Hello,

Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
"frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).

The Rowan, or Mountain Ash did not show up on the list of
suggestions offered in response to my original question, but I reckon it's
got
a lot going for it. I was particularly interested in the variety "Joseph
Rock",
allegedly with bright green leaves, white pannicles of flowers in the
spring,
with excellent autumn colours and persistent yellow berries that the birds
seem to turn their noses up at. Peaks out at 25 foot, but 20 foot in 20
years
seems to be the average initial growth rate, so manageable for a small
garden.

Does anyone here have any experience of this variety? I should
appreciate an opinion from someone who has one in their garden, if they're
looking in,

cheers,

Andy.

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Hello,

Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
"frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).

The Rowan, or Mountain Ash did not show up on the list of
suggestions offered in response to my original question, but I reckon it's
got
a lot going for it. I was particularly interested in the variety "Joseph
Rock",(snip)

Does anyone here have any experience of this variety? I should
appreciate an opinion from someone who has one in their garden, if they're
looking in,

Yes, I had it in my last garden near Loch Lomond, which was wet cold
and windy. It's a good choice, beautiful, tough and foolproof, and even
young trees set fruit.

It will stand colder weather and stronger winds than either the acacia
or the robinia.
Amelanchier is pretty and just as tough as sorbus Joseph Rock, but it
suckers, and all its displays are shorter (flowers, berries, autumn leaf
colour). I prefer amelanchier in a group of plants rather than as a
specimen.

Sorbus JR is easy to source from almost any garden centre, but it's
worth looking for one that's been well grown and cared for. Most of them
will be grafted. You'll see the graft "join" near the bottom of the
trunk, pick one that has a clean even looking graft union. If you get a
choice of sizes (small ones will be cheaper), I'd go for the small one.
They settle in much faster than tall pot-grown trees, and will catch up
growth within a year or two.

Janet.

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Hello,

Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
"frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).

The Rowan, or Mountain Ash did not show up on the list of
suggestions offered in response to my original question, but I reckon it's
got
a lot going for it. I was particularly interested in the variety "Joseph
Rock",
allegedly with bright green leaves, white pannicles of flowers in the
spring,
with excellent autumn colours and persistent yellow berries that the birds
seem to turn their noses up at. Peaks out at 25 foot, but 20 foot in 20
years
seems to be the average initial growth rate, so manageable for a small
garden.

Does anyone here have any experience of this variety? I should
appreciate an opinion from someone who has one in their garden, if they're
looking in,

Yes, I'm fairly sure one of the ones I planted was Joseph Rock. Your
description is about right. I'm growing it on wet clay at 400ft in
Yorkshire. It's healthy and trouble free.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

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from "andrewpreece" contains these words:
Hello,

Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
"frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).

The Rowan, or Mountain Ash did not show up on the list of
suggestions offered in response to my original question, but I reckon it's
got
a lot going for it.

It did here.

I was particularly interested in the variety "Joseph
Rock",
allegedly with bright green leaves, white pannicles of flowers in the
spring,
with excellent autumn colours and persistent yellow berries that the birds
seem to turn their noses up at. Peaks out at 25 foot, but 20 foot in 20
years
seems to be the average initial growth rate, so manageable for a small
garden.

Does anyone here have any experience of this variety? I should
appreciate an opinion from someone who has one in their garden, if they're
looking in,

There is at least on in St. Mary's Parish Churchyard, Diss, should you
feel like a trip into civilisation....

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

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from "andrewpreece" contains these words:
Hello,

Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
"frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).

The Rowan, or Mountain Ash did not show up on the list of
suggestions offered in response to my original question, but I reckon it's
got
a lot going for it.

It did here.

I was particularly interested in the variety "Joseph
Rock",
allegedly with bright green leaves, white pannicles of flowers in the
spring,
with excellent autumn colours and persistent yellow berries that the birds
seem to turn their noses up at. Peaks out at 25 foot, but 20 foot in 20
years
seems to be the average initial growth rate, so manageable for a small
garden.

Does anyone here have any experience of this variety? I should
appreciate an opinion from someone who has one in their garden, if they're
looking in,

There is at least on in St. Mary's Parish Churchyard, Diss, should you
feel like a trip into civilisation....

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

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...
Hello,

Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am
now
down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia
pseudoacacia
"frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).

The Rowan, or Mountain Ash did not show up on the list of
suggestions offered in response to my original question, but I reckon it's
got
a lot going for it. I was particularly interested in the variety "Joseph
Rock",
allegedly with bright green leaves, white pannicles of flowers in the
spring,
with excellent autumn colours and persistent yellow berries that the birds
seem to turn their noses up at.

You should see the Fieldfares and Redwings on the Rowan just over the road.
What a delight.

Peaks out at 25 foot, but 20 foot in 20
years
seems to be the average initial growth rate, so manageable for a small
garden.

Does anyone here have any experience of this variety? I should
appreciate an opinion from someone who has one in their garden, if they're
looking in,

Franz

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:02:22 -0000, "andrewpreece" said:

] Hello,
]
] Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
] down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
] "frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).
]

Andy,

I missed most of the original thread, but did anyone suggest a Liquidambar?
Very pretty, the variegated ones have a lot of interest.

I've got a Robinia Pseudoacacia frisia, been in for about 8 years. It's a nice tree
but it takes a lot of wind damage. Also, for reasons unknown it hasn't flowered
in a few years. Did have a swarm of bees in it last year, though. If wind is an
issue at all I'd not recommend this or the acacia.

Rowans are lovely trees, the one you describe sounds very tempting indeed!
We have a Whitebeam (Sorbus Aria Lutescens) that hasn't been in very long,
but it's already very showy. Can't go wrong with a Rowan, IMHO.

Good luck!

-E

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:02:22 -0000, "andrewpreece" said:

] Hello,
]
] Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
] down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
] "frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).
]

Andy,

I missed most of the original thread, but did anyone suggest a Liquidambar?
Very pretty, the variegated ones have a lot of interest.

I've got a Robinia Pseudoacacia frisia, been in for about 8 years. It's a nice tree
but it takes a lot of wind damage. Also, for reasons unknown it hasn't flowered
in a few years. Did have a swarm of bees in it last year, though. If wind is an
issue at all I'd not recommend this or the acacia.

Rowans are lovely trees, the one you describe sounds very tempting indeed!
We have a Whitebeam (Sorbus Aria Lutescens) that hasn't been in very long,
but it's already very showy. Can't go wrong with a Rowan, IMHO.

Good luck!

-E

--
Emery Davis
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from "andrewpreece" contains these words:

Peaks out at 25 foot, but 20 foot in 20
years


According to Collins Trees of Britain and Northern Europe the Sorbus JR
is a first class garden tree, has fiery autumn colours and lemon-yellow
berries and grows up to 12m tall. The Rowan will grow almost anywhere
from mountain tops in Scotland to streets in the city. The Kashmir
Rowan (7m), and Vilmorin's Rowan (8m) are smaller.

--
Cheers,
Compo

If a man talks in a forest and there is no woman there to contradict
him, is he still wrong?

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:02:22 -0000, "andrewpreece" said:

] Hello,
]
] Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
] down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
] "frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).
]

Andy,

I missed most of the original thread, but did anyone suggest a Liquidambar?
Very pretty, the variegated ones have a lot of interest.

I've got a Robinia Pseudoacacia frisia, been in for about 8 years. It's a nice tree
but it takes a lot of wind damage. Also, for reasons unknown it hasn't flowered
in a few years. Did have a swarm of bees in it last year, though. If wind is an
issue at all I'd not recommend this or the acacia.

Rowans are lovely trees, the one you describe sounds very tempting indeed!
We have a Whitebeam (Sorbus Aria Lutescens) that hasn't been in very long,
but it's already very showy. Can't go wrong with a Rowan, IMHO.

Good luck!

-E

--
Emery Davis
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The message
from "andrewpreece" contains these words:

Peaks out at 25 foot, but 20 foot in 20
years


According to Collins Trees of Britain and Northern Europe the Sorbus JR
is a first class garden tree, has fiery autumn colours and lemon-yellow
berries and grows up to 12m tall. The Rowan will grow almost anywhere
from mountain tops in Scotland to streets in the city. The Kashmir
Rowan (7m), and Vilmorin's Rowan (8m) are smaller.

--
Cheers,
Compo

If a man talks in a forest and there is no woman there to contradict
him, is he still wrong?

The message
from "andrewpreece" contains these words:

Peaks out at 25 foot, but 20 foot in 20
years


According to Collins Trees of Britain and Northern Europe the Sorbus JR
is a first class garden tree, has fiery autumn colours and lemon-yellow
berries and grows up to 12m tall. The Rowan will grow almost anywhere
from mountain tops in Scotland to streets in the city. The Kashmir
Rowan (7m), and Vilmorin's Rowan (8m) are smaller.

--
Cheers,
Compo

If a man talks in a forest and there is no woman there to contradict
him, is he still wrong?

Emery Davis25/2/04 10:34

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:02:22 -0000, "andrewpreece"
said:

] Hello,
]
] Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
] down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
] "frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).
]

Andy,

I missed most of the original thread, but did anyone suggest a Liquidambar?
Very pretty, the variegated ones have a lot of interest.

I've got a Robinia Pseudoacacia frisia, been in for about 8 years. It's a
nice tree
but it takes a lot of wind damage. snip

That is why we tend to advise people buy Gleditisa triacanthos 'Suburst'.
It doesn't have the same wind damage but does give the most wonderful
colour.

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

Emery Davis25/2/04 10:34

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:02:22 -0000, "andrewpreece"
said:

] Hello,
]
] Further to my request for info on interesting specimen trees, I am now
] down to four candidates; acacia dealbata, amelanchier, robinia pseudoacacia
] "frisia", and the Rowan ( Sorbus Aucuparia ).
]

Andy,

I missed most of the original thread, but did anyone suggest a Liquidambar?
Very pretty, the variegated ones have a lot of interest.

I've got a Robinia Pseudoacacia frisia, been in for about 8 years. It's a
nice tree
but it takes a lot of wind damage. snip

That is why we tend to advise people buy Gleditisa triacanthos 'Suburst'.
It doesn't have the same wind damage but does give the most wonderful
colour.

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:08:39 +0000, Sacha said:

] Emery Davis25/2/04 10:34
] ]
][]
] I've got a Robinia Pseudoacacia frisia, been in for about 8 years. It's a
] nice tree
] but it takes a lot of wind damage. snip
]
] That is why we tend to advise people buy Gleditisa triacanthos 'Suburst'.
] It doesn't have the same wind damage but does give the most wonderful
] colour.
]

Hi Sacha,

It certainly looks a lot like the Robinia, but does it have flowers? Not that
I've seen any for a while, , but the panicules of scented white flowers can
be lovely? I looked it up in my Botanica, but they're not very clear on this point.

cheers,

-E

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