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Franz Heymann 01-10-2003 03:42 PM

Bracken compost
 
I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure. The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?

Franz



Jaques d'Altrades 01-10-2003 06:02 PM

Bracken compost
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure. The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?


Much more work required in gathering bracken and mixing/composting.

Sounds very reasonable to me.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

martin 01-10-2003 06:12 PM

Bracken compost
 
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:18:46 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure. The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?


Much more work required in gathering bracken and mixing/composting.


and the spores cause cancer allegedly


Sounds very reasonable to me.


--
Martin

Janet Baraclough 01-10-2003 06:42 PM

Bracken compost
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure. The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?


Isn't the composted bracken/manure product is intended as a
fertiliser/soil enricher? Potting compost is intended for what it says.
If they are not equivalent products then one wouldn't expect the prices
to be similar.

Compare it with the price of other composted manures like 6X , which
is also twice the price of ordinary potting compost.

Janet.

Franz Heymann 01-10-2003 10:44 PM

Bracken compost
 

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure. The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based

potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?


Isn't the composted bracken/manure product is intended as a
fertiliser/soil enricher?


Yes. It is intended to be used as a mulch, as far as I can make out. Which
is why I find it surprising that it is twice the price of peatbased
composts. Typical of the price of other non-peat composts. I consider them
to be rip-offs too.

Potting compost is intended for what it says.
If they are not equivalent products then one wouldn't expect the prices
to be similar.


Indeed. I would have expected the mulching composts to be less expensive
than the peat-based composts. Perhaps I anm just plain wrong on this issue.

Compare it with the price of other composted manures like 6X , which
is also twice the price of ordinary potting compost.


Franz



Franz Heymann 01-10-2003 10:44 PM

Bracken compost
 

"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure. The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based

potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?


Much more work required in gathering bracken and mixing/composting.

Sounds very reasonable to me.


But then it will cost me a leg and an arm to treat the whole garden with it.

Franz



Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 12:04 AM

Bracken compost
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

Sounds very reasonable to me.


But then it will cost me a leg and an arm to treat the whole garden with it.


Then I recommend what I used to do when I was ickle - go out with a
bucket and shovel and take home the hors d'offerings which steamed in
the road.

Of course, in those days the milkman had a horse and cart, as did the
baker, the fish man, the 'mobile greengrocer', the farmer more-or-less
next door.

One of the coal merchants had a Foden steam lorry, but that only left
ash and hot cinders for unwary pssssssssssssssssssssscyclists instead.
Any of the abovementioned substance was purely verbal.

(I understand now that it should have had a plate under the grate to
prevent this.)

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Martin Brown 02-10-2003 07:56 AM

Bracken compost
 
In message , martin
writes
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:18:46 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure. The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?


Much more work required in gathering bracken and mixing/composting.


and the spores cause cancer allegedly


Not even allegedly. There are some very nasty toxins in bracken.
I have eaten the stuff once in Japan where it is a traditional delicacy.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 09:41 AM

Bracken compost
 

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
In message , martin
writes
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:18:46 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure.

The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based

potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?

Much more work required in gathering bracken and mixing/composting.


and the spores cause cancer allegedly


Not even allegedly. There are some very nasty toxins in bracken.
I have eaten the stuff once in Japan where it is a traditional delicacy.


I hope and trust that these products are broken down during composting......

Franz



Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 09:41 AM

Bracken compost
 

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
In message , martin
writes
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:18:46 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

I found a supplier of a compost based on bracken and horse manure.

The
price is almost exactly twice as much as that of ordinary peat based

potting
compost. Is this a rip-off?

Much more work required in gathering bracken and mixing/composting.


and the spores cause cancer allegedly


Not even allegedly. There are some very nasty toxins in bracken.
I have eaten the stuff once in Japan where it is a traditional delicacy.


I hope and trust that these products are broken down during composting......

Franz



Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 09:41 AM

Bracken compost
 

"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

Sounds very reasonable to me.


But then it will cost me a leg and an arm to treat the whole garden with

it.

Then I recommend what I used to do when I was ickle - go out with a
bucket and shovel and take home the hors d'offerings which steamed in
the road.


I do it now. There is always a small coal shovel and a poly bag in the
boot. But even here, in the Dales, horses are not all that prevalent
nowadays.

Franz



Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 09:41 AM

Bracken compost
 

"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

Sounds very reasonable to me.


But then it will cost me a leg and an arm to treat the whole garden with

it.

Then I recommend what I used to do when I was ickle - go out with a
bucket and shovel and take home the hors d'offerings which steamed in
the road.


I do it now. There is always a small coal shovel and a poly bag in the
boot. But even here, in the Dales, horses are not all that prevalent
nowadays.

Franz



Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 12:22 PM

Bracken compost
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

Then I recommend what I used to do when I was ickle - go out with a
bucket and shovel and take home the hors d'offerings which steamed in
the road.


I do it now. There is always a small coal shovel and a poly bag in the
boot. But even here, in the Dales, horses are not all that prevalent
nowadays.


Sheepsh composts well.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 12:25 PM

Bracken compost
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

Then I recommend what I used to do when I was ickle - go out with a
bucket and shovel and take home the hors d'offerings which steamed in
the road.


I do it now. There is always a small coal shovel and a poly bag in the
boot. But even here, in the Dales, horses are not all that prevalent
nowadays.


Sheepsh composts well.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 02:43 PM

Bracken compost
 

"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

Then I recommend what I used to do when I was ickle - go out with a
bucket and shovel and take home the hors d'offerings which steamed in
the road.


I do it now. There is always a small coal shovel and a poly bag in the
boot. But even here, in the Dales, horses are not all that prevalent
nowadays.


Sheepsh composts well.


Yes, but being distributed in smaller, widely spread packages, it is rather
tedious to collect significant amounts.

Franz




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