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Old 09-02-2004, 03:11 PM
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I've just heard on the radio (so it must be true :-) ) that foxes hate
human hair, so place some in a fox hole, and away they will go, sounds too
good to be true for fox haters with fox infested gardens, but hey, it must
be worth a try.

Personally I'd welcome some (foxes I mean, not human hair)here if only they
would eat all the blasted rabbits!!!
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I've just heard on the radio (so it must be true :-) ) that foxes hate
human hair, so place some in a fox hole, and away they will go, sounds too
good to be true for fox haters with fox infested gardens, but hey, it must
be worth a try.



Hugh F-W said the same on 'River Cottage Forever' and Pippa Greenwood said
it deters deer as well on Gardener's World but one of them (Pippa I think),
added that it had to be male hair. I think they both stuffed it in old
socks/tights and/or tights and tied it to their fences.

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"John Towill" wrote in message
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I've just heard on the radio (so it must be true :-) ) that foxes hate
human hair, so place some in a fox hole, and away they will go, sounds too
good to be true for fox haters with fox infested gardens, but hey, it must
be worth a try.



Hugh F-W said the same on 'River Cottage Forever' and Pippa Greenwood said
it deters deer as well on Gardener's World but one of them (Pippa I think),
added that it had to be male hair. I think they both stuffed it in old
socks/tights and/or tights and tied it to their fences.

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Old 10-02-2004, 02:03 AM
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Hugh F-W said the same on 'River Cottage Forever' and Pippa Greenwood said
it deters deer as well on Gardener's World but one of them (Pippa I
think),
added that it had to be male hair. I think they both stuffed it in old
socks/tights and/or tights and tied it to their fences.


And it has to be renewed after heavy rain. A friend of mine in Haslemere,
Surrey used to go round barber's shops........... ;-)


My (now retired) barber used to dig the hair clippings into his garden,
and grew prize vegetables on the diet.

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Martin Sykes wrote:
"John Towill" wrote in message
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I've just heard on the radio (so it must be true :-) ) that foxes hate
human hair, so place some in a fox hole, and away they will go, sounds too
good to be true for fox haters with fox infested gardens, but hey, it must
be worth a try.




Hugh F-W said the same on 'River Cottage Forever' and Pippa Greenwood said
it deters deer as well on Gardener's World but one of them (Pippa I think),
added that it had to be male hair. I think they both stuffed it in old
socks/tights and/or tights and tied it to their fences.

Hugh F-W suggested it was the scent of humans that detered the fox, and
hair is the easiest way of distributing the scent when you are not
there. I suspect male hair is better because it is less likely to have
hair spray or perfume in it, or maybe blokes just don't wash as often so
the hair has a stonger scent?

Mind you, in a more recent program, "Tales From River Cottage", Hugh F-W
had installed an electric fence to deter the foxes, so maybe the hair
didn't really work all that well after all. A fence sounds all together
more effective.


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Old 10-02-2004, 12:47 PM
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My (now retired) barber used to dig the hair clippings into his garden,
and grew prize vegetables on the diet.


He probably wasn't doing much chemical hair treatment. These days, the
sweepings from hairdresser's floors are probably classifiable as toxic
waste.

Janet.
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My (now retired) barber used to dig the hair clippings into his garden,
and grew prize vegetables on the diet.


He probably wasn't doing much chemical hair treatment. These days, the
sweepings from hairdresser's floors are probably classifiable as toxic
waste.

Janet.
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Old 10-02-2004, 12:48 PM
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"Steve Haigh" wrote in message
...

Mind you, in a more recent program, "Tales From River Cottage", Hugh F-W
had installed an electric fence to deter the foxes, so maybe the hair
didn't really work all that well after all. A fence sounds all together
more effective.


I'm a fan of HFW even though we don't have a television but I read this
comment with some scepticism.

We've lost several pet hens over the last few years to urban fox (in the
inner city). Believe me, we've tried almost everything to prevent these
animals getting into our garden - excpet hair. Male urine was said to work,
it didn't. Renardine did work but only for a couple of days or until it
rained then it had to be renewed and it's expensive. People have suggested
traps (not a sensible solution) or guns (illegal in our setting), electric
fences have their own problems especially in respect to neighbours and other
wildlife, as has razor wire. I don't believe that hair would work.

The fox weren't hungry, they killed for fun - sport - instinct - call it
what you will. They killed and left the bodies of our loved pets, the
problem was to keep them out.

Eventually we built a legally maximum steel and chainlink fence all round
the garden. The boundaries at ground level were already protected by
concrete slabs on the neighbours' sides. Fox still got in. They were jumping
onto the wooden fence of a neighbour, walking along the top as though it
were a footpath and hopping over the corner of our fence. We solved that by
welding a row of upright steel bars round that corner and fixing loose
chicken wire along the top.

So far that's worked.

A mechanical barrier, in our experience, has been the only effective
prevention of fox ingress, it works where all the chemical ones haven't.

Mary


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"Steve Haigh" wrote in message
...

Mind you, in a more recent program, "Tales From River Cottage", Hugh F-W
had installed an electric fence to deter the foxes, so maybe the hair
didn't really work all that well after all. A fence sounds all together
more effective.


I'm a fan of HFW even though we don't have a television but I read this
comment with some scepticism.

We've lost several pet hens over the last few years to urban fox (in the
inner city). Believe me, we've tried almost everything to prevent these
animals getting into our garden - excpet hair. Male urine was said to work,
it didn't. Renardine did work but only for a couple of days or until it
rained then it had to be renewed and it's expensive. People have suggested
traps (not a sensible solution) or guns (illegal in our setting), electric
fences have their own problems especially in respect to neighbours and other
wildlife, as has razor wire. I don't believe that hair would work.

The fox weren't hungry, they killed for fun - sport - instinct - call it
what you will. They killed and left the bodies of our loved pets, the
problem was to keep them out.

Eventually we built a legally maximum steel and chainlink fence all round
the garden. The boundaries at ground level were already protected by
concrete slabs on the neighbours' sides. Fox still got in. They were jumping
onto the wooden fence of a neighbour, walking along the top as though it
were a footpath and hopping over the corner of our fence. We solved that by
welding a row of upright steel bars round that corner and fixing loose
chicken wire along the top.

So far that's worked.

A mechanical barrier, in our experience, has been the only effective
prevention of fox ingress, it works where all the chemical ones haven't.

Mary


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In article ,
Steve Haigh writes:
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| Hugh F-W suggested it was the scent of humans that detered the fox, and
| hair is the easiest way of distributing the scent when you are not
| there. I suspect male hair is better because it is less likely to have
| hair spray or perfume in it, or maybe blokes just don't wash as often so
| the hair has a stonger scent?

Boar taint.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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In article ,
Steve Haigh writes:
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| Hugh F-W suggested it was the scent of humans that detered the fox, and
| hair is the easiest way of distributing the scent when you are not
| there. I suspect male hair is better because it is less likely to have
| hair spray or perfume in it, or maybe blokes just don't wash as often so
| the hair has a stonger scent?

Boar taint.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:21:02 +0000, Steve Haigh
wrote:

Martin Sykes wrote:
"John Towill" wrote

I've just heard on the radio (so it must be true :-) ) that foxes hate
human hair, so place some in a fox hole, and away they will go, sounds too
good to be true for fox haters with fox infested gardens, but hey, it must
be worth a try.


Hugh F-W suggested it was the scent of humans that detered the fox, and
hair is the easiest way of distributing the scent when you are not
there.

Mind you, in a more recent program, "Tales From River Cottage", Hugh F-W
had installed an electric fence to deter the foxes, so maybe the hair
didn't really work all that well after all. A fence sounds all together
more effective.


Simple-sounding folk remedies are often suggested (and picked up and
retold) as deterrents for rabbits and deer. (We don't have much of a
fox problem.) Hair, urine, soap, hot-pepper sprays are all
recommended. However, experience shows that if the animal is hungry
enough, or the plant is tasty enough, the effects are minimal.
Physical barriers are about the only sure cures.

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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:21:02 +0000, Steve Haigh
wrote:

Martin Sykes wrote:
"John Towill" wrote

I've just heard on the radio (so it must be true :-) ) that foxes hate
human hair, so place some in a fox hole, and away they will go, sounds too
good to be true for fox haters with fox infested gardens, but hey, it must
be worth a try.


Hugh F-W suggested it was the scent of humans that detered the fox, and
hair is the easiest way of distributing the scent when you are not
there.

Mind you, in a more recent program, "Tales From River Cottage", Hugh F-W
had installed an electric fence to deter the foxes, so maybe the hair
didn't really work all that well after all. A fence sounds all together
more effective.


Simple-sounding folk remedies are often suggested (and picked up and
retold) as deterrents for rabbits and deer. (We don't have much of a
fox problem.) Hair, urine, soap, hot-pepper sprays are all
recommended. However, experience shows that if the animal is hungry
enough, or the plant is tasty enough, the effects are minimal.
Physical barriers are about the only sure cures.

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Mary Fisher wrote:


We've lost several pet hens over the last few years to urban fox (in the
inner city). Believe me, we've tried almost everything to prevent these
animals getting into our garden - excpet hair. Male urine was said to work,
it didn't. Renardine did work but only for a couple of days or until it
rained then it had to be renewed and it's expensive. People have suggested
traps (not a sensible solution) or guns (illegal in our setting), electric
fences have their own problems especially in respect to neighbours and other
wildlife, as has razor wire. I don't believe that hair would work.

The fox weren't hungry, they killed for fun - sport - instinct - call it
what you will. They killed and left the bodies of our loved pets, the
problem was to keep them out.

Eventually we built a legally maximum steel and chainlink fence all round
the garden. The boundaries at ground level were already protected by
concrete slabs on the neighbours' sides. Fox still got in. They were jumping
onto the wooden fence of a neighbour, walking along the top as though it
were a footpath and hopping over the corner of our fence. We solved that by
welding a row of upright steel bars round that corner and fixing loose
chicken wire along the top.

So far that's worked.

A mechanical barrier, in our experience, has been the only effective
prevention of fox ingress, it works where all the chemical ones haven't.


One way that has worked for me (for nearly five years now) is a Maremma
Sheepdog. This is a livestock guard dog and foxes (and other unwanted
visitors g) do not step on her territory. Too big for an urban garden,
though, Mary.

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"Howard Neil" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:

A mechanical barrier, in our experience, has been the only effective
prevention of fox ingress, it works where all the chemical ones haven't.


One way that has worked for me (for nearly five years now) is a Maremma
Sheepdog. This is a livestock guard dog and foxes (and other unwanted
visitors g) do not step on her territory. Too big for an urban garden,
though, Mary.


I know that's a possible solution and very suitable for a larger piece of
land, I've tried persuading Welsh daughter to have one. But for us no, we
don't want a dog. When we go off the hens take up enough room in the back of
the car, apart from the expense and hair and barking and ...

Anyway we don't really like dogs. Not that you'd have been able to tell :-)

Mary

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