In article , Sue da Nimm
.? writes

"mich" wrote in message
...
I left there because I couldnt stand the almost daily intimidation, thefts
,
vandalism . Its not Halloween or bonfire night that creates this problem
,
its a 24/7/365 problem.
People who blame bonfire night are just looking for a scapegoat for what
is
actually a wider social problem.

And the only way to tackle the wider problem is to legislate for each facet
and then follow through with action.

Isn't that just tackling the symptoms one by one?



--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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Mich,

I would like to apologise for my crass behsviour in criticising your
grammar.
It was completely undeserved.

Franz


Now I bet you tell us that typo was deliberate and that said you would do
it!!!!


Anthony

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
: In article , Nick Wagg
: writes
: AndWhyNot wrote:
:
:
: Still Christmas starts in September...
:
: In this week's New Scientist, someone reported that they had
: spotted Christmas Mince Pies for sale in Tesco, with a sell-by
: date in November.
:
: Friends brought some round to our bonfire ;-)
:
: But - do you not know that every mince pie eating before Christmas
: brings you a month of good luck after?
: --
: Kay Easton
:
: Edward's earthworm page:
: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

I make my Christmas cake end Oct/beg Nov and it's usually all eaten before
Christmas. That should be a year's good luck then.

K

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:22:45 -0000, anne wrote:

Yes BBQ's was a strange comparison.

The smoke and smell from BBQs all through the summer is 'orrible. When
we lived in St Albans the stink of a bit of dead animal being burnt
over charcoal was enough to drive us inside and have to close the
windows.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

"Anthony" wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...
Mich,

I would like to apologise for my crass behsviour in criticising your
grammar.
It was completely undeserved.

Franz


Now I bet you tell us that typo was deliberate and that said you would do
it!!!!


I only noticed it just now. I guess I have put my foot in it agian.
{:-((

Franz

In article ,
says...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

"mich" wrote in message
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You write much too much for one with such a poor command of English
spelling. ##

Quite a lot of use that news server. Some of my posts head out through
it.

Mich is solidly in the UK though.

NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-229-160.in-addr.btopenworld.com (81.131.229.160)

That's in the Bletchley area.

Warwick

In article , K
writes

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
: But - do you not know that every mince pie eating before Christmas
: brings you a month of good luck after?
: --

I make my Christmas cake end Oct/beg Nov and it's usually all eaten before
Christmas. That should be a year's good luck then.

My husband has learnt he needs to make at least 3 - one for me to ice
like a proper Christmas cake, one for him to eat as he doesn't like
icing, and one at least to keep us going until Christmas.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
: In article , K
: writes
:
: "Kay Easton" wrote in message
: ...
: : But - do you not know that every mince pie eating before Christmas
: : brings you a month of good luck after?
: : --
:
: I make my Christmas cake end Oct/beg Nov and it's usually all eaten
before
: Christmas. That should be a year's good luck then.
:
: My husband has learnt he needs to make at least 3 - one for me to ice
: like a proper Christmas cake, one for him to eat as he doesn't like
: icing, and one at least to keep us going until Christmas.
: --
: Kay Easton
:
: Edward's earthworm page:
: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

I always make two. The small one usually gets used as a raffle prize.

K

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , K
writes

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
: But - do you not know that every mince pie eating before Christmas
: brings you a month of good luck after?
: --

I make my Christmas cake end Oct/beg Nov and it's usually all eaten
before
Christmas. That should be a year's good luck then.

My husband has learnt he needs to make at least 3 - one for me to ice
like a proper Christmas cake, one for him to eat as he doesn't like
icing, and one at least to keep us going until Christmas.

Do you east the uniced one with cheese? Heavenly!!

Ophelia

Mich is solidly in the UK though.

NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-229-160.in-addr.btopenworld.com
(81.131.229.160)

That's in the Bletchley area.

Warwick
That explains everything, we moved out of Milton Keynes to escape the
constant 365 fireworks, drug dealers and the like. Although we were in
another area I wouldn't be suprised if this address would narrow down to the
Lakes Estate on the edge of Bletchley. This estate was built by the Greater
London Council and used to export all the people they didn't want! If your
car gets nicked in MK it'll turn up burned out there..

The Q

"The Q" wrote in message
...

Mich is solidly in the UK though.

NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-229-160.in-addr.btopenworld.com
(81.131.229.160)

That's in the Bletchley area.

Warwick
That explains everything, we moved out of Milton Keynes to escape the
constant 365 fireworks, drug dealers and the like. Although we were in
another area I wouldn't be suprised if this address would narrow down to
the
Lakes Estate on the edge of Bletchley. This estate was built by the
Greater
London Council and used to export all the people they didn't want! If your
car gets nicked in MK it'll turn up burned out there..

Actually, I live in Cornwall.

In article , Ophelia
writes

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , K
writes

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
: But - do you not know that every mince pie eating before Christmas
: brings you a month of good luck after?
: --

I make my Christmas cake end Oct/beg Nov and it's usually all eaten
before
Christmas. That should be a year's good luck then.

My husband has learnt he needs to make at least 3 - one for me to ice
like a proper Christmas cake, one for him to eat as he doesn't like
icing, and one at least to keep us going until Christmas.

Do you east the uniced one with cheese? Heavenly!!

Of course!

And the Forbidden Corner (that I talked about in another thread) cafe
does very good fruit cake with Wensleydale cheese. Though since it's
actually in Coverdale, it ougt to be Coverdale cheese.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

"mich" wrote in message
...
Well, sorry to say this ( and knowing it will get flamed) I am quite the
opposite. I get fed up of this kind of moan and gripe.

I am one of those you are moaning about.
I thought you might be.

I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large numbers
of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night.
( I
dont bother with Christmas or any other comercialised festival)

As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified
animal"
on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not
reading your feelings into their behaviour?

I run a small animal/bird sanctuary and every year have injured birds which
fly into the aviary wire at the first explosion. Most years at least *one*
breaks it's neck. This year it was a rabbit which died :-(
Then there was one of the small dogs who was so desperate to hide in a
corner when the fireworks started as I was shutting the poultry away for the
night, that she ran again and again into the electric fence trying to go
into a dark corner underneath some elderberry bushes. She was definately
panicking.
And then there was the pheasant which erupted from the trees surrounding my
land, and flew into the side of the house in terror. I didn't imagine any of
that and this was only this year. Every year something here dies because of
morons letting off high explosives in their back gardens.

In my area firework parties seemed to occur on certain nights . Most
seemed
to go off on Wednesday although I have to say all the offical displays
were
being puched through on halloween or the weekend thereafter, and another
speight of these "offical and large" displays went off this weekend!

So if anyone is to blame for the enlongating of the celebration , its the
companies and shops and councils themselves, not people like me.

There will always be abuse by some people , especially apprentice urban
terrorist types in inner cities and banning fireworks simply stops me
having
a good time on a night I especially enjoy.
I personally don't wish to see fireworks banned. What I would like is for
there to be no private displays. All public sales to be banned. Public
displays only and only on November the 5th. Even if it falls on a weekday if
it started at 7.30 and was over by 9.30 kids would still be able to get up
for school next day, and a 2 hour display would be bigger and better than
the measly amount of fireworks the average house owner could afford.

In article , Kay Easton
writes
We've had fireworks going off at all times of the day and night for the
past 4 weeks, but it doesn't actually bother me, and the cats all take
it in their stride. I accept that other people may be suffering real
problems as a result. If the consensus is that it needs sorting, I'm not
going to fuss, but just hope they find some way that means those of us
who have a single display on bonfire night don't lose out while the
menaces using fireworks as a deliberate nuisance can carry on
regardless. In other wards, any law should be enforceable rather than
the choice of naturally law-abiding.

I think that the noise is annoying, and my cats find it slightly scary,
but it's a minor matter, on a par with workmen with loud radios and the
neighbour's kid and his skateboard - I'd rather be without any of it,
but don't think the law should step in to enforce absolute silence. I
used to love fireworks as a child, and a ban sounds joyless.
--
Jane Lumley

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
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snip
:
: And the Forbidden Corner (that I talked about in another thread) cafe
: does very good fruit cake with Wensleydale cheese. Though since it's
: actually in Coverdale, it ougt to be Coverdale cheese.
: --
: Kay Easton
:
: Edward's earthworm page:
: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

You MUST report them to the EC :O)

K