety, but it could well be Fall Gold. Large
sweet ones, with little real raspberry taste, which turn an orange if left
just a little too long.
--
Tim.


If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.


If in complete doubt and you can live with a poorish crop next year.
Leave one with this years wood on and one cut right back. Then you`ll
know which is the better way due to the yield.


There's always that, of course. Suck it and see. ;-)
I think I'll leave one plant with some old (this year's) growth on just to
see, and cut all the others back as normal.

--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

Pam Moore 17-09-2003 07:13 PM

Raspberry problem.
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:03:08 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

Autumn-fruiting rasberries fruit on that year's growth unlike the summer
varieties, which fruit on the previous year's growth. All the stems on the
autumn fruiting varieties can be cut to the ground over the winter.


I have both Summer and Autumn fruiting raspberries. (The latter are
Autumn Bliss which are NOT YELLOW.)
Last year the summer ones spred too much and I intended digging them
out. So I cut all of them, both varieties, down to the ground during
the winter.
I am now picking loads of fruit off both sorts.
I don't know if it will work with all summer fruiting ones but has
certainly proved successful this year.

Pam in Bristol

Jaques d'Altrades 17-09-2003 10:16 PM

Raspberry problem.
 
The message
from Pam Moore contains these words:

/snip/
So I cut all of them, both varieties, down to the ground during
the winter.
I am now picking loads of fruit off both sorts.
I don't know if it will work with all summer fruiting ones but has
certainly proved successful this year.


To a greater or lesser extent. Most can be treated either as summer or
as autumn-fruiting, but obviously, the ones developed for a specific
season do better than ones not developed for it.

--
Rusty Hinge
No m'lud, it wasn't a sneg. My joints creak.


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