In article , martin
writes
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:24 +0100, Nick Wagg
wrote:

Jane Ransom wrote:

In article , Kay Easton
writes

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! -

Eh???????
It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!!


That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please?

The HS&E.

Where did you get that bit of information from, please? I can't find
anything that says you have to notify anyone of giant hogweed on your
own private land. I can see there might be different regulations if it
is on land which others have access to.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Nick Wagg
writes
Jane Ransom wrote:

In article , Kay Easton
writes

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! -

Eh???????
It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!!


That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please?

Nobody, unless you really want to. There's no compunction on you to
notify - you merely have to make sure you don't allow it to spread
outside your land.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Franz Heymann
writes

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann
writes

In my experience, that is useless. Every minuscule rootlet left below
ground level regrows with a vengeance.
Only glyphosate has really eradicated them in my previous garden. The
present one, touch wood, has none, but the giant hogweed is a bit of a
problem.

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! - it's a splendid plant. Pity it causes skin
problems.

Mine is approximately 7 ft if left undisturbed. And yes, the reason why we
have to eradicate it is because neither my wife nor I can get near it
without skin problems. (Plus the fact that it chose to make its home bang
in the middle of a little group of potentillas).

DEFRA recommend glyphosate - see

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...67839/?lang=_e



--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Jane Ransom
writes
In article , Kay Easton
writes

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! -

Eh???????
It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!!

It is an invasive alien, and it is an offence to plant it or otherwise
cause it to grow in the wild.

It is not notifiable - you don't have to tell anyone if you have it.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann
writes

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! - it's a splendid plant. Pity it causes skin
problems.

Mine is approximately 7 ft if left undisturbed. And yes, the reason why
we
have to eradicate it is because neither my wife nor I can get near it
without skin problems. (Plus the fact that it chose to make its home
bang
in the middle of a little group of potentillas).

DEFRA recommend glyphosate

I did. I thought I had killed it, but it came up again. I fed it some more
glyphosate. There is no sign yet of a repeat performance, but I guess I
have to wait until the spring to see who won.

[snip]

Franz

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:01:15 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , martin
writes
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:24 +0100, Nick Wagg
wrote:

Jane Ransom wrote:

In article , Kay Easton
writes

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! -

Eh???????
It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!!


That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please?

The HS&E.

Where did you get that bit of information from, please?

Google I didn't save the URL and I can't find it again.

Last time it was discussed in
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showth...?threadid=8917
the local council appeared to be the place.

The scope of the ban is in
http://www.parliament.the-stationery...rittens-1.html
"Giant Hogweed
Mrs. Margaret Ewing : To ask the Secretary of State for Trade and
Industry whether he will take steps to ban the import and sale of
seeds of Heracleum Mantegazzianum.

Mr. Sainsbury [holding answer 22 October 1990] : No. There are
currently no plans to ban the import or sale of seeds of Heracleum
Mantegazzianum.

However, under section 14(2) of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981,
it is an offence for any person to plant or to otherwise cause to grow
in the wild any plant which is included in part 2 of schedule 9 to the
Act. Giant hogweed (Heracleum Mantegazzianum) is listed in the
schedule."

Details of section 14(2) of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 at
http://www.defra.gov.uk/paw/publications/law/5_1_7.htm

and for list of banned flora and fauna
http://www.defra.gov.uk/paw/publicat...w/appenda9.htm

it could be quite expensive having a garden or field full of giant
hogweed

http://www.defra.gov.uk/paw/publications/law/1_6.htm
--
Martin

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:01:20 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , Nick Wagg
writes
Jane Ransom wrote:

In article , Kay Easton
writes

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! -

Eh???????
It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!!


That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please?

Nobody, unless you really want to. There's no compunction on you to
notify - you merely have to make sure you don't allow it to spread
outside your land.

or have it growing on your land!
--
Martin

The message
from Janet Tweedy contains these words:

I even though about putting that chemical on the ground that stops ALL
germination for six months, as the area is useless for growing on in,
case I break any more roots of the weed. So I have a 14 foot square bed
that I haven't grown anything in save blackberries for about ten years
...............

Simozine or something of similar spelling. My advice would be not to use it.

I had a smallholding and because I couldn't use all my 17½ acres at
first, I let some to a neighbouring dairy farmer, who put it down to
maize, treating the ground with Simozine (Sp?) to kill off the
competition - maize being for some reason, unaffected by it.

Two years after the last maize crop, I ploughed and harrowed the six
acre field and sowed spring barley, very little of which came up.

I had to replough and re-harrow twice before I could do anything at all,
and the ley of mixed grasses and clover I put down eventually didn't do
well at all for a couple of years.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

[(Alleged) giant hogweed]

Mine is approximately 7 ft if left undisturbed. And yes, the reason why we
have to eradicate it is because neither my wife nor I can get near it
without skin problems. (Plus the fact that it chose to make its home bang
in the middle of a little group of potentillas).

It doesn't sound like giant hogweed to me then unless it's on really
very poor ground, the sod will grow to ten or twelve feet without even
trying.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

Few people can get near it without skin problems. A friend of ours became
very ill after trying to get his out and suffered for quite some time. Be,
very, very careful.

Yes, I wouldn't advocate geting it out anywhere near one....

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:16:53 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

Few people can get near it without skin problems. A friend of ours became
very ill after trying to get his out and suffered for quite some time. Be,
very, very careful.

Yes, I wouldn't advocate geting it out anywhere near one....

I still remember a close encounter with an electric fence in the dark
....
--
Martin

In article , Jane Ransom
writes
In article , Kay Easton
writes

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! -

Eh???????
It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!!



Yes but Kay always sees the best in everything, bless her cotton
socks..........

janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Janet Tweedy wrote in news:caSAuWD4Jxl
:

In article , Victoria
Clare writes

Oddly, I've never found GE very invasive: must be lucky with my soil...


Sorry Janet B. I have to reply to this bit of the thread though I've
made several replies already

Some two years ago there was a big thing being made about a plant that
if grown in a plot of land inhibited the ground elder from growing
though I can't for the life of me remember its name. I know T & M or
some other firm were adverting the seeds or plants and they ran out of
supply.
Did anyone else try it or remember the details?

I don't, but my little patch of GE is losing the war against hardy
geraniums, pieris, michaelmas daisies, and ivy. I am probably going to
have to take up some GE and plant it somewhere else if I want to keep any
to have on pizza. :-)

Or at least do some weeding down there in the overgrown patch...

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

In article , Nick Wagg
writes

Eh???????
It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!!


That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please?

Department of the Environment - or whatever official title it lives
under these days!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see

In article , martin
writes
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:01:20 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , Nick Wagg
writes
Jane Ransom wrote:

In article , Kay Easton
writes

Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But
if giant, lucky you! -

Eh???????
It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!!


That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please?

Nobody, unless you really want to. There's no compunction on you to
notify - you merely have to make sure you don't allow it to spread
outside your land.

or have it growing on your land!

Where does it say that?

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm