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On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I
read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com |
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"Steve Harris" wrote in message ... On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Perhaps ribbons of coloured paper might do the job. Something for the organic growers to try out? Franz |
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:28:07 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Perhaps ribbons of coloured paper might do the job. Something for the organic growers to try out? :o)) -- Martin |
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Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat
aphids. Stephen http://uk.geocities.com/giftideasuk/ http://uk.geocities.com/gardeningforpleasureuk/ "martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:28:07 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Perhaps ribbons of coloured paper might do the job. Something for the organic growers to try out? :o)) -- Martin |
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Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat
aphids. Stephen http://uk.geocities.com/giftideasuk/ http://uk.geocities.com/gardeningforpleasureuk/ "martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:28:07 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Perhaps ribbons of coloured paper might do the job. Something for the organic growers to try out? :o)) -- Martin |
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Steve Harris7/1/04 8:00
On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com One of Ray's Christmas presents was "Garlic Loves Roses" - interesting addition to your search. ;-) -- Sacha (remove the 'x' to email me) |
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Janet Baraclough .. wrote:
The message from (Steve Harris) contains these words: On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) I've seen aphids on yellow and orange roses and yellow honeysuckle, and stuck on those bright yellow sticky insect trap-cards. That suggests to me that the colour is not an aphid deterrent. I agree. Those with a memory for detail and trivia may recall my "Aphid apocalypse" post from last summer - my yellow and orange nasturtiums were very definitely NOT avoided by aphids. I guess it could be something to do with the plants being practically black with the little blighters... Certainly didn't work for me! |
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I have always used a variety of different marigolds around my veggies to get rid of aphids. I always thought that this companion planting worked because hover flies were attracted by the smell of marigolds rather than the colour. The hover flies then eat the aphids. They also look pretty in amongst the leaves of courgettes and tomatoes, etc. I usually start the marigolds off about two or three weeks before the veggie seedlings in a greenhouse, for planting out at the same time.
I also use borage (which is blue or white) between tomatoes and strawberries, which really attracts hover flies (for eating the insects) and especially bees (for pollination). This suggests to me that it is not the colour of the plant. They are also quite pretty flowers on a reasonably tall plant, and look quite impressive in a strawberry bed. For loads more information on companion plants just search on the web. For flower beds, marigolds are very useful, and if you don't like them, you can hide them at the back of a border or behind a taller plant. |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:51 +0000 (GMT), Steve Harris wrote:
On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com My yellow motorbike attracts aphids like nothing else I know. The red one is mostly ignored. -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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Steve Harris wrote:
I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. That's right. If they ate them all, then they would have nothing left to eat. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. Ditto. The aim of attracting predators of pests is not to wipe out the pests but to reduce them to manageable levels. So I sprayed. Job done. Joni Mitchell sang "give me spots on my apples, leave me the birds and the bees". Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Your mileage obviously varied but sounds like you were trying to hit a different target. -- Nick Wagg |
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"Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. Franz |
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"Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. Franz |
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:52:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. not quite... Our cats have totally eliminated mice and voles from our garden and house. It has taken 11 years. We trained them to do the same with aphids and slugs but without success. We conclude that the cats are too old. -- Martin |
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"Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. Franz |
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:52:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. not quite... Our cats have totally eliminated mice and voles from our garden and house. It has taken 11 years. We trained them to do the same with aphids and slugs but without success. We conclude that the cats are too old. -- Martin |
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:52:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. not quite... Our cats have totally eliminated mice and voles from our garden and house. It has taken 11 years. We trained them to do the same with aphids and slugs but without success. We conclude that the cats are too old. -- Martin |
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:52:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. not quite... Our cats have totally eliminated mice and voles from our garden and house. It has taken 11 years. We trained them to do the same with aphids and slugs but without success. We conclude that the cats are too old. -- Martin |
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On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com I'm betting that's not strictly true! Could give it a go though. Jason -- Check out my ebay auctions for Passifora caerulea and edulis seeds and Morning Glory (Star of Yelta) seeds. http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....sort=3&rows=50 |
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On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com I'm betting that's not strictly true! Could give it a go though. Jason -- Check out my ebay auctions for Passifora caerulea and edulis seeds and Morning Glory (Star of Yelta) seeds. http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....sort=3&rows=50 |
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On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com I'm betting that's not strictly true! Could give it a go though. Jason -- Check out my ebay auctions for Passifora caerulea and edulis seeds and Morning Glory (Star of Yelta) seeds. http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....sort=3&rows=50 |
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I've just bought a tube of little beasties from this company:-
http://www.defenders.co.uk To get rid of some spider mites I have on some indoor plants. I don't know if it will work, but they say they have predators for aphids too - parasitic wasps and the like which they will send you in various quantities. I'll let you know if it works on spider mites . . . Andrew "JP" wrote in message ... Steve Harris wrote: On http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/cgi-bin/p...opaeolum+majus I read "Research indicates that aphids flying over plants with orange or yellow flowers do not stop, nor do they prey on plants growing next to or above the flowers[201]. " [201] Allardice.P. A - Z of Companion Planting. Cassell Publishers Ltd. 1993 ISBN 0-304-34324-2 So could one protect crops from aphids by putting out plastic flowers? (which might be more convenient) Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com I'm betting that's not strictly true! Could give it a go though. Jason -- Check out my ebay auctions for Passifora caerulea and edulis seeds and Morning Glory (Star of Yelta) seeds. http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....userid=murder1 man&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 |
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"martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:52:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. not quite... Our cats have totally eliminated mice and voles from our garden and house. It has taken 11 years. We trained them to do the same with aphids and slugs but without success. We conclude that the cats are too old. {:-)) Franz |
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"martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:52:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Stephen Goodall) wrote: Try marigolds they also attract hoverflies. I am told Hoverfly grubs eat aphids. Yeah, I've been told that too. It's all over the Internet so it must be true. Only it isn't. I had loads of hoverflies before I even bought a packet of marigold seed. Once the marigolds were up, the hoverflies ignored them. Maybe they did eat a few aphids but not all. Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. So I sprayed. Job done. Evidence-Based Gardening anyone? Yes: Pest control by the use of predators is a load of codswallop. not quite... Our cats have totally eliminated mice and voles from our garden and house. It has taken 11 years. We trained them to do the same with aphids and slugs but without success. We conclude that the cats are too old. {:-)) Franz |
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In article , Steve
Harris writes Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. It's the ladybird larvae that eat the aphid. And, yes, I've seen them. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , Steve
Harris writes Then it's also well known that ladybirds eat aphids. I had loads of both but the ladybirds couldn't be arsed to wander over to the aphid-ridden plants. It's the ladybird larvae that eat the aphid. And, yes, I've seen them. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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(Martin Bates) wrote: For loads more information on companion plants just search on the web. It illustrates the problem very nicely! Take a look at http://www.gardensablaze.com/Compani...anionYield.htm which has Beet in both the "COMPATIBLE" and "INCOMPATIBLE" columns for Beans, Pole! Less extremely, I went looking for good companions for Tomatoes and found these snippets: Tomato plant with Parsley, asparagus, marigold, nasturtium, carrots, limas Don't plant with corn, dill Tomato: Carrots, onions and parsley are good companion plants. Keep the cabbage and cauliflower away from them. Marigolds interplanted with tomatoes help the tomatoes grow and produce better Basil -use with tomatoes Borage -use around tomatoes Tomato: Chives, onion, parsley, asparagus, marigold, nasturtium, carrot, limas. Tomatoes should be planted near Marigolds, Asparagus, Borage and Horehound, but never planted close to Potatoes or Tobacco. Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com |
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:33 +0000 (GMT), (Steve Harris)
wrote: In article , (Nick Wagg) wrote: Ditto. The aim of attracting predators of pests is not to wipe out the pests but to reduce them to manageable levels. Sure but the ladybirds never went near the aphids. Is there any real science on this? Science? LOL! -- Martin |
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In article , Andy Hunt
writes I've just bought a tube of little beasties from this company:- http://www.defenders.co.uk To get rid of some spider mites I have on some indoor plants. I don't know if it will work, but they say they have predators for aphids too - parasitic wasps and the like which they will send you in various quantities. I'll let you know if it works on spider mites . . . Andrew They didn't on mine - there was no visible decline in the number of spider mites and |I treated the plants twice! The only thing that did work (the plants were actually rooted cuttings of shrubs and perennials|) was to defoliate the worst affected plants and cut them back, then feed them if they had sufficient root balls. This seemed to get rid of the spider mite or at least cut it down, because the new growth was clearly unspider mited and seemed to stay that way. Since then I've taken everything out of the greenhouse and hosed it, Jeyes fluided it, smoked it and scrubbed it and I'm hoping that will kill the little beggars. I also had spider mite with a vengeance on some very strong growing Ipomea plants up a southern facing wall. There were tons of lowers on all the plants but the leaves looked awful. Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Andy Hunt
writes I've just bought a tube of little beasties from this company:- http://www.defenders.co.uk To get rid of some spider mites I have on some indoor plants. I don't know if it will work, but they say they have predators for aphids too - parasitic wasps and the like which they will send you in various quantities. I'll let you know if it works on spider mites . . . Andrew They didn't on mine - there was no visible decline in the number of spider mites and |I treated the plants twice! The only thing that did work (the plants were actually rooted cuttings of shrubs and perennials|) was to defoliate the worst affected plants and cut them back, then feed them if they had sufficient root balls. This seemed to get rid of the spider mite or at least cut it down, because the new growth was clearly unspider mited and seemed to stay that way. Since then I've taken everything out of the greenhouse and hosed it, Jeyes fluided it, smoked it and scrubbed it and I'm hoping that will kill the little beggars. I also had spider mite with a vengeance on some very strong growing Ipomea plants up a southern facing wall. There were tons of lowers on all the plants but the leaves looked awful. Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Janet Tweedy
writes In article , Andy Hunt writes I've just bought a tube of little beasties from this company:- http://www.defenders.co.uk To get rid of some spider mites I have on some indoor plants. I don't know if it will work, but they say they have predators for aphids too - parasitic wasps and the like which they will send you in various quantities. I'll let you know if it works on spider mites . . . Andrew They didn't on mine - there was no visible decline in the number of spider mites and |I treated the plants twice! It worked on mine. They take a while to work, and you keep looking at plants and seeing a lot of spider mites and no predators. But after a couple of months, new leaves are appearing which are looking a whole lot more healthy. I'm pleased with it. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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