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Sacha 08-12-2003 10:49 PM

Holly ID, please
 
Some years ago, Ray was given a holly bush. It has a *very* small, very
dark green leaf and is now no more than 4.5 feet in height. It could easily
be clipped to make a topiary interest. BUT, nobody could provide a name.
It has no berries, so perhaps it's a lonely holly bush? Any ideas as to ID?
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Sacha
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Jaques d'Alltrades 09-12-2003 01:04 AM

Holly ID, please
 
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from Sacha contains these words:

Some years ago, Ray was given a holly bush. It has a *very* small, very
dark green leaf and is now no more than 4.5 feet in height. It could easily
be clipped to make a topiary interest. BUT, nobody could provide a name.
It has no berries, so perhaps it's a lonely holly bush? Any ideas as to ID?


I believe there's a Japanese holly which has very small leaves.

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iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Alan Gould 09-12-2003 06:02 AM

Holly ID, please
 
In article , Sacha
writes
Some years ago, Ray was given a holly bush. It has a *very* small, very
dark green leaf and is now no more than 4.5 feet in height. It could easily
be clipped to make a topiary interest. BUT, nobody could provide a name.
It has no berries, so perhaps it's a lonely holly bush? Any ideas as to ID?


According to RHS Encs, there are over 400 species of Ilex (Holly). They
can be evergreen or deciduous, fully or half-hardy and they may grow as
trees, shrubs or climbers. Quote: "Almost all [Ilex] plants are
unisexual, and to obtain fruits [berries] on a female plant a male also
needs to be grown." and "Most holly leaves are simple and alternate,
with spine toothed, spiny or entire margins."

Your bush could be a small leaved dwarf or a slow growing variety
without a pollinating partner. Leaf shape would help ID.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

Spider 09-12-2003 12:13 PM

Holly ID, please
 
Hello Sacha,
There is a small-leaved holly which is often recommended as a subject for
topiary. It is called Ilex crenata. Its leaves are not usually dark green,
but the variety 'Mariesii' has darker, duller leaves than most. It is
*very* slow growing, but may eventually reach 2m.
Hope this helps.
Spider
Sacha wrote in message
.. .
Some years ago, Ray was given a holly bush. It has a *very* small, very
dark green leaf and is now no more than 4.5 feet in height. It could

easily
be clipped to make a topiary interest. BUT, nobody could provide a name.
It has no berries, so perhaps it's a lonely holly bush? Any ideas as to

ID?
--

Sacha
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Nick Wagg 09-12-2003 02:33 PM

Holly ID, please
 
The Holly and the ID...
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Nick Wagg

martin 09-12-2003 03:05 PM

Holly ID, please
 
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:16:12 +0000, Nick Wagg
wrote:

The Holly and the ID...


oh you are a seasonal wagg ;-)
--
Martin

K 09-12-2003 03:33 PM

Holly ID, please
 

"Nick Wagg" wrote in message
...
: The Holly and the ID...
: --
: Nick Wagg

Oh! You are a wag :O)

K



Nick Wagg 09-12-2003 04:43 PM

Holly ID, please
 
martin wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:16:12 +0000, Nick Wagg
wrote:

The Holly and the ID...


oh you are a seasonal wagg ;-)
--
Martin


Thank you berry much.
--
Nick Wagg

martin 09-12-2003 05:02 PM

Holly ID, please
 
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:40:49 +0000, Nick Wagg
wrote:

martin wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:16:12 +0000, Nick Wagg
wrote:

The Holly and the ID...


oh you are a seasonal wagg ;-)
--
Martin


Thank you berry much.


Code in de nose too?
--
Martin

Jaques d'Alltrades 09-12-2003 06:03 PM

Holly ID, please
 
The message
from Nick Wagg contains these words:
martin wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:16:12 +0000, Nick Wagg
wrote:

The Holly and the ID...


oh you are a seasonal wagg ;-)
--
Martin


Thank you berry much.


That's thorn it. Another puny exchange...

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Rod 09-12-2003 06:32 PM

Holly ID, please
 
Sacha wrote:

Some years ago, Ray was given a holly bush. It has a *very* small, very
dark green leaf and is now no more than 4.5 feet in height. It could easily
be clipped to make a topiary interest. BUT, nobody could provide a name.
It has no berries, so perhaps it's a lonely holly bush? Any ideas as to ID?


Ilex crenata? Quite a few forms to choose from - sounds like a god bet. Yes I've
often thought they could be used in many of the situations where you might
otherwise use Box. Less clipping and no awful smell. We've got a nice little
fastigiate form here.
--
Rod
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/

Michael Berridge 09-12-2003 10:49 PM

Holly ID, please
 

Sacha wrote in message ...
Some years ago, Ray was given a holly bush. It has a *very* small,

very
dark green leaf and is now no more than 4.5 feet in height. It could

easily
be clipped to make a topiary interest. BUT, nobody could provide a

name.
It has no berries, so perhaps it's a lonely holly bush? Any ideas as

to ID?
--

Are you sure it's a holly, Cretan oak has leaves that are very similar
to holly, small and dark green. doesn't grow very tall.

Mike
www.british-naturism.org.uk





Sacha 10-12-2003 12:33 AM

Holly ID, please
 
Spider9/12/03 12:07

Hello Sacha,
There is a small-leaved holly which is often recommended as a subject for
topiary. It is called Ilex crenata. Its leaves are not usually dark green,
but the variety 'Mariesii' has darker, duller leaves than most. It is
*very* slow growing, but may eventually reach 2m.
Hope this helps.
Spider


Thank you. I'll get my husband to look that one up tomorrow. Sounds
promising except for the 2 metres - at least so far.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
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Sacha 10-12-2003 12:33 AM

Holly ID, please
 
Michael Berridge9/12/03 10:44


Sacha wrote in message ...
Some years ago, Ray was given a holly bush. It has a *very* small,

very
dark green leaf and is now no more than 4.5 feet in height. It could

easily
be clipped to make a topiary interest. BUT, nobody could provide a

name.
It has no berries, so perhaps it's a lonely holly bush? Any ideas as

to ID?
--

Are you sure it's a holly, Cretan oak has leaves that are very similar
to holly, small and dark green. doesn't grow very tall.

Mike
www.british-naturism.org.uk



No, definitely a holly. I know the oak you mean and have seen it in Greece
but this isn't it.
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Sacha
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