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26-10-2003, 03:02 PM
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:01:15 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: The message from martin contains these words: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote: Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles of grass verges? In the Netherlands. Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists with awful results. There is no pavement or cycle path on the side of the road where the giant hog weed was. It was reported in the local newspaper -- Martin |
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26-10-2003, 03:02 PM
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Getting rid of ground elder
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:01:15 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: The message from martin contains these words: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote: Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles of grass verges? In the Netherlands. Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists with awful results. There is no pavement or cycle path on the side of the road where the giant hog weed was. It was reported in the local newspaper -- Martin |
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#108
26-10-2003, 03:02 PM
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Franz Heymann wrote: "martin" wrote in message .. . Having read all the stuff about the unintentional spread of GM plants, and seen giant hog weed growing along miles of grass verges, how can you be careful not to let it escape? Why does it appear some years and not others? I have sincere doubts if you have ever "seen giant hogweed growing along miles of grass verges". He may well have done - I can't tell you what he has been smoking :-) To martin: The reason that you won't have done is that it is not a weed of GRASS verges. Most conditions that will cause a cover of grass are not what it likes and, if it does grow well, it will kill the grass. You may well have seen it along miles of VERGES, but an inspection of them will show either relatively little giant hogweed or relatively little grass underneath it. The same applies to many other weeds, incidentally. You can prevent it escaping only by preventing it from setting seed; cutting it down once or twice a year without fail will do that. If it appears in a place some years and not others, I suspect that it is NOT giant hogweed (which is a perennial), but one of the umbellifers that can be mistaken for it. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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26-10-2003, 03:02 PM
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Franz Heymann wrote: "martin" wrote in message .. . Having read all the stuff about the unintentional spread of GM plants, and seen giant hog weed growing along miles of grass verges, how can you be careful not to let it escape? Why does it appear some years and not others? I have sincere doubts if you have ever "seen giant hogweed growing along miles of grass verges". He may well have done - I can't tell you what he has been smoking :-) To martin: The reason that you won't have done is that it is not a weed of GRASS verges. Most conditions that will cause a cover of grass are not what it likes and, if it does grow well, it will kill the grass. You may well have seen it along miles of VERGES, but an inspection of them will show either relatively little giant hogweed or relatively little grass underneath it. The same applies to many other weeds, incidentally. You can prevent it escaping only by preventing it from setting seed; cutting it down once or twice a year without fail will do that. If it appears in a place some years and not others, I suspect that it is NOT giant hogweed (which is a perennial), but one of the umbellifers that can be mistaken for it. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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26-10-2003, 03:02 PM
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Getting rid of ground elder
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Franz Heymann wrote: "martin" wrote in message .. . Having read all the stuff about the unintentional spread of GM plants, and seen giant hog weed growing along miles of grass verges, how can you be careful not to let it escape? Why does it appear some years and not others? I have sincere doubts if you have ever "seen giant hogweed growing along miles of grass verges". He may well have done - I can't tell you what he has been smoking :-) To martin: The reason that you won't have done is that it is not a weed of GRASS verges. Most conditions that will cause a cover of grass are not what it likes and, if it does grow well, it will kill the grass. You may well have seen it along miles of VERGES, but an inspection of them will show either relatively little giant hogweed or relatively little grass underneath it. The same applies to many other weeds, incidentally. You can prevent it escaping only by preventing it from setting seed; cutting it down once or twice a year without fail will do that. If it appears in a place some years and not others, I suspect that it is NOT giant hogweed (which is a perennial), but one of the umbellifers that can be mistaken for it. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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26-10-2003, 03:02 PM
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Getting rid of ground elder
In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote: "martin" wrote in message .. . Having read all the stuff about the unintentional spread of GM plants, and seen giant hog weed growing along miles of grass verges, how can you be careful not to let it escape? Why does it appear some years and not others? I have sincere doubts if you have ever "seen giant hogweed growing along miles of grass verges". He may well have done - I can't tell you what he has been smoking :-) To martin: The reason that you won't have done is that it is not a weed of GRASS verges. Most conditions that will cause a cover of grass are not what it likes and, if it does grow well, it will kill the grass. You may well have seen it along miles of VERGES, but an inspection of them will show either relatively little giant hogweed or relatively little grass underneath it. The same applies to many other weeds, incidentally. You can prevent it escaping only by preventing it from setting seed; cutting it down once or twice a year without fail will do that. If it appears in a place some years and not others, I suspect that it is NOT giant hogweed (which is a perennial), but one of the umbellifers that can be mistaken for it. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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26-10-2003, 03:02 PM
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:22:22 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote: The message from martin contains these words: We had to make do with Hovis and dripping sandwiches, wrapped in Page 3 to keep them warm. Luxury. Tha had dripping? Why, t'only dripping us had while childhood were through top of t'box us family lived in. box? we lived in t' gutter. Luxury! They swept us family out of t'gutter and dumped us in t'box, 'appen. They kept us there while Christmas suspended over t'river like some magician. Christmas? There were no Christmas in t' mill -- Martin |
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26-10-2003, 03:03 PM
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26-10-2003, 03:03 PM
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from martin contains these words: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote: Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles of grass verges? In the Netherlands. Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists with awful results. Janet. |
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26-10-2003, 03:03 PM
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Getting rid of ground elder
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:01:15 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: The message from martin contains these words: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote: Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles of grass verges? In the Netherlands. Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists with awful results. There is no pavement or cycle path on the side of the road where the giant hog weed was. It was reported in the local newspaper -- Martin |
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26-10-2003, 03:03 PM
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Getting rid of ground elder
In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote: "martin" wrote in message .. . Having read all the stuff about the unintentional spread of GM plants, and seen giant hog weed growing along miles of grass verges, how can you be careful not to let it escape? Why does it appear some years and not others? I have sincere doubts if you have ever "seen giant hogweed growing along miles of grass verges". He may well have done - I can't tell you what he has been smoking :-) To martin: The reason that you won't have done is that it is not a weed of GRASS verges. Most conditions that will cause a cover of grass are not what it likes and, if it does grow well, it will kill the grass. You may well have seen it along miles of VERGES, but an inspection of them will show either relatively little giant hogweed or relatively little grass underneath it. The same applies to many other weeds, incidentally. You can prevent it escaping only by preventing it from setting seed; cutting it down once or twice a year without fail will do that. If it appears in a place some years and not others, I suspect that it is NOT giant hogweed (which is a perennial), but one of the umbellifers that can be mistaken for it. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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#120
26-10-2003, 03:04 PM
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