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Published letter:

Dear Sir

Birds at Risk from the RSPB

I agree wholeheartedly with R Shanks' letter last week that birds should be
protected from developers but would add that they also need protection from the
RSPB.

Earlier this year, I came across a British Association for Shooting and
Conservation web page, where it was revealed that shooters were "managing" a
reserve for the RSPB. Within a day of me bringing this to the attention of an
Internet public forum, the page was removed. Following a lengthy telephone
call to the RSPB Scottish headquarters voicing my concern, I wrote to them
asking if they would identify the location of this reserve, where wildfowl were
being shot. They didn't reply.

Consequently, I started to do some research and found that shooting tenants on
their Abernethy Reserve kill about 400 red grouse each year. The RSPB's
explanation for this is, "it is good for public relations as the reserve is
then not seen as divorced from normal country pursuits". It seems the lives of
game birds are expendable unless, as in the case of the capercaillie and black
grouse, they are relatively rare and attract millions of pounds to the
organisation in government grants, donations and publicity.
More recently, I came across a message from a serving police officer to a
wildfowling forum, which stated; "I shoot over marches owned by the RSPB. They
lease the Humber wildfowlers the shooting on there and I suppose we sort of
police them for the RSPB". If this killing is taking place from Abernethy to
Humberside and beyond, one can only speculate how widespread the shooting of
birds is on RSPB reserves.

The RSPB also kill and advocate the killing of various species of wildlife on
their reserves and elsewhere for questionable conservation benefits, yet when
asked to provide an environmental impact assessment of their overall effect on
the natural environment, in terms of their own activities, fail to do so.

Reserves for wildlife should be safe havens; not killing fields.


Angus Macmillan
Roots-of-Blood Campaign
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org.uk

" First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
then they lose". Mahatma Gandhi.

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On 10 Dec 2003 23:10:07 GMT, (AMacmil304) wrote:

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More recently, I came across a message from a serving police officer to a
wildfowling forum, which stated; "I shoot over marches owned by the RSPB.

Wow! That's tough policing!



--
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http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

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The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

No idea but it seems I'd already plonked the sender so didn't see it
anyway.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

No idea but it seems I'd already plonked the sender so didn't see it
anyway.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

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In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

Don't know, but note that "published" can merely mean published on a
newsgroup on the internet. It isn't evidence that it has been published
in a newspaper.

--
Malcolm Ogilvie

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from "Cerumen" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

No idea but it seems I'd already plonked the sender so didn't see it
anyway.

Lucky you.

I guess it's a standard litter you can lift wholesale from some 'animal
rights' wibble.

I hadn't had the pleasure of that particular cvaxfghssfcernqre'f
acquaintance. Nor will again, with any luck.

--
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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
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The message
from Malcolm Ogilvie contains these words:
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

Don't know, but note that "published" can merely mean published on a
newsgroup on the internet. It isn't evidence that it has been published
in a newspaper.

What has that got to do with the price of eggs?

--
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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from Malcolm Ogilvie contains these words:
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

Don't know, but note that "published" can merely mean published on a
newsgroup on the internet. It isn't evidence that it has been
published
in a newspaper.

What has that got to do with the price of eggs?

Nearly two Euro a dozen here
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

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"AMacmil304" wrote in message
...
Published letter:

Dear Sir

Birds at Risk from the RSPB

I agree wholeheartedly with R Shanks' letter last week that birds should
be
protected from developers but would add that they also need protection
from the
RSPB.

Earlier this year, I came across a British Association for Shooting and
Conservation web page, where it was revealed that shooters were "managing"
a
reserve for the RSPB. Within a day of me bringing this to the attention
of an
Internet public forum, the page was removed. Following a lengthy
telephone
call to the RSPB Scottish headquarters voicing my concern, I wrote to them
asking if they would identify the location of this reserve, where wildfowl
were
being shot. They didn't reply.

Consequently, I started to do some research and found that shooting
tenants on
their Abernethy Reserve kill about 400 red grouse each year. The RSPB's
explanation for this is, "it is good for public relations as the reserve
is
then not seen as divorced from normal country pursuits". It seems the
lives of
game birds are expendable unless, as in the case of the capercaillie and
black
grouse, they are relatively rare and attract millions of pounds to the
organisation in government grants, donations and publicity.
More recently, I came across a message from a serving police officer to a
wildfowling forum, which stated; "I shoot over marches owned by the RSPB.
They
lease the Humber wildfowlers the shooting on there and I suppose we sort
of
police them for the RSPB". If this killing is taking place from Abernethy
to
Humberside and beyond, one can only speculate how widespread the shooting
of
birds is on RSPB reserves.

The RSPB also kill and advocate the killing of various species of wildlife
on
their reserves and elsewhere for questionable conservation benefits, yet
when
asked to provide an environmental impact assessment of their overall
effect on
the natural environment, in terms of their own activities, fail to do so.

Reserves for wildlife should be safe havens; not killing fields.

This grist has been ground over and over in this newsgroup to such an extent
that it deserves not to be replied to in terms other than those I am
employing here.

Franz

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from Malcolm Ogilvie contains these words:
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

Don't know, but note that "published" can merely mean published on a
newsgroup on the internet. It isn't evidence that it has been
published
in a newspaper.

What has that got to do with the price of eggs?

Nearly two Euro a dozen here
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

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"AMacmil304" wrote in message
...
Published letter:

Dear Sir

Birds at Risk from the RSPB

I agree wholeheartedly with R Shanks' letter last week that birds should
be
protected from developers but would add that they also need protection
from the
RSPB.

Earlier this year, I came across a British Association for Shooting and
Conservation web page, where it was revealed that shooters were "managing"
a
reserve for the RSPB. Within a day of me bringing this to the attention
of an
Internet public forum, the page was removed. Following a lengthy
telephone
call to the RSPB Scottish headquarters voicing my concern, I wrote to them
asking if they would identify the location of this reserve, where wildfowl
were
being shot. They didn't reply.

Consequently, I started to do some research and found that shooting
tenants on
their Abernethy Reserve kill about 400 red grouse each year. The RSPB's
explanation for this is, "it is good for public relations as the reserve
is
then not seen as divorced from normal country pursuits". It seems the
lives of
game birds are expendable unless, as in the case of the capercaillie and
black
grouse, they are relatively rare and attract millions of pounds to the
organisation in government grants, donations and publicity.
More recently, I came across a message from a serving police officer to a
wildfowling forum, which stated; "I shoot over marches owned by the RSPB.
They
lease the Humber wildfowlers the shooting on there and I suppose we sort
of
police them for the RSPB". If this killing is taking place from Abernethy
to
Humberside and beyond, one can only speculate how widespread the shooting
of
birds is on RSPB reserves.

The RSPB also kill and advocate the killing of various species of wildlife
on
their reserves and elsewhere for questionable conservation benefits, yet
when
asked to provide an environmental impact assessment of their overall
effect on
the natural environment, in terms of their own activities, fail to do so.

Reserves for wildlife should be safe havens; not killing fields.

This grist has been ground over and over in this newsgroup to such an extent
that it deserves not to be replied to in terms other than those I am
employing here.

Franz

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The message
from "Cerumen" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from Malcolm Ogilvie contains these words:
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from (AMacmil304) contains these words:

Published letter:

Dear Sir

Plonk.

How many times has that been posted?

Don't know, but note that "published" can merely mean published on a
newsgroup on the internet. It isn't evidence that it has been
published
in a newspaper.

What has that got to do with the price of eggs?

Nearly two Euro a dozen here

Half past three.

--
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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

This grist has been ground over and over in this newsgroup to such an extent
that it deserves not to be replied to in terms other than those I am
employing here.

What, like requoting the lot?

--
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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

This grist has been ground over and over in this newsgroup to such an
extent
that it deserves not to be replied to in terms other than those I am
employing here.

What, like requoting the lot?

Ah, that probably explains why he appears to be in my kill file as well
then.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland