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Old 26-02-2004, 08:55 PM
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"BonzaiMaster" wrote in message
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I just can't imagine 12' x 3' being a terribly useful size, that's

all.

A sheltered 12 ft long wall rack for tools and hosepipes filling in

an
awkward gap by the side of a house? Or along the side of the garage
while still leaving space to walk outside the shed?


You are quite right - it's filling an awkward gap at the side of a new
house.

With new builds (houses) being the way they are, the gardens they give

you
are not large and I wanted to use a 'not so useful' part of the garden
sensibly. Also the house does not have a garage so what I intended to

do was
to get a 12ftx3ft shed and partition it to have two separate spaces

(also
with two doors). One side would be used as a standard shed and the

other
would give some storage area for items I would normally throw into the
garage.

I guess I should also consider putting two smaller sheds together. I

just
thought it would be a neater solution to get a all in one solution.


OK, sorry, I thought the 3 must have been a typo.

I don't think the price sounds that bad, considering it will be erected
for you. Not all sheds are equal - do you know what size framing they
plan to use, which timber is specified for the cladding etc. Does it
include guttering? What type of roof?

Regards

Neil


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Old 26-02-2004, 08:56 PM
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OK, sorry, I thought the 3 must have been a typo.

I don't think the price sounds that bad, considering it will be erected
for you. Not all sheds are equal - do you know what size framing they
plan to use, which timber is specified for the cladding etc. Does it
include guttering? What type of roof?


I'm trying to get that information at the moment. It's from
www.shedshop.co.uk. The price breakdown is £499 for the shed and £75 for
installation and delivery.


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Old 26-02-2004, 09:06 PM
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I just can't imagine 12' x 3' being a terribly useful size, that's all.


Rather depends on the space it has to fit into.

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Old 26-02-2004, 09:21 PM
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In article , BonzaiMaster
writes
I just can't imagine 12' x 3' being a terribly useful size, that's all.

A sheltered 12 ft long wall rack for tools and hosepipes filling in an
awkward gap by the side of a house? Or along the side of the garage
while still leaving space to walk outside the shed?


You are quite right - it's filling an awkward gap at the side of a new
house.

I think there's a planning law which says that you mustn't build within
3ft of a boundary (it's to allow you access for outside maintenance
without stepping on the next chap's land). I don't think it would apply
to a shed, which is a non-permanent structure (and certainly the garage
belonging to the neighbour at the end of our garden is only 6inches form
our wall), but it might be as well to chat over your plans with your
neighbour first, and get him on-side. Point out how much tidier this
will be than having a glory hole along the side of the house.
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Old 27-02-2004, 05:13 AM
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from "BonzaiMaster" contains these words:

I'm trying to get that information at the moment. It's from
www.shedshop.co.uk. The price breakdown is £499 for the shed and £75 for
installation and delivery.


Oh, a thought: have you considered having a lean-to against the wall of
the house? That should do away with one side and allow a single pitched
roof, a considerable reduction in material, and a much easier roof to
make than a ridged one. Also, it will afford a small amount of extra
insulation.

You may need to make it so that you can unscrew a few plates to remove
it (even if you never intend to) - that way I don't think it comes under
planning regs.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/


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Old 27-02-2004, 08:07 AM
Cicero
 
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"Neil Jones" wrote in message
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"BonzaiMaster" wrote in message
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I looking for a 12ft x 3ft custom shed.

The cheapest quote I've had so far is £575 (including delivery and
installation). This sounds high to me.

Anyone know of any places in Surrey that can provide custom made

sheds?

Thanks



Assuming you didn't really mean 12ft x 3ft, I think we would really need
to know the real size before commenting on the price.

Regards

Neil


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The OP did say that he wanted a 'custom shed' so he probably did mean 12' x
3'.

I think the price he was quoted is rather high since I had a 6' x 3' shed
made to order and that cost me £120-00p so I would expect the OP's shed to
cost about double at £240-00p including delivery / assembly.

Cic.


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Old 27-02-2004, 08:12 AM
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"Neil Jones" wrote in message
...

"BonzaiMaster" wrote in message
...
I looking for a 12ft x 3ft custom shed.

The cheapest quote I've had so far is £575 (including delivery and
installation). This sounds high to me.

Anyone know of any places in Surrey that can provide custom made

sheds?

Thanks



Assuming you didn't really mean 12ft x 3ft, I think we would really need
to know the real size before commenting on the price.

Regards

Neil


==================
The OP did say that he wanted a 'custom shed' so he probably did mean 12' x
3'.

I think the price he was quoted is rather high since I had a 6' x 3' shed
made to order and that cost me £120-00p so I would expect the OP's shed to
cost about double at £240-00p including delivery / assembly.

Cic.


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Old 27-02-2004, 10:21 AM
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"BonzaiMaster" wrote in message
...
I think there's a planning law which says that you mustn't build within
3ft of a boundary (it's to allow you access for outside maintenance
without stepping on the next chap's land). I don't think it would apply
to a shed, which is a non-permanent structure (and certainly the garage
belonging to the neighbour at the end of our garden is only 6inches form
our wall), but it might be as well to chat over your plans with your
neighbour first, and get him on-side. Point out how much tidier this
will be than having a glory hole along the side of the house.
--


Thanks for the advice.

The neighbour in question has just put a shed about 5 inches from our

fence.
Therefore I hope they will not mind if I do the same.


:-) that is true insurance against them complaining!!!

FWIW there are things in planning about structure within 5m (IIRC) of the
house eating into your permitted development, but also a lot of new houses
have clauses that state there are is no permitted development (permitted
development is the mechanism which means that you do not have to go through
the planning process for extensions up to a certain volume, e.g. dormers for
loft conversion, conservatories, extensions, etc).

Have a look on your council's website - they usually publish the rules for
permitted development there. LB Richmond-upon-Thames' guidelines on
permitted development (my council) are at:

http://www.richmond.gov.uk/depts/env...idance/Permitt
ed_Development/Lawful%20Development%20Certificates%20Explained.pd f


It'd only normally be a problem when you come to sell a house, a sharp
purchasor's solicitor would ask questions and may spot this, but if such a
purchase was to be jeapordised by this then you'd probably just remove the
shed, reduce the utility to the new purchasors, and stick at your original
sale price, so nothing lost really (except to the new purchasors, who'd have
been better off not pressing the issue!) and if it were me I'd really not
worry about it.

Two smaller sheds or a custom built lean-to might be a cheaper proposition.
If you get the urge to build one yourself from scratch then google search
through uk.d-i-y - a few people have posted good descriptions about the
construction of their sheds. If you were to price up the materials for
framing, roofing, cladding with shiplap or featheredge, flooring, doors,
windows, etc, then you may find that you are not saving that much.

For the price quoted I'd be expecting cladding with shiplap rather than
(cheaper) featheredge.


--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk


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Old 27-02-2004, 10:36 AM
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"BonzaiMaster" wrote in message
...
I think there's a planning law which says that you mustn't build within
3ft of a boundary (it's to allow you access for outside maintenance
without stepping on the next chap's land). I don't think it would apply
to a shed, which is a non-permanent structure (and certainly the garage
belonging to the neighbour at the end of our garden is only 6inches form
our wall), but it might be as well to chat over your plans with your
neighbour first, and get him on-side. Point out how much tidier this
will be than having a glory hole along the side of the house.
--


Thanks for the advice.

The neighbour in question has just put a shed about 5 inches from our

fence.
Therefore I hope they will not mind if I do the same.


:-) that is true insurance against them complaining!!!

FWIW there are things in planning about structure within 5m (IIRC) of the
house eating into your permitted development, but also a lot of new houses
have clauses that state there are is no permitted development (permitted
development is the mechanism which means that you do not have to go through
the planning process for extensions up to a certain volume, e.g. dormers for
loft conversion, conservatories, extensions, etc).

Have a look on your council's website - they usually publish the rules for
permitted development there. LB Richmond-upon-Thames' guidelines on
permitted development (my council) are at:

http://www.richmond.gov.uk/depts/env...idance/Permitt
ed_Development/Lawful%20Development%20Certificates%20Explained.pd f


It'd only normally be a problem when you come to sell a house, a sharp
purchasor's solicitor would ask questions and may spot this, but if such a
purchase was to be jeapordised by this then you'd probably just remove the
shed, reduce the utility to the new purchasors, and stick at your original
sale price, so nothing lost really (except to the new purchasors, who'd have
been better off not pressing the issue!) and if it were me I'd really not
worry about it.

Two smaller sheds or a custom built lean-to might be a cheaper proposition.
If you get the urge to build one yourself from scratch then google search
through uk.d-i-y - a few people have posted good descriptions about the
construction of their sheds. If you were to price up the materials for
framing, roofing, cladding with shiplap or featheredge, flooring, doors,
windows, etc, then you may find that you are not saving that much.

For the price quoted I'd be expecting cladding with shiplap rather than
(cheaper) featheredge.


--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk


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Old 27-02-2004, 10:44 AM
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"BonzaiMaster" wrote in message
...
I think there's a planning law which says that you mustn't build within
3ft of a boundary (it's to allow you access for outside maintenance
without stepping on the next chap's land). I don't think it would apply
to a shed, which is a non-permanent structure (and certainly the garage
belonging to the neighbour at the end of our garden is only 6inches form
our wall), but it might be as well to chat over your plans with your
neighbour first, and get him on-side. Point out how much tidier this
will be than having a glory hole along the side of the house.
--


Thanks for the advice.

The neighbour in question has just put a shed about 5 inches from our

fence.
Therefore I hope they will not mind if I do the same.


:-) that is true insurance against them complaining!!!

FWIW there are things in planning about structure within 5m (IIRC) of the
house eating into your permitted development, but also a lot of new houses
have clauses that state there are is no permitted development (permitted
development is the mechanism which means that you do not have to go through
the planning process for extensions up to a certain volume, e.g. dormers for
loft conversion, conservatories, extensions, etc).

Have a look on your council's website - they usually publish the rules for
permitted development there. LB Richmond-upon-Thames' guidelines on
permitted development (my council) are at:

http://www.richmond.gov.uk/depts/env...idance/Permitt
ed_Development/Lawful%20Development%20Certificates%20Explained.pd f


It'd only normally be a problem when you come to sell a house, a sharp
purchasor's solicitor would ask questions and may spot this, but if such a
purchase was to be jeapordised by this then you'd probably just remove the
shed, reduce the utility to the new purchasors, and stick at your original
sale price, so nothing lost really (except to the new purchasors, who'd have
been better off not pressing the issue!) and if it were me I'd really not
worry about it.

Two smaller sheds or a custom built lean-to might be a cheaper proposition.
If you get the urge to build one yourself from scratch then google search
through uk.d-i-y - a few people have posted good descriptions about the
construction of their sheds. If you were to price up the materials for
framing, roofing, cladding with shiplap or featheredge, flooring, doors,
windows, etc, then you may find that you are not saving that much.

For the price quoted I'd be expecting cladding with shiplap rather than
(cheaper) featheredge.


--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk




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Old 27-02-2004, 10:03 PM
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Two smaller sheds or a custom built lean-to might be a cheaper
proposition.
If you get the urge to build one yourself from scratch then google search
through uk.d-i-y - a few people have posted good descriptions about the
construction of their sheds. If you were to price up the materials for
framing, roofing, cladding with shiplap or featheredge, flooring, doors,
windows, etc, then you may find that you are not saving that much.

For the price quoted I'd be expecting cladding with shiplap rather than
(cheaper) featheredge.


Thanks for the useful info.



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Old 27-02-2004, 10:03 PM
BonzaiMaster
 
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Default Custom made shed required

Two smaller sheds or a custom built lean-to might be a cheaper
proposition.
If you get the urge to build one yourself from scratch then google search
through uk.d-i-y - a few people have posted good descriptions about the
construction of their sheds. If you were to price up the materials for
framing, roofing, cladding with shiplap or featheredge, flooring, doors,
windows, etc, then you may find that you are not saving that much.

For the price quoted I'd be expecting cladding with shiplap rather than
(cheaper) featheredge.


Thanks for the useful info.



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Old 27-02-2004, 10:03 PM
BonzaiMaster
 
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Two smaller sheds or a custom built lean-to might be a cheaper
proposition.
If you get the urge to build one yourself from scratch then google search
through uk.d-i-y - a few people have posted good descriptions about the
construction of their sheds. If you were to price up the materials for
framing, roofing, cladding with shiplap or featheredge, flooring, doors,
windows, etc, then you may find that you are not saving that much.

For the price quoted I'd be expecting cladding with shiplap rather than
(cheaper) featheredge.


Thanks for the useful info.



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Old 27-02-2004, 10:17 PM
BonzaiMaster
 
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Two smaller sheds or a custom built lean-to might be a cheaper
proposition.
If you get the urge to build one yourself from scratch then google search
through uk.d-i-y - a few people have posted good descriptions about the
construction of their sheds. If you were to price up the materials for
framing, roofing, cladding with shiplap or featheredge, flooring, doors,
windows, etc, then you may find that you are not saving that much.

For the price quoted I'd be expecting cladding with shiplap rather than
(cheaper) featheredge.


Thanks for the useful info.



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Two smaller sheds or a custom built lean-to might be a cheaper
proposition.
If you get the urge to build one yourself from scratch then google search
through uk.d-i-y - a few people have posted good descriptions about the
construction of their sheds. If you were to price up the materials for
framing, roofing, cladding with shiplap or featheredge, flooring, doors,
windows, etc, then you may find that you are not saving that much.

For the price quoted I'd be expecting cladding with shiplap rather than
(cheaper) featheredge.


Thanks for the useful info.



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