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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:24:11 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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they still shouldn't be disposing of the sheath in this manner.

Put forward one good reason why not?

because the world is not man's dustbin

Empirical evidence suggests otherwise - however, sensible re-use of
materials is not the same as dumping.

True. But the PVC is going to get dumped some time or other.

Franz

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Do you really think anyone is going to sort the PVC from the rottable
stuff
when the time comes?

When you dig your garden, do you take all the non-organic matter out?
There is a local authority somewhere oop North (can't unforget where)
which pioneered recycling of household and industrial waste.

One of the operations was to compost anything organic, separate soil,
dust etc, comminute plastics and mix the lot together as soil
conditioner/potting compost.

That sounds irresponsible.

The plastic pieces acted in the same way as stones in soil: they helped
to retain moisture while facilitating drainage. As a side-benefit, the
compost was much lighter than soil-based ones.

Most stones don't leach out undesirable substances over time.

Franz

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Do you really think anyone is going to sort the PVC from the rottable
stuff
when the time comes?

No. I expect they will clear the whole lot and dump it in a landfill. I'm
not saying I like that as a solution but if it is going to go in landfilll
anyway as there doesn't seem to be any other way of disposing of it, then
what does it matter if it is used for something useful first? I don't see
a
lot of complaints when Alan Titchmarsh uses expanded polystyrene as
drainage
in his pots. I bet that doesn't get untangled from the roots and soil at
the
end of its life either.

Expanded polystyrene is very much more stable than PVC and does not have a
plasticiser.

Franz

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Just a guess but they probably recycle the copper as it's useful and
just
chop up the plastic sheath?

Disposing of unrottable PVC in this way is just as irresponsible. I
doubt
very much if it is legal to do so.

Someone tell The Good Lord that all the sand and stones he left on the
bedrock might get Him into trouble.......

The sand and stones he left on the bedrock has proven by its age that it is
indeed safe in a gardening soil.

Franz

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they still shouldn't be disposing of the sheath in this manner.

Put forward one good reason why not?

Because if it eventually ends up in compost, a lot of garden soil is going
to get poisoned when the plasticiser leaches out.

I doubt it. Especially at the rate it would leach.

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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

One of the operations was to compost anything organic, separate soil,
dust etc, comminute plastics and mix the lot together as soil
conditioner/potting compost.

That sounds irresponsible.

The plastic pieces acted in the same way as stones in soil: they helped
to retain moisture while facilitating drainage. As a side-benefit, the
compost was much lighter than soil-based ones.

Most stones don't leach out undesirable substances over time.

Most plastics don't either.

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Rusty
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
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Just a guess but they probably recycle the copper as it's useful and
just
chop up the plastic sheath?

Disposing of unrottable PVC in this way is just as irresponsible. I
doubt
very much if it is legal to do so.

Someone tell The Good Lord that all the sand and stones he left on the
bedrock might get Him into trouble.......

The sand and stones he left on the bedrock has proven by its age that it is
indeed safe in a gardening soil.

We'll continue this discussion in a few million years then....

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Rusty
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:25:07 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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they still shouldn't be disposing of the sheath in this manner.

Put forward one good reason why not?

Because if it eventually ends up in compost, a lot of garden soil is going
to get poisoned when the plasticiser leaches out.

I doubt it. Especially at the rate it would leach.

Do a google. Others seem concerned about it. Perhaps they are thinking
about the long term effect of land fill.
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Martin

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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:25:18 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

One of the operations was to compost anything organic, separate soil,
dust etc, comminute plastics and mix the lot together as soil
conditioner/potting compost.

That sounds irresponsible.

The plastic pieces acted in the same way as stones in soil: they helped
to retain moisture while facilitating drainage. As a side-benefit, the
compost was much lighter than soil-based ones.

Most stones don't leach out undesirable substances over time.

Most plastics don't either.

but some stones and plastics do.
--
Martin