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20-10-2003, 10:42 PM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
Hi folks,
As I've got a field now, I fancy trying to sow some normal mushrooms in it. I'm guessing I need Agaricus campestris, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells spawn. I'm sure years ago as a kid I bought some - they were in an overlarge whitish paper seed packet (the company did two sizes of packs, small for normal, large for stuff like peas). Thinking back, I'd guess the spawn was impregnated into some kind of grain?? Whatever, can't find any, can't remember the company (although I've got a sneaking suspicion it was T&M in an old style pack - 30 years ago!!) Can anyone help?? TIA -- __________________________________________ Gareth Jones "Reality sucks - go watch a Star Trek" To email, remove the '_ns_' from __________________________________________ |
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20-10-2003, 11:32 PM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
The message
from Gareth Jones contains these words: As I've got a field now, I fancy trying to sow some normal mushrooms in it. I'm guessing I need Agaricus campestris, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells spawn. No-one does, AFAIK. I'm sure years ago as a kid I bought some - they were in an overlarge whitish paper seed packet (the company did two sizes of packs, small for normal, large for stuff like peas). Thinking back, I'd guess the spawn was impregnated into some kind of grain?? The cultivated variety is believed to have been derived from Agaricus bisporus, which does not grow in grass as a rule. Whatever, can't find any, can't remember the company (although I've got a sneaking suspicion it was T&M in an old style pack - 30 years ago!!) Can anyone help?? All you can do is to find a clone of field mushroom, horse mushroom, A. macrosporus etc, dig a patch of turf from the outside of the ring and transplant it. However, there are many other variables to take into consideration: the pH is crucial, as are available nutriants. My advice would be to let the field to someone with a stallion - they are reputed to be more attractive than mares to mushrooms. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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21-10-2003, 09:03 AM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
Gareth Jones wrote:
Hi folks, As I've got a field now, I fancy trying to sow some normal mushrooms in it. I'm guessing I need Agaricus campestris, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells spawn. I'm sure years ago as a kid I bought some - they were in an overlarge whitish paper seed packet (the company did two sizes of packs, small for normal, large for stuff like peas). Thinking back, I'd guess the spawn was impregnated into some kind of grain?? Whatever, can't find any, can't remember the company (although I've got a sneaking suspicion it was T&M in an old style pack - 30 years ago!!) Can anyone help?? http://snurl.com/2qoo Yes see above URL // Jim |
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21-10-2003, 09:42 AM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
"Gareth Jones" wrote in message ... Hi folks, As I've got a field now, I fancy trying to sow some normal mushrooms in it. I'm guessing I need Agaricus campestris, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells spawn. I'm sure years ago as a kid I bought some - they were in an overlarge whitish paper seed packet (the company did two sizes of packs, small for normal, large for stuff like peas). Thinking back, I'd guess the spawn was impregnated into some kind of grain?? Whatever, can't find any, can't remember the company (although I've got a sneaking suspicion it was T&M in an old style pack - 30 years ago!!) Can anyone help?? Put some ripe mushrooms gills-down on a piece of white paper and leave it like that for, say, 24 hours, and you will have collected more than a million spores on the paper. Franz |
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21-10-2003, 11:03 PM
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In article , Jaques d'Altrades
writes As I've got a field now, I fancy trying to sow some normal mushrooms in it. I'm guessing I need Agaricus campestris, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells spawn. No-one does, AFAIK. I'm sure years ago as a kid I bought some - they were in an overlarge whitish paper seed packet (the company did two sizes of packs, small for normal, large for stuff like peas). Thinking back, I'd guess the spawn was impregnated into some kind of grain?? The cultivated variety is believed to have been derived from Agaricus bisporus, which does not grow in grass as a rule. Are you saying no-one does now, or no-one has ever? Because the spawn I bought in packets years ago was meant to be planted in a field or lawn by lifting a spadefull of turf, sprinkling the 'seeds', replacing the turf and voila! And it worked - had proper 'normal' mushrooms growing in the lawn the next year. I find it strange that you can't get this anymore?!? -- __________________________________________ Gareth Jones "Reality sucks - go watch a Star Trek" To email, remove the '_ns_' from __________________________________________ |
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22-10-2003, 10:32 AM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
Gareth Jones wrote:
In article , Jaques d'Altrades writes As I've got a field now, I fancy trying to sow some normal mushrooms in it. I'm guessing I need Agaricus campestris, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells spawn. No-one does, AFAIK. I'm sure years ago as a kid I bought some - they were in an overlarge whitish paper seed packet (the company did two sizes of packs, small for normal, large for stuff like peas). Thinking back, I'd guess the spawn was impregnated into some kind of grain?? The cultivated variety is believed to have been derived from Agaricus bisporus, which does not grow in grass as a rule. Are you saying no-one does now, or no-one has ever? Because the spawn I bought in packets years ago was meant to be planted in a field or lawn by lifting a spadefull of turf, sprinkling the 'seeds', replacing the turf and voila! And it worked - had proper 'normal' mushrooms growing in the lawn the next year. I find it strange that you can't get this anymore?!? You can.. http://www.seedsofitaly.sagenet.co.uk/funghi.htm http://www.cjindustries.co.uk/cg020001.html http://www.permaculture.co.uk/mag/Ar...ushrooms1.html http://www.jac-by-the-stowl.co.uk/hf_commercial.htm http://www.ragmans.co.uk/Shiitake/growing.htm See also the links on these pages for more information on 'shroom growing. // Jim |
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22-10-2003, 01:22 PM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
The message
from Gareth Jones contains these words: The cultivated variety is believed to have been derived from Agaricus bisporus, which does not grow in grass as a rule. Are you saying no-one does now, or no-one has ever? Because the spawn I bought in packets years ago was meant to be planted in a field or lawn by lifting a spadefull of turf, sprinkling the 'seeds', replacing the turf and voila! And it worked - had proper 'normal' mushrooms growing in the lawn the next year. Well, I'd never come across this spawn, and I shouldn't think it would be univesally successful or if successful at all, to give results very often the following season. I find it strange that you can't get this anymore?!? I don't. (Assuming it is no longer available.) Its success is (IMO) likely to have been minimal, and firms thrive on satisfied customers recommending the product. What I was suggesting was a DIY version of your spawn. Unless your soil is slightly alkaline with a fair amount of humus you are unlikely to get cultivated mushrooms 'taking'. Try Googling on 'spawn' and ' field mushroom'. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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22-10-2003, 09:32 PM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
In article , Jaques d'Altrades
writes What I was suggesting was a DIY version of your spawn. Unless your soil is slightly alkaline with a fair amount of humus you are unlikely to get cultivated mushrooms 'taking'. Try Googling on 'spawn' and ' field mushroom'. Perhaps I should have mentioned in the first post that I did spend quite some time trawling the net first before posting. Loads of stuff on fungi and various mushroom kits, but I've got a field and I wanna use it! And since wild mushrooms grow in fields, I guessed it was a safe bet to try and sow wild mushrooms in there :-) I've read that wild mushrooms only grow well in certain circumstances, but as written previously, I tried them in a lawn years ago and it worked fine. Hence my surprise in not being able to find any commercially available spawn nowadays. Maybe my best bet is to try and find some 'ripe' wild mushrooms and collect the spawn from them as suggested. Trouble is, not sure where there are any mushroom fields around here! I still can't believe I can't get a packet..... I can visualise the thing so clearly in my mind...... all those years ago..... -- __________________________________________ Gareth Jones "Reality sucks - go watch a Star Trek" To email, remove the '_ns_' from __________________________________________ |
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23-10-2003, 11:25 AM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
Jaques d'Altrades wrote:
The message 1g387ia.1xgdp7w1t0jjt8N%00senetnospamtodayta@macu nlimited.net from (Jim W) contains these words: I find it strange that you can't get this anymore?!? You can.. http://www.seedsofitaly.sagenet.co.uk/funghi.htm http://www.cjindustries.co.uk/cg020001.html http://www.permaculture.co.uk/mag/Ar...ushrooms1.html http://www.jac-by-the-stowl.co.uk/hf_commercial.htm http://www.ragmans.co.uk/Shiitake/growing.htm These pages (Useful though they are) don't cater for Agaricus campestris, A. arvensis or A. macrosporus, which is what the questioner was after. Email the authors of said companies and ask THEM.. they are far more likley to know than anyone, being 'in the business' as it were. // J;-) |
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23-10-2003, 11:33 AM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
Gareth Jones wrote:
In article , Jaques d'Altrades writes What I was suggesting was a DIY version of your spawn. Unless your soil is slightly alkaline with a fair amount of humus you are unlikely to get cultivated mushrooms 'taking'. Try Googling on 'spawn' and ' field mushroom'. Perhaps I should have mentioned in the first post that I did spend quite some time trawling the net first before posting. Loads of stuff on fungi and various mushroom kits, but I've got a field and I wanna use it! And since wild mushrooms grow in fields, I guessed it was a safe bet to try and sow wild mushrooms in there :-) I've read that wild mushrooms only grow well in certain circumstances, but as written previously, I tried them in a lawn years ago and it worked fine. Hence my surprise in not being able to find any commercially available spawn nowadays. Maybe my best bet is to try and find some 'ripe' wild mushrooms and collect the spawn from them as suggested. Trouble is, not sure where there are any mushroom fields around here! I still can't believe I can't get a packet..... I can visualise the thing so clearly in my mind...... all those years ago..... Mebbe go on a 'fungus foray' that a lot of the woodland and envoronment groups are running at this time of year,.. Most of the people who lead these know their mushrooms and might be able to source you some spawn from a stable wild population or otherwise. / Jim |
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#12
23-10-2003, 02:14 PM
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Where to buy mushroom spawn?
The message
from Gareth Jones contains these words: Maybe my best bet is to try and find some 'ripe' wild mushrooms and collect the spawn from them as suggested. Trouble is, not sure where there are any mushroom fields around here! Ah, watch this space: there's another thread_||_down there which might provide oodles of mushrooms. \ / \/ I still can't believe I can't get a packet..... I can visualise the thing so clearly in my mind...... all those years ago..... Hmmm. Yes, but then I can visualise a doodle-bug flying in the sky above me. I can visualise the mail plane which flew over our area daily - a smallish biplane airliner. I can visualise Mars Bars at 2d each. I can still see in my mind's eye whalemeat in the butcher's and snoek on the fishmonger's slab. All those years ago. All gone, for better or worse. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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