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Peter C 05-11-2003 09:02 PM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 
I have just cleared an area in front of a 6 foot high by 24 feet long
fence . I am considering purchasing either Wisteria or Virginia
Creepers to grow up the fence.I know the merits of both ie, leaves ,
flowers. My side of the fence is in the shade. Any views which to
purchase ? Also when should I purchase and plant.?
Thanks.
Peter.



Nick Maclaren 05-11-2003 09:12 PM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 
In article ,
Peter C wrote:
I have just cleared an area in front of a 6 foot high by 24 feet long
fence . I am considering purchasing either Wisteria or Virginia
Creepers to grow up the fence.I know the merits of both ie, leaves ,
flowers. My side of the fence is in the shade. Any views which to
purchase ? Also when should I purchase and plant.?


It makes little difference. Both prefer sun but can handle open
shade - and do reasonably well in it. You can plant container
grown plants any time the soil is not frozen.

You could even grow both but pruning might be tricky :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Jim W 05-11-2003 10:02 PM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 
Peter C wrote:

I have just cleared an area in front of a 6 foot high by 24 feet long
fence . I am considering purchasing either Wisteria or Virginia
Creepers to grow up the fence.I know the merits of both ie, leaves ,
flowers. My side of the fence is in the shade. Any views which to
purchase ? Also when should I purchase and plant.?
Thanks.


I would go for 2 but go for Parthenocissus henryana instead of Virginia
creeper.. Much nicer on a shaded wall.

Purchase and plant now till about late feb/march. at least while both
of these are dormant. Plant when ground is not frosty and firm in .
mulch well to protect roots from frost
/
Jim

Charlie Pridham 06-11-2003 11:03 PM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 

"Jim W" wrote in message
news:1g3z0pa.n6jmsl70ibtbN%00senetnospamtodayta@ma cunlimited.net...
Peter C wrote:

I have just cleared an area in front of a 6 foot high by 24 feet long
fence . I am considering purchasing either Wisteria or Virginia
Creepers to grow up the fence.I know the merits of both ie, leaves ,
flowers. My side of the fence is in the shade. Any views which to
purchase ? Also when should I purchase and plant.?
Thanks.


I would go for 2 but go for Parthenocissus henryana instead of Virginia
creeper.. Much nicer on a shaded wall.

Purchase and plant now till about late feb/march. at least while both
of these are dormant. Plant when ground is not frosty and firm in .
mulch well to protect roots from frost
/
Jim

P. henryana gets my vote, it colours up well in shade (the leaves have good
colour and markings in summer as well as the wonderfull autumn display.)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Peter C 07-11-2003 01:19 AM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Jim W" wrote in message
news:1g3z0pa.n6jmsl70ibtbN%00senetnospamtodayta@ma cunlimited.net...
Peter C wrote:

I have just cleared an area in front of a 6 foot high by 24 feet

long
fence . I am considering purchasing either Wisteria or Virginia
Creepers to grow up the fence.I know the merits of both ie,

leaves ,
flowers. My side of the fence is in the shade. Any views which

to
purchase ? Also when should I purchase and plant.?
Thanks.


I would go for 2 but go for Parthenocissus henryana instead of

Virginia
creeper.. Much nicer on a shaded wall.

Purchase and plant now till about late feb/march. at least while

both
of these are dormant. Plant when ground is not frosty and firm in

..
mulch well to protect roots from frost
/
Jim

P. henryana gets my vote, it colours up well in shade (the leaves

have good
colour and markings in summer as well as the wonderfull autumn

display.)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Thank you for all replies. This afternoon at the local garden centre

purchased two P henryana. Will plant out and look forward to a good
display next year.
Peter C



Peter C 07-11-2003 01:19 AM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Jim W" wrote in message
news:1g3z0pa.n6jmsl70ibtbN%00senetnospamtodayta@ma cunlimited.net...
Peter C wrote:

I have just cleared an area in front of a 6 foot high by 24 feet

long
fence . I am considering purchasing either Wisteria or Virginia
Creepers to grow up the fence.I know the merits of both ie,

leaves ,
flowers. My side of the fence is in the shade. Any views which

to
purchase ? Also when should I purchase and plant.?
Thanks.


I would go for 2 but go for Parthenocissus henryana instead of

Virginia
creeper.. Much nicer on a shaded wall.

Purchase and plant now till about late feb/march. at least while

both
of these are dormant. Plant when ground is not frosty and firm in

..
mulch well to protect roots from frost
/
Jim

P. henryana gets my vote, it colours up well in shade (the leaves

have good
colour and markings in summer as well as the wonderfull autumn

display.)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Thank you for all replies. This afternoon at the local garden centre

purchased two P henryana. Will plant out and look forward to a good
display next year.
Peter C



Peter C 07-11-2003 01:19 AM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Jim W" wrote in message
news:1g3z0pa.n6jmsl70ibtbN%00senetnospamtodayta@ma cunlimited.net...
Peter C wrote:

I have just cleared an area in front of a 6 foot high by 24 feet

long
fence . I am considering purchasing either Wisteria or Virginia
Creepers to grow up the fence.I know the merits of both ie,

leaves ,
flowers. My side of the fence is in the shade. Any views which

to
purchase ? Also when should I purchase and plant.?
Thanks.


I would go for 2 but go for Parthenocissus henryana instead of

Virginia
creeper.. Much nicer on a shaded wall.

Purchase and plant now till about late feb/march. at least while

both
of these are dormant. Plant when ground is not frosty and firm in

..
mulch well to protect roots from frost
/
Jim

P. henryana gets my vote, it colours up well in shade (the leaves

have good
colour and markings in summer as well as the wonderfull autumn

display.)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Thank you for all replies. This afternoon at the local garden centre

purchased two P henryana. Will plant out and look forward to a good
display next year.
Peter C



Franz Heymann 07-11-2003 09:43 AM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 

"Peter C" wrote in message
...

[snip]
Thank you for all replies. This afternoon at the local garden centre
purchased two P henryana. Will plant out and look forward to a good
display next year.


Peter, you are a trifle too optimistic. It will take at least 2 years
before the P henryana gives a good display. ( At least, mine did.)

Franz



Jim W 07-11-2003 10:03 AM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 
Franz Heymann wrote:

"Peter C" wrote in message
...

[snip]
Thank you for all replies. This afternoon at the local garden centre
purchased two P henryana. Will plant out and look forward to a good
display next year.


Peter, you are a trifle too optimistic. It will take at least 2 years
before the P henryana gives a good display. ( At least, mine did.)

Franz



Possibly, it does take a while to get established.

Mind you I find the plain summer colour of P. henryana almost as
attractive as its autumn tints.. Those deep dark green leaves with the
ivory white veins which almost seem to glow at you in the right light..

It is incredible..

The parent of our P.henryana is showing good colour this year, but its
in a more exposed condition than ours and a mature plant. Ours is
growing well but not much sign of autumn tints.. Mebbe if we get a hard
frost;-)
/
Jim

NWalch 07-11-2003 06:44 PM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 
I've got both growing on my fence and they look great together.
Wisteria flowers earlier in the year with the V. Creeper giving a
spectacular autumn colour (vibrant red leaves).


Nick

martin 08-11-2003 09:02 AM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:37:43 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Peter C" wrote in message
...

[snip]
Thank you for all replies. This afternoon at the local garden centre
purchased two P henryana. Will plant out and look forward to a good
display next year.


Peter, you are a trifle too optimistic. It will take at least 2 years
before the P henryana gives a good display. ( At least, mine did.)


If the garden centre is Bakker, 2 years is optimistic.
--=20
Martin

Peter C 08-11-2003 11:43 PM

Wisteria /Viginia Creeper.
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:37:43 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Peter C" wrote in

message
...

[snip]
Thank you for all replies. This afternoon at the local garden

centre
purchased two P henryana. Will plant out and look forward to a

good
display next year.


Peter, you are a trifle too optimistic. It will take at least 2

years
before the P henryana gives a good display. ( At least, mine did.)


If the garden centre is Bakker, 2 years is optimistic.
--
Martin

Oh Dear ! Back to the 'drawing board'

Peter.


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