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Annelies 21-02-2004 12:48 PM

replacing old fence
 
We would like to rip a rotten overlap fence out - there is a chain link
fence right behind it keeping the next door school kids on their side
anyway. It is an East facing boundary with nothing much in front of it (yet,
remember our blank canvass?) and we would like to plant climbers which give
us our privacy back as fast and as long as possible.
The chain link fence is 7 ft high and about 80 ft long. Soil is not too bad,
bit of clay but nothing extraordinary.

Suggestions?


Annelies


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Annelies 22-02-2004 09:12 AM

replacing old fence
 
NO suggestions at all????
You expect me to believe that?

A



"Annelies" wrote in message
et...
We would like to rip a rotten overlap fence out - there is a chain link
fence right behind it keeping the next door school kids on their side
anyway. It is an East facing boundary with nothing much in front of it

(yet,
remember our blank canvass?) and we would like to plant climbers which

give
us our privacy back as fast and as long as possible.
The chain link fence is 7 ft high and about 80 ft long. Soil is not too

bad,
bit of clay but nothing extraordinary.

Suggestions?




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Sacha 22-02-2004 11:46 AM

replacing old fence
 
Annelies22/2/04 8:54

NO suggestions at all????
You expect me to believe that?

A

snip

Give us a bit of time, Annelies! This isn't a professional group, though
some people on it are professionals.
(And just as a tip, some people, including me, usually, won't answer top
posts) I'll have a think, ask my husband get back to you, as I'm sure
others will.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Sacha 22-02-2004 01:42 PM

replacing old fence
 
Sacha22/2/04 10:43
co.uk

Annelies22/2/04 8:54

NO suggestions at all????
You expect me to believe that?

A

snip

Give us a bit of time, Annelies! This isn't a professional group, though
some people on it are professionals.
(And just as a tip, some people, including me, usually, won't answer top
posts) I'll have a think, ask my husband get back to you, as I'm sure
others will.


Not much seems to be the answer, though it does depend a bit on where you
live. Could your climate take e.g. Clematis armandii? Even then, it's
pushing it. Russian vine is all that came immediately to mind but then only
if it can't out-thug something else. The problem is the boundary being
chain link - it it was a wall, some t othe prettier ivies would be
possible....
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Annelies 22-02-2004 06:43 PM

replacing old fence
 

Not much seems to be the answer, though it does depend a bit on where you
live. Could your climate take e.g. Clematis armandii? Even then, it's
pushing it. Russian vine is all that came immediately to mind but then

only
if it can't out-thug something else. The problem is the boundary being
chain link - it it was a wall, some t othe prettier ivies would be
possible....



I know. There is absolutely nothing though, just shrubs and low trees at the
west side of the chain link......
We live in Lincolnshire and we have also been wondering about the Russian
vine - but its vigour makes me careful. Is that the same plant as Fallopia
aubertii (not sure how common that one is here but it is almost a weed in
Holland)?
Also thought about Humulus lupulus - more attractive but that would leave us
'bare' in winter. Another possibility we wondered about is the Clematis
montana group........

Annelies


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Annelies 22-02-2004 06:43 PM

replacing old fence
 

Not much seems to be the answer, though it does depend a bit on where you
live. Could your climate take e.g. Clematis armandii? Even then, it's
pushing it. Russian vine is all that came immediately to mind but then

only
if it can't out-thug something else. The problem is the boundary being
chain link - it it was a wall, some t othe prettier ivies would be
possible....



I know. There is absolutely nothing though, just shrubs and low trees at the
west side of the chain link......
We live in Lincolnshire and we have also been wondering about the Russian
vine - but its vigour makes me careful. Is that the same plant as Fallopia
aubertii (not sure how common that one is here but it is almost a weed in
Holland)?
Also thought about Humulus lupulus - more attractive but that would leave us
'bare' in winter. Another possibility we wondered about is the Clematis
montana group........

Annelies


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Sacha 22-02-2004 06:44 PM

replacing old fence
 
Annelies22/2/04 2:45


Not much seems to be the answer, though it does depend a bit on where you
live. Could your climate take e.g. Clematis armandii? Even then, it's
pushing it. Russian vine is all that came immediately to mind but then

only
if it can't out-thug something else. The problem is the boundary being
chain link - it it was a wall, some t othe prettier ivies would be
possible....



I know. There is absolutely nothing though, just shrubs and low trees at the
west side of the chain link......
We live in Lincolnshire and we have also been wondering about the Russian
vine - but its vigour makes me careful. Is that the same plant as Fallopia
aubertii (not sure how common that one is here but it is almost a weed in
Holland)?
Also thought about Humulus lupulus - more attractive but that would leave us
'bare' in winter. Another possibility we wondered about is the Clematis
montana group........


Your Fallopia and the Polygonatum (Russian Vine) are the same. As I said,
it depends on what else it can 'eat'. Amazingly enough, I tried once to
grow this plant on a very bare patch at the end of a field that bordered my
then drive and it died. I think that might almost be a claim to fame!
C. armandii probably wouldn't be happy in that situation but Ray thinks you
could try the C. montanas. However, none of these will give you ayr privacy
and there are no guarantees any would survive except the Russian vine,
perhaps. Is it possible for you to either plant a row of shrubs in front of
the fence or to put up another fence. Not very helpful, I know. ;-(
Can you trade favours with a brickie and get him to put you up a wall?!
Sort of 4 hours gardening from you for 4 hours of wall from him?

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Sacha 22-02-2004 06:44 PM

replacing old fence
 
Annelies22/2/04 2:45


Not much seems to be the answer, though it does depend a bit on where you
live. Could your climate take e.g. Clematis armandii? Even then, it's
pushing it. Russian vine is all that came immediately to mind but then

only
if it can't out-thug something else. The problem is the boundary being
chain link - it it was a wall, some t othe prettier ivies would be
possible....



I know. There is absolutely nothing though, just shrubs and low trees at the
west side of the chain link......
We live in Lincolnshire and we have also been wondering about the Russian
vine - but its vigour makes me careful. Is that the same plant as Fallopia
aubertii (not sure how common that one is here but it is almost a weed in
Holland)?
Also thought about Humulus lupulus - more attractive but that would leave us
'bare' in winter. Another possibility we wondered about is the Clematis
montana group........


Your Fallopia and the Polygonatum (Russian Vine) are the same. As I said,
it depends on what else it can 'eat'. Amazingly enough, I tried once to
grow this plant on a very bare patch at the end of a field that bordered my
then drive and it died. I think that might almost be a claim to fame!
C. armandii probably wouldn't be happy in that situation but Ray thinks you
could try the C. montanas. However, none of these will give you ayr privacy
and there are no guarantees any would survive except the Russian vine,
perhaps. Is it possible for you to either plant a row of shrubs in front of
the fence or to put up another fence. Not very helpful, I know. ;-(
Can you trade favours with a brickie and get him to put you up a wall?!
Sort of 4 hours gardening from you for 4 hours of wall from him?

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Annelies 22-02-2004 06:45 PM

replacing old fence
 

Not much seems to be the answer, though it does depend a bit on where you
live. Could your climate take e.g. Clematis armandii? Even then, it's
pushing it. Russian vine is all that came immediately to mind but then

only
if it can't out-thug something else. The problem is the boundary being
chain link - it it was a wall, some t othe prettier ivies would be
possible....



I know. There is absolutely nothing though, just shrubs and low trees at the
west side of the chain link......
We live in Lincolnshire and we have also been wondering about the Russian
vine - but its vigour makes me careful. Is that the same plant as Fallopia
aubertii (not sure how common that one is here but it is almost a weed in
Holland)?
Also thought about Humulus lupulus - more attractive but that would leave us
'bare' in winter. Another possibility we wondered about is the Clematis
montana group........

Annelies


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Rod 22-02-2004 06:45 PM

replacing old fence
 

"Annelies" wrote in message et...
We would like to rip a rotten overlap fence out - there is a chain link
fence right behind it keeping the next door school kids on their side
anyway. It is an East facing boundary with nothing much in front of it (yet,
remember our blank canvass?) and we would like to plant climbers which give
us our privacy back as fast and as long as possible.
The chain link fence is 7 ft high and about 80 ft long. Soil is not too bad,
bit of clay but nothing extraordinary.

I sometimes think climbers on that sort of fence look a bit odd but that's a matter of taste and my word isn't law
in such matters. My own preference if there's room is for a border of fairly vigorous shrubs preferably growing
through the fence - but a bit in from the fence if there's any chance of the neighbours being tempted to mutilate
anything that grows through the fence. I that idea appeals to you I'm sure the congregation can give you a big
list.

Rod



Rod 22-02-2004 06:45 PM

replacing old fence
 

"Annelies" wrote in message et...
We would like to rip a rotten overlap fence out - there is a chain link
fence right behind it keeping the next door school kids on their side
anyway. It is an East facing boundary with nothing much in front of it (yet,
remember our blank canvass?) and we would like to plant climbers which give
us our privacy back as fast and as long as possible.
The chain link fence is 7 ft high and about 80 ft long. Soil is not too bad,
bit of clay but nothing extraordinary.

I sometimes think climbers on that sort of fence look a bit odd but that's a matter of taste and my word isn't law
in such matters. My own preference if there's room is for a border of fairly vigorous shrubs preferably growing
through the fence - but a bit in from the fence if there's any chance of the neighbours being tempted to mutilate
anything that grows through the fence. I that idea appeals to you I'm sure the congregation can give you a big
list.

Rod



Sacha 22-02-2004 06:45 PM

replacing old fence
 
Annelies22/2/04 2:45


Not much seems to be the answer, though it does depend a bit on where you
live. Could your climate take e.g. Clematis armandii? Even then, it's
pushing it. Russian vine is all that came immediately to mind but then

only
if it can't out-thug something else. The problem is the boundary being
chain link - it it was a wall, some t othe prettier ivies would be
possible....



I know. There is absolutely nothing though, just shrubs and low trees at the
west side of the chain link......
We live in Lincolnshire and we have also been wondering about the Russian
vine - but its vigour makes me careful. Is that the same plant as Fallopia
aubertii (not sure how common that one is here but it is almost a weed in
Holland)?
Also thought about Humulus lupulus - more attractive but that would leave us
'bare' in winter. Another possibility we wondered about is the Clematis
montana group........


Your Fallopia and the Polygonatum (Russian Vine) are the same. As I said,
it depends on what else it can 'eat'. Amazingly enough, I tried once to
grow this plant on a very bare patch at the end of a field that bordered my
then drive and it died. I think that might almost be a claim to fame!
C. armandii probably wouldn't be happy in that situation but Ray thinks you
could try the C. montanas. However, none of these will give you ayr privacy
and there are no guarantees any would survive except the Russian vine,
perhaps. Is it possible for you to either plant a row of shrubs in front of
the fence or to put up another fence. Not very helpful, I know. ;-(
Can you trade favours with a brickie and get him to put you up a wall?!
Sort of 4 hours gardening from you for 4 hours of wall from him?

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Rod 22-02-2004 06:45 PM

replacing old fence
 

"Annelies" wrote in message et...
We would like to rip a rotten overlap fence out - there is a chain link
fence right behind it keeping the next door school kids on their side
anyway. It is an East facing boundary with nothing much in front of it (yet,
remember our blank canvass?) and we would like to plant climbers which give
us our privacy back as fast and as long as possible.
The chain link fence is 7 ft high and about 80 ft long. Soil is not too bad,
bit of clay but nothing extraordinary.

I sometimes think climbers on that sort of fence look a bit odd but that's a matter of taste and my word isn't law
in such matters. My own preference if there's room is for a border of fairly vigorous shrubs preferably growing
through the fence - but a bit in from the fence if there's any chance of the neighbours being tempted to mutilate
anything that grows through the fence. I that idea appeals to you I'm sure the congregation can give you a big
list.

Rod



Janet Baraclough .. 22-02-2004 08:04 PM

replacing old fence
 
The message
from "Annelies" contains these words:

NO suggestions at all????
You expect me to believe that?


I suggest you cultivate some better manners.

Janet.

Franz Heymann 22-02-2004 11:31 PM

replacing old fence
 

"Janet Baraclough .." wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Annelies" contains these words:

NO suggestions at all????
You expect me to believe that?


I suggest you cultivate some better manners.


Note for Annelies:

Please disregard Janet's homilies. She is our pet policewoman, with
responsibility for the maintenence of good manners. It keeps her happy, but
nobody pays any attention to her attempts to make us toe the line.

Franz




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