On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:54:19 UTC, (Huge) wrote:

"Bob Eager" writes:

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3) Stuff ISO - standards committees are often a waste of time

That'll be why your internet connection works, will it?

Exactly. Doesn't use the ISO seven-layer model, but something invented
long before by practitioners, not ISO...I had that in mind when I said
it.

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Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325*4; PS/2s 9585, 8595, 9595*2, 8580*3,
P70...

"Stephen Kellett" wrote in message
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In message , Tim Ward
writes
out what it means? Or is this a deliberate political statement about
the
status of Northern Ireland?

What?

I'm trying to work out why someone should invent "UKP" in preference to
using the ISO standard "GBP". That was the only explanation I could come
up
with, Northern Ireland being in UK but not in GB, I thought that perhaps
someone who wanted to make a political statement about Northern Ireland
being part of the UK would object to using "GBP". Can you think of any
other
reason for inventing "UKP"?

Good grief Tim, you are over-analysing way too much. I've seen UKP used
before, it hasn't been invented to make a political stand.

But someone must have invented it for some reason.

It makes no sense to go round inventing currency codes when there are
already perfectly good standard ones - write an invented private one of your
own on a bank document, for example, and it won't work. I guess people do
rather less of this in everyday life now that cash cards have replaced
Eurocheques, so not everybody carries the leaflet with the codes in their
wallet any more, but the things are still in common enough usage that one
can be expected to know the code for one's own currency!

So, despite the existence of "GBP" which has unambiguous meaning worldwide
on any documents written in any language, someone goes and invents "UKP",
which on the day they invented it meant nothing to anybody other than
themselves. Why??

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Brett Ward Ltd - www.brettward.co.uk
Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb
Cambridge City Councillor

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:52:01 +0100, "Tim Ward" wrote:

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So, despite the existence of "GBP" which has unambiguous meaning worldwide
on any documents written in any language, someone goes and invents "UKP",
which on the day they invented it meant nothing to anybody other than
themselves.

UKPE-BAYOBIRI: a language of Nigeria
SIL code: UKP

http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=UKP

:-) J


Why??

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Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear
Brett Ward Ltd - www.brettward.co.uk
Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb
Cambridge City Councillor

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:04:55 +0100, "Tim Ward"
wrote:


I'm trying to work out why someone should invent "UKP" in preference to
using the ISO standard "GBP".

Because the ISO are looking to charge for use of such codes, and it's
not worth the risking the licensing costs?

Jim.

"..........Some servers will strip the Some servers will strip the
characters and replace them with blanks,
some sill simply drop that particular post on the floor.

Since you're a gardener, the best response is probably "there, there,
don't you worry it's a bit technical."

Pity they don't strip sarcastic characters, especially those that cant even
spell but rely totally on spell checker........."some sill simply" Must be
nice to be so intelligent.

And for your information to be a modern "Gardener " you have to be a
builder, a plumber, a gas fitter, a chemist, a botanist, an entomologist and
be willing to work up to 15 hours a day in season and 7 days a week.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

"...... I am thinking about getting a garden office......"

I do hope you look into the requirements regarding planning permission with
your local council

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Pity they don't strip sarcastic characters, especially those that cant
even
spell but rely totally on spell checker........."some sill simply" Must
be
nice to be so intelligent.

Er, David, be careful.

You omitted an apostrophe in "can't". Also, if referring to living people
you'd have been better saying, "those who" rather than "those that".

Anyone can make a typo.

Mary

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

David Hill wrote:

"..........Some servers will strip the Some servers will strip the
characters and replace them with blanks,
some sill simply drop that particular post on the floor.

That's a misquote, I didn't type "Some servers will strip the" twice. My
typo is noted.

Since you're a gardener, the best response is probably "there, there,
don't you worry it's a bit technical."

Pity they don't strip sarcastic characters, especially those that cant even
spell but rely totally on spell checker........."some sill simply" Must be
nice to be so intelligent.

"can't" and that IMO is a rather more serious error than a typo. I don't
use a spell checker, your clairvoyance appears to be on the wane.

And for your information to be a modern "Gardener " you have to be a
builder, a plumber, a gas fitter, a chemist, a botanist, an entomologist and
be willing to work up to 15 hours a day in season and 7 days a week.

But you don't have to be particularly good at any of those trades. Nor
particularly informed before going off on a rant, it seems. Oh well, off
you go Dirty Fingered Sid, back to pricking out behind the potting shed.

--
Mathematicians, please don't drink and derive.

"Kev" wrote in message
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(William.R.Reisen) wrote in
om:

Hi,

I am thinking about getting a garden office.
I've just finished doing the same job - but using ordinary building
materials, mostly bought second-hand via Adtrader. My 16ft x 10ft office
cost 1200ukp and looks great.

It's built of breeze blocks, rendered and painted. The roof is properly
tiled with slates and terracotta ridge tiles. Two double glazed UPVC windows
and a pair of Wickes UPVC french doors let in plenty of light and fresh air.
Second hand items:
Roof trusses £100
Windows £60
Slates £180
Remainder: 6 metres ready-mix £240. Blocks £264. French doors £199. Ridge
tiles £54. Sand. cement & timber made up the balance.

I've added a false chimney for birds to nest in and a bit of trellis &
planting to blend it all in. Now the wife is threatening to make a take-over
bid......

I did all the work myself - never done anuthing like it before but it all
came out perfectly. It has taken just over three months and the only tough
bits were digging out the footings and laying the blocks up the apex of the
roof. If you don't have the time, try advertising for a pensioner to do it
for you!

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My cousin has a two of those seagoing containers in his garden to
house his collection of antique motorcycles and the workshop that
goes with them.

But they look awfull, unless you put a wood frame around and clad it.
Which may be feasible.


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Hi

As has been mentioned planning permision would more than likely be required,
I'd be wary though, if you stride into the planning office asking for
permission to build an office in the back garden then the answer will
probably be no. A garden room, studio or the like would probably be better
recieved.

With this in mind, lorry containers would probably require some window
dressing to make then acceptable. The prefab timber buildings are pretty
good these days as are the Border Oak http://www.borderoak.com/Garages.htm
type timber framed buildings, I guess it's down to asthetics and your budget
at the end of the day.

If you want some more info on highly insulated timber panel structures you
could try contacting a guy called John Hayden, I worked with him a few years
ago and he's branched out into constructing small garden rooms, he only
works in the old Avon county area, so is probably not in your area. He might
be able to offer some advice though. his mail is -

haydengardenrooms - you know what goes here - btopenworld.com

You could also try posting in alt.architecture but I warn you things can
lean towards the insane in there at times :-)

HTH

Tim

(Jim Ley) writes:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:04:55 +0100, "Tim Ward"
wrote:


I'm trying to work out why someone should invent "UKP" in preference to
using the ISO standard "GBP".

Because the ISO are looking to charge for use of such codes, and it's
not worth the risking the licensing costs?

Yeah. Right. Buy better drugs.


--
"The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
The uk.transport FAQ; http://www.huge.org.uk/transport/FAQ.html
[email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]

snip
My cousin has a two of those seagoing containers in his garden to
house his collection of antique motorcycles and the workshop that
goes with them.

But they look awfull, unless you put a wood frame around and clad it.
Which may be feasible.


---

Hi

As has been mentioned planning permission would more than likely be
required,
I'd be wary though, if you stride into the planning office asking for
permission to build an office in the back garden then the answer will
probably be no. A garden room, studio or the like would probably be better
received. Try talking to a planning officer about their policy in this area
in general without giving away any details.

Also what is your location, rural or urban?

With the planning issues in mind, lorry containers would probably require
some window
dressing to make then acceptable. The prefab timber buildings are pretty
good these days as are the Border Oak http://www.borderoak.com/Garages.htm
type timber framed buildings, I guess it's down to aesthetics and your
budget
at the end of the day.

If you want some more info on highly insulated timber panel structures you
could try contacting a guy called John Hayden, I worked with him a few years
ago and he's branched out into constructing small garden rooms, he only
works in the old Avon county area, so is probably not in your area. He might
be able to offer some advice though. his mail is -

haydengardenrooms - you know what goes here - btopenworld.com

You could also try posting in alt.architecture but I warn you things can
lean towards the insane in there at times :-)

HTH

Tim

On 28 Sep 2003 17:42:49 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

(Jim Ley) writes:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:04:55 +0100, "Tim Ward"
wrote:


I'm trying to work out why someone should invent "UKP" in preference to
using the ISO standard "GBP".

Because the ISO are looking to charge for use of such codes, and it's
not worth the risking the licensing costs?

Yeah. Right. Buy better drugs.

Erm, you have seen

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/...003JulSep/0213

etc. and the original announcements, the ISO are considering licence
fees for ISO 4217.

Jim.

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
t...

If you don't have the time, try advertising for a pensioner to do it
for you!

You think pensioners have time to spare???????

You wait!

Don't have to wait - I ama a pensioner. I have little spare time because I
love to do projects for my nighbours - without fee of course!

If I were to be paid I would probably ask for payment in UKP - not a
standard I invented but one, which, in the days when I worked for a living
(long before the days of ISO standards), was the standard used when
communicating with the USA (who were more used to USD)

I'm neither sad nor thick - I used to write programs in a range of crude and
difficult languages like Fortran and Cobol in the days when computers had
green screens....

x2 bugger :-(

still you can laugh at my non spellchecked one now