On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

One black bin for general trash, a brown one for garden waste. Bins
emptied alternate weeks.
Bottles have to be taken to bottle banks, waste paper is collected
once a week and heavy rubbish collected on request.

Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

Most councils also have a recyclables collection which may or may not
include green waste. It also may or may not include glass, for safety
reasons. What may be included may also change according to current market
conditions for recycling the specific product. Newspapers usually are
included, card is often not. Many places have a Christmas tree shredding
service in the new year.

These collections are financed through council tax, which is itself the
subject of a lot of argument right now, as was the community charge (poll
tax) before it, and the rates before that.

In addition, most areas have domestic waste disposal sites where one may
take items too big for the regular collection, or green waste etc. Also old
engine oil etc. Many of these sites also sell of a lot of the second-hand
stuff.

Steve

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

One black bin for general trash, a brown one for garden waste. Bins
emptied alternate weeks.
Bottles have to be taken to bottle banks, waste paper is collected
once a week and heavy rubbish collected on request.

Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

Most councils also have a recyclables collection which may or may not
include green waste. It also may or may not include glass, for safety
reasons. What may be included may also change according to current market
conditions for recycling the specific product. Newspapers usually are
included, card is often not. Many places have a Christmas tree shredding
service in the new year.

These collections are financed through council tax, which is itself the
subject of a lot of argument right now, as was the community charge (poll
tax) before it, and the rates before that.

In addition, most areas have domestic waste disposal sites where one may
take items too big for the regular collection, or green waste etc. Also old
engine oil etc. Many of these sites also sell of a lot of the second-hand
stuff.

Steve

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:188778

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:02:57 +0100, martin wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property?

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

I've watched them pick these up. They slit the bags so the green stuff
goes into the truck, and stuff the bags into a box of some sort.

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:188778

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:02:57 +0100, martin wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property?

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

I've watched them pick these up. They slit the bags so the green stuff
goes into the truck, and stuff the bags into a box of some sort.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:38 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote:

"Frogleg" wrote

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection?

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

I just looked up images of "wheely bins" and they look pretty much the
same ('though mine are a bit shorter and fatter) as my waste bins. But
still, why would anyone load a bin into their car/truck to dump on
another's property? Our trash pickup was a 'free' part of municipal
services until 10-15 yrs ago. When they changed, there was a lot of
discussion about charging for licensed rubbish bags and/or levying a
per-bag charge. The problem of fly-tipping was a very real
expectation. However, the bins and flat-rate fee pretty much took care
of that. I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn
clippings?!

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:38 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote:

"Frogleg" wrote

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection?

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

I just looked up images of "wheely bins" and they look pretty much the
same ('though mine are a bit shorter and fatter) as my waste bins. But
still, why would anyone load a bin into their car/truck to dump on
another's property? Our trash pickup was a 'free' part of municipal
services until 10-15 yrs ago. When they changed, there was a lot of
discussion about charging for licensed rubbish bags and/or levying a
per-bag charge. The problem of fly-tipping was a very real
expectation. However, the bins and flat-rate fee pretty much took care
of that. I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn
clippings?!

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:188778

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:02:57 +0100, martin wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property?

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

I've watched them pick these up. They slit the bags so the green stuff
goes into the truck, and stuff the bags into a box of some sort.

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:188778

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:02:57 +0100, martin wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property?

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

I've watched them pick these up. They slit the bags so the green stuff
goes into the truck, and stuff the bags into a box of some sort.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:38 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote:

"Frogleg" wrote

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection?

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

I just looked up images of "wheely bins" and they look pretty much the
same ('though mine are a bit shorter and fatter) as my waste bins. But
still, why would anyone load a bin into their car/truck to dump on
another's property? Our trash pickup was a 'free' part of municipal
services until 10-15 yrs ago. When they changed, there was a lot of
discussion about charging for licensed rubbish bags and/or levying a
per-bag charge. The problem of fly-tipping was a very real
expectation. However, the bins and flat-rate fee pretty much took care
of that. I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn
clippings?!

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:04:19 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote:

Frogleg wrote

I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn
clippings?!


Our dustbin men won't collect grass cuttings. If you don't want to compost
them, you have to take them to a refuse place yourself, and the nearest one
is quite a way away.

We are in a fairly rural area, and waste services are minimal - no
recycling collections, and you have to carry your bin bags out to a
collection point rather than the dustmen visiting each house.

We don't get bins provided either.

Ah. The light dawns. I'm sure there are many different arrangements.
My city's services are very generous, considering. The Big Trucks
will pick up even things like old rolls of carpet on Garbage Day.
About the only things that must be gotten rid of independently are
construction waste and various things like paint and oil and garden
chemicals. We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're
collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than
individuals who empty bins or collect bags. The only non-mechanical
operation is collection of bagged lawn waste, where a couple of people
slit the bags and empty contents into the truck. The city next to
mine allows raking leaves to the edge of the road at certain times to
be swept/vacuumed up by special equipment. That city offers compost
and mulch for sale.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:04:19 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote:

Frogleg wrote

I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn
clippings?!


Our dustbin men won't collect grass cuttings. If you don't want to compost
them, you have to take them to a refuse place yourself, and the nearest one
is quite a way away.

We are in a fairly rural area, and waste services are minimal - no
recycling collections, and you have to carry your bin bags out to a
collection point rather than the dustmen visiting each house.

We don't get bins provided either.

Ah. The light dawns. I'm sure there are many different arrangements.
My city's services are very generous, considering. The Big Trucks
will pick up even things like old rolls of carpet on Garbage Day.
About the only things that must be gotten rid of independently are
construction waste and various things like paint and oil and garden
chemicals. We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're
collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than
individuals who empty bins or collect bags. The only non-mechanical
operation is collection of bagged lawn waste, where a couple of people
slit the bags and empty contents into the truck. The city next to
mine allows raking leaves to the edge of the road at certain times to
be swept/vacuumed up by special equipment. That city offers compost
and mulch for sale.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:04:19 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote:

Frogleg wrote

I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn
clippings?!


Our dustbin men won't collect grass cuttings. If you don't want to compost
them, you have to take them to a refuse place yourself, and the nearest one
is quite a way away.

We are in a fairly rural area, and waste services are minimal - no
recycling collections, and you have to carry your bin bags out to a
collection point rather than the dustmen visiting each house.

We don't get bins provided either.

Ah. The light dawns. I'm sure there are many different arrangements.
My city's services are very generous, considering. The Big Trucks
will pick up even things like old rolls of carpet on Garbage Day.
About the only things that must be gotten rid of independently are
construction waste and various things like paint and oil and garden
chemicals. We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're
collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than
individuals who empty bins or collect bags. The only non-mechanical
operation is collection of bagged lawn waste, where a couple of people
slit the bags and empty contents into the truck. The city next to
mine allows raking leaves to the edge of the road at certain times to
be swept/vacuumed up by special equipment. That city offers compost
and mulch for sale.