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Charles Drown 17-11-2003 02:12 PM

Bitter Parsnips
 
I last week dug my first parsnips this season, variety - "Countess".
Out of the half dozen there was one that was incredibly bitter after cooking
(so much so, as to make it inedible).
It looked no different from the rest which were cooked at the same time in the
same dish, and were of very good flavour.
Does anyone have any experience of this?
Could this be a varietal problem or perhaps unfavourable
growing conditions (very dry this year in South Glos.)?
I would be grateful for any information.
Many thanks
Charles Drown

sahara 10-02-2004 09:04 AM

Parsnips
 
"shazzbat" wrote in message ...
This year I am intending to try the method of germinating them on
wet tissue paper and then transplanting. Has anybody tried this? With what
success? And how big do you let them get before planting out?


This months garden answers has something in it about this method. You
sprout the seed (so that the seeds are just about splitting and no
more) on the paper and then mix into some already wet water retaining
gel. Then mix gently and use a placcy bag with a hole to sqeeze out a
line onto your plot. The gel protects the delicate seeds/sprouts and
gives them a good start in life.
I am not sure when you are supposed to do all this though? March? I
guess it is a bit too early in the year right now?
sarah a

Tom Bennett 10-02-2004 12:34 PM

Parsnips
 
"sahara" wrote I am not sure when you are supposed to do all this though?
March? I
guess it is a bit too early in the year right now?


My late father grew wonderful parsnips, every year. He used to sow them
in early February (frost permitting and without any special preparation of
the seed) and he gardened 800' up in the Durham Pennines. I've sown them
at the same time, here in SE England, using seeds set in paper tape, and
have had the same consistently good results.

Another piece of received wisdom (from my Grandfather this time) was that
parsnips should never be lifted until they'd had a good hard frost on
them. He said they didn't taste as good before that. With the climate we
have now, waiting for that "decent frost" might be a problem for some!


- Tom Bennett



Kay Easton 10-02-2004 12:42 PM

Parsnips
 
In article , Tom Bennett
writes
"sahara" wrote I am not sure when you are supposed to do all this though?
March? I
guess it is a bit too early in the year right now?


My late father grew wonderful parsnips, every year. He used to sow them
in early February (frost permitting and without any special preparation of
the seed) and he gardened 800' up in the Durham Pennines. I've sown them
at the same time, here in SE England, using seeds set in paper tape, and
have had the same consistently good results.


They take a very long time to germinate, and the seed must be fresh (not
the remains of last year's). I find it helpful to plant a radish seed
every couple of inches - the radishes come up quickly and remind me
where the row of parsnips is meant to be. They don't need to be planted
deeply. In the SE I used to plant in April and water the drill before
sowing.

Another piece of received wisdom (from my Grandfather this time) was that
parsnips should never be lifted until they'd had a good hard frost on
them. He said they didn't taste as good before that. With the climate we
have now, waiting for that "decent frost" might be a problem for some!


My mother told me that the frost stimulates production of sugar as a
sort of 'antifreeze'.

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Sarah Dale 11-02-2004 04:48 AM

Parsnips
 
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:51:32 +0000, shazzbat wrote:
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I


I too would like info on this issue - I'd love to grow parsnips - my
results over 2 years trying have been 1 parsnip!!!

My FIL has recommeneded very fresh seed, and soaking for 24hrs before
sowing - but that got me nowhere!

I'm contemplating pot sowing indoors in an effort to get the B*ggers to
germinate and then plant outdoors. It could well be my heavy damp high
clay content welsh soil affecting the germination.

TIA,

Sarah

Sarah Dale 11-02-2004 04:48 AM

Parsnips
 
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:51:32 +0000, shazzbat wrote:
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I


I too would like info on this issue - I'd love to grow parsnips - my
results over 2 years trying have been 1 parsnip!!!

My FIL has recommeneded very fresh seed, and soaking for 24hrs before
sowing - but that got me nowhere!

I'm contemplating pot sowing indoors in an effort to get the B*ggers to
germinate and then plant outdoors. It could well be my heavy damp high
clay content welsh soil affecting the germination.

TIA,

Sarah

Sarah Dale 11-02-2004 04:48 AM

Parsnips
 
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:51:32 +0000, shazzbat wrote:
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I


I too would like info on this issue - I'd love to grow parsnips - my
results over 2 years trying have been 1 parsnip!!!

My FIL has recommeneded very fresh seed, and soaking for 24hrs before
sowing - but that got me nowhere!

I'm contemplating pot sowing indoors in an effort to get the B*ggers to
germinate and then plant outdoors. It could well be my heavy damp high
clay content welsh soil affecting the germination.

TIA,

Sarah

Sarah Dale 11-02-2004 04:48 AM

Parsnips
 
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:51:32 +0000, shazzbat wrote:
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I


I too would like info on this issue - I'd love to grow parsnips - my
results over 2 years trying have been 1 parsnip!!!

My FIL has recommeneded very fresh seed, and soaking for 24hrs before
sowing - but that got me nowhere!

I'm contemplating pot sowing indoors in an effort to get the B*ggers to
germinate and then plant outdoors. It could well be my heavy damp high
clay content welsh soil affecting the germination.

TIA,

Sarah

John Towill 11-02-2004 04:01 PM

Parsnips
 

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:51:32 +0000, shazzbat wrote:
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I


I too would like info on this issue - I'd love to grow parsnips - my
results over 2 years trying have been 1 parsnip!!!

My FIL has recommeneded very fresh seed, and soaking for 24hrs before
sowing - but that got me nowhere!

I'm contemplating pot sowing indoors in an effort to get the B*ggers to
germinate and then plant outdoors. It could well be my heavy damp high
clay content welsh soil affecting the germination.

I grew parsnips (Gladiator from Suttons), very successful, we are still
eating them! Though the first ones were much longer, the second sowing
short and very fat with a tendency to fork, I think that was because the
soil was not as deep.
Mind you it may have been beginners luck, as the year before my Brussels
Sprouts were excellent, this year a poorer crop and a lack of hardness.

Cheers
John T

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John Towill 11-02-2004 04:16 PM

Parsnips
 

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:51:32 +0000, shazzbat wrote:
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I


I too would like info on this issue - I'd love to grow parsnips - my
results over 2 years trying have been 1 parsnip!!!

My FIL has recommeneded very fresh seed, and soaking for 24hrs before
sowing - but that got me nowhere!

I'm contemplating pot sowing indoors in an effort to get the B*ggers to
germinate and then plant outdoors. It could well be my heavy damp high
clay content welsh soil affecting the germination.

I grew parsnips (Gladiator from Suttons), very successful, we are still
eating them! Though the first ones were much longer, the second sowing
short and very fat with a tendency to fork, I think that was because the
soil was not as deep.
Mind you it may have been beginners luck, as the year before my Brussels
Sprouts were excellent, this year a poorer crop and a lack of hardness.

Cheers
John T

--
If emailing direct please remove
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John Towill 11-02-2004 04:16 PM

Parsnips
 

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:51:32 +0000, shazzbat wrote:
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I


I too would like info on this issue - I'd love to grow parsnips - my
results over 2 years trying have been 1 parsnip!!!

My FIL has recommeneded very fresh seed, and soaking for 24hrs before
sowing - but that got me nowhere!

I'm contemplating pot sowing indoors in an effort to get the B*ggers to
germinate and then plant outdoors. It could well be my heavy damp high
clay content welsh soil affecting the germination.

I grew parsnips (Gladiator from Suttons), very successful, we are still
eating them! Though the first ones were much longer, the second sowing
short and very fat with a tendency to fork, I think that was because the
soil was not as deep.
Mind you it may have been beginners luck, as the year before my Brussels
Sprouts were excellent, this year a poorer crop and a lack of hardness.

Cheers
John T

--
If emailing direct please remove
wet from towill.

Martin Sykes 11-02-2004 04:30 PM

Parsnips
 
"John Towill" wrote in message
. ..

I grew parsnips (Gladiator from Suttons), very successful, we are still
eating them! Though the first ones were much longer, the second sowing
short and very fat with a tendency to fork, I think that was because the
soil was not as deep.


A lot of stuff forks if the soil is too rich. My first year I had terrible
problems but the second year in the same soil gave much better crops.

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm



Martin Sykes 11-02-2004 05:15 PM

Parsnips
 
"John Towill" wrote in message
. ..

I grew parsnips (Gladiator from Suttons), very successful, we are still
eating them! Though the first ones were much longer, the second sowing
short and very fat with a tendency to fork, I think that was because the
soil was not as deep.


A lot of stuff forks if the soil is too rich. My first year I had terrible
problems but the second year in the same soil gave much better crops.

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm



shazzbat 12-02-2004 11:33 PM

Parsnips
 

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"John Towill" wrote in message
. ..

I grew parsnips (Gladiator from Suttons), very successful, we are still
eating them! Though the first ones were much longer, the second sowing
short and very fat with a tendency to fork, I think that was because the
soil was not as deep.


A lot of stuff forks if the soil is too rich. My first year I had terrible
problems but the second year in the same soil gave much better crops.

OK, thanks everyone, I'll try some of those ideas.

Steve



shazzbat 12-02-2004 11:33 PM

Parsnips
 

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"John Towill" wrote in message
. ..

I grew parsnips (Gladiator from Suttons), very successful, we are still
eating them! Though the first ones were much longer, the second sowing
short and very fat with a tendency to fork, I think that was because the
soil was not as deep.


A lot of stuff forks if the soil is too rich. My first year I had terrible
problems but the second year in the same soil gave much better crops.

OK, thanks everyone, I'll try some of those ideas.

Steve



shazzbat 12-02-2004 11:33 PM

Parsnips
 

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"John Towill" wrote in message
. ..

I grew parsnips (Gladiator from Suttons), very successful, we are still
eating them! Though the first ones were much longer, the second sowing
short and very fat with a tendency to fork, I think that was because the
soil was not as deep.


A lot of stuff forks if the soil is too rich. My first year I had terrible
problems but the second year in the same soil gave much better crops.

OK, thanks everyone, I'll try some of those ideas.

Steve



Bob Hobden 12-02-2004 11:34 PM

Parsnips
 

"shazzbat" wrote in message ...
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I
have tried several varieties including tender and true, Avon resister and
student. This year I am intending to try the method of germinating them on
wet tissue paper and then transplanting. Has anybody tried this? With what
success? And how big do you let them get before planting out?


The best method Ive tried for growing Parsnips was from the "Kitchen Garden"
magazine a few years ago.
Get yourself a stock of old clean potting compost, then mark your row, every
9inches push a rod into the soil to a good depth and push the rod around
until you have made a deep cone shaped hole, fill this with your potting
compost, tamping it down lightly to ensure no air pockets. Then plant three
seeds on the top of each hole covering lightly with more compost.
Keep the row moist and eventually you will see germination, they are slow to
germinate, it take weeks. Reduce the plants to one per hole and await a
harvest.
Last year was about the driest and hottest I've ever known and we got the
best crop of perfectly clean parsnips ever.

--
Regards
Bob

Use a useful Screen Saver...
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
and find intelligent life amongst the stars



Bob Hobden 12-02-2004 11:34 PM

Parsnips
 

"shazzbat" wrote in message ...
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I
have tried several varieties including tender and true, Avon resister and
student. This year I am intending to try the method of germinating them on
wet tissue paper and then transplanting. Has anybody tried this? With what
success? And how big do you let them get before planting out?


The best method Ive tried for growing Parsnips was from the "Kitchen Garden"
magazine a few years ago.
Get yourself a stock of old clean potting compost, then mark your row, every
9inches push a rod into the soil to a good depth and push the rod around
until you have made a deep cone shaped hole, fill this with your potting
compost, tamping it down lightly to ensure no air pockets. Then plant three
seeds on the top of each hole covering lightly with more compost.
Keep the row moist and eventually you will see germination, they are slow to
germinate, it take weeks. Reduce the plants to one per hole and await a
harvest.
Last year was about the driest and hottest I've ever known and we got the
best crop of perfectly clean parsnips ever.

--
Regards
Bob

Use a useful Screen Saver...
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
and find intelligent life amongst the stars



Bob Hobden 12-02-2004 11:34 PM

Parsnips
 

"shazzbat" wrote in message ...
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show. I
have tried several varieties including tender and true, Avon resister and
student. This year I am intending to try the method of germinating them on
wet tissue paper and then transplanting. Has anybody tried this? With what
success? And how big do you let them get before planting out?


The best method Ive tried for growing Parsnips was from the "Kitchen Garden"
magazine a few years ago.
Get yourself a stock of old clean potting compost, then mark your row, every
9inches push a rod into the soil to a good depth and push the rod around
until you have made a deep cone shaped hole, fill this with your potting
compost, tamping it down lightly to ensure no air pockets. Then plant three
seeds on the top of each hole covering lightly with more compost.
Keep the row moist and eventually you will see germination, they are slow to
germinate, it take weeks. Reduce the plants to one per hole and await a
harvest.
Last year was about the driest and hottest I've ever known and we got the
best crop of perfectly clean parsnips ever.

--
Regards
Bob

Use a useful Screen Saver...
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
and find intelligent life amongst the stars



shazzbat 13-02-2004 02:50 PM

Parsnips
 

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"shazzbat" wrote in message ...
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show.

I
have tried several varieties including tender and true, Avon resister

and
student. This year I am intending to try the method of germinating them

on
wet tissue paper and then transplanting. Has anybody tried this? With

what
success? And how big do you let them get before planting out?


The best method Ive tried for growing Parsnips was from the "Kitchen

Garden"
magazine a few years ago.
Get yourself a stock of old clean potting compost, then mark your row,

every
9inches push a rod into the soil to a good depth and push the rod around
until you have made a deep cone shaped hole, fill this with your potting
compost, tamping it down lightly to ensure no air pockets. Then plant

three
seeds on the top of each hole covering lightly with more compost.
Keep the row moist and eventually you will see germination, they are slow

to
germinate, it take weeks. Reduce the plants to one per hole and await a
harvest.
Last year was about the driest and hottest I've ever known and we got the
best crop of perfectly clean parsnips ever.

I can definitely see myself trying that. I'd heard of the principle of
making the cone shape etc, but only in relation to show standard carrots.

Thanks

Steve



shazzbat 13-02-2004 02:50 PM

Parsnips
 

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"shazzbat" wrote in message ...
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show.

I
have tried several varieties including tender and true, Avon resister

and
student. This year I am intending to try the method of germinating them

on
wet tissue paper and then transplanting. Has anybody tried this? With

what
success? And how big do you let them get before planting out?


The best method Ive tried for growing Parsnips was from the "Kitchen

Garden"
magazine a few years ago.
Get yourself a stock of old clean potting compost, then mark your row,

every
9inches push a rod into the soil to a good depth and push the rod around
until you have made a deep cone shaped hole, fill this with your potting
compost, tamping it down lightly to ensure no air pockets. Then plant

three
seeds on the top of each hole covering lightly with more compost.
Keep the row moist and eventually you will see germination, they are slow

to
germinate, it take weeks. Reduce the plants to one per hole and await a
harvest.
Last year was about the driest and hottest I've ever known and we got the
best crop of perfectly clean parsnips ever.

I can definitely see myself trying that. I'd heard of the principle of
making the cone shape etc, but only in relation to show standard carrots.

Thanks

Steve



shazzbat 13-02-2004 02:50 PM

Parsnips
 

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"shazzbat" wrote in message ...
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show.

I
have tried several varieties including tender and true, Avon resister

and
student. This year I am intending to try the method of germinating them

on
wet tissue paper and then transplanting. Has anybody tried this? With

what
success? And how big do you let them get before planting out?


The best method Ive tried for growing Parsnips was from the "Kitchen

Garden"
magazine a few years ago.
Get yourself a stock of old clean potting compost, then mark your row,

every
9inches push a rod into the soil to a good depth and push the rod around
until you have made a deep cone shaped hole, fill this with your potting
compost, tamping it down lightly to ensure no air pockets. Then plant

three
seeds on the top of each hole covering lightly with more compost.
Keep the row moist and eventually you will see germination, they are slow

to
germinate, it take weeks. Reduce the plants to one per hole and await a
harvest.
Last year was about the driest and hottest I've ever known and we got the
best crop of perfectly clean parsnips ever.

I can definitely see myself trying that. I'd heard of the principle of
making the cone shape etc, but only in relation to show standard carrots.

Thanks

Steve



shazzbat 13-02-2004 02:51 PM

Parsnips
 

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"shazzbat" wrote in message ...
I have had a very low success rate with parsnips, they just don't show.

I
have tried several varieties including tender and true, Avon resister

and
student. This year I am intending to try the method of germinating them

on
wet tissue paper and then transplanting. Has anybody tried this? With

what
success? And how big do you let them get before planting out?


The best method Ive tried for growing Parsnips was from the "Kitchen

Garden"
magazine a few years ago.
Get yourself a stock of old clean potting compost, then mark your row,

every
9inches push a rod into the soil to a good depth and push the rod around
until you have made a deep cone shaped hole, fill this with your potting
compost, tamping it down lightly to ensure no air pockets. Then plant

three
seeds on the top of each hole covering lightly with more compost.
Keep the row moist and eventually you will see germination, they are slow

to
germinate, it take weeks. Reduce the plants to one per hole and await a
harvest.
Last year was about the driest and hottest I've ever known and we got the
best crop of perfectly clean parsnips ever.

I can definitely see myself trying that. I'd heard of the principle of
making the cone shape etc, but only in relation to show standard carrots.

Thanks

Steve




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