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Old 28-02-2004, 01:07 AM
Pedt
 
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David W.E. Roberts said:
Jaques, mon cher ami...

Total misunderstanding.

I posted a reply to the NG - in fact the reply should have been cross posted
to the three NGs listed in the original post.

[..]
I was puzzled over the failure of my post to appear.

You crossposted to the moderated group uk.net.net.announce if you
replied to all three groups. Your post would have been rejected for
unna and it then wouldn't appear anywhere due to the way xposting to
a moderated group works.

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Old 28-02-2004, 01:07 AM
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Jaques d'Alltrades said:
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:

Does the line "Followup-To: poster" do strange things?


My post in reply seems destined for the NGs - but then I am using OE which
may do non-standard things :-(


It would seem (from my admittedly scant knowledge of the machinations of
OE) as if it is directed back to you by e-mail.


It should go to the Reply-to: *email* address or, failing an explicitly
set one, the From: *email* address of the poster who sent the article.

Replies to the CFV should go to as that
Reply-To: was set in the CFV.

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Old 28-02-2004, 07:12 AM
Jaques d'Alltrades
 
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The message
from Janet Baraclough .. contains
these words:

You didn't send from the loopback one, did you? Mine got through and
we're using the same ISP.


Tell me what the loop-back one is :-)


Flobalob in your case, foobar in mine. Included in the address after @,
it automatically returns to sender.

The smpt server refusal was to an email posted in Eudora.


Ah. Try ZIMACS

I wonder whether the recent international trawl for pædos has loused-up
the mail and the news?


That might explain why my email spam is reduced this week.


Lucky you.....

Mine dew, my KF is catching nearly all of it now.

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Old 28-02-2004, 07:28 AM
Jaques d'Alltrades
 
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The message
from Janet Baraclough .. contains
these words:

You didn't send from the loopback one, did you? Mine got through and
we're using the same ISP.


Tell me what the loop-back one is :-)


Flobalob in your case, foobar in mine. Included in the address after @,
it automatically returns to sender.

The smpt server refusal was to an email posted in Eudora.


Ah. Try ZIMACS

I wonder whether the recent international trawl for pædos has loused-up
the mail and the news?


That might explain why my email spam is reduced this week.


Lucky you.....

Mine dew, my KF is catching nearly all of it now.

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Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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Old 28-02-2004, 01:37 PM
David W.E. Roberts
 
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"Pedt" "\"@ wrote in message
...
David W.E. Roberts said:
Jaques, mon cher ami...

Total misunderstanding.

I posted a reply to the NG - in fact the reply should have been cross

posted
to the three NGs listed in the original post.

[..]
I was puzzled over the failure of my post to appear.

You crossposted to the moderated group uk.net.net.announce if you
replied to all three groups. Your post would have been rejected for
unna and it then wouldn't appear anywhere due to the way xposting to
a moderated group works.


Pedt,

thanks for that.

Another interesting bit of knowledge to file away.

Does that mean that if you add a moderated NG to a troll thread that all
responses will just diappear?

Cool ;-)

Dave R


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Old 28-02-2004, 01:46 PM
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:24:35 -0000, "David W.E. Roberts"
wrote:

Another interesting bit of knowledge to file away.

Does that mean that if you add a moderated NG to a troll thread that all
responses will just diappear?

Cool ;-)


You could also set follow up to poster.
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Old 28-02-2004, 02:18 PM
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David W.E. Roberts said:

"Pedt" "\"@ wrote in message
...
David W.E. Roberts said:


I was puzzled over the failure of my post to appear.

You crossposted to the moderated group uk.net.net.announce if you
replied to all three groups. Your post would have been rejected for
unna and it then wouldn't appear anywhere due to the way xposting to
a moderated group works.


Hmmm, should have been uk.net.news.announce not uk.net.net.announce

Pedt,

thanks for that.

Another interesting bit of knowledge to file away.


Always useful to know ;-)

Xpost to moderated,unmoderated[,unmoderated] then your post goes by
email to the moderator(s) of the moderated group. If they accept it
then your post appears in all groups. If not accepted then it doesn't
appear anywhere.

Does that mean that if you add a moderated NG to a troll thread that all
responses will just diappear?


Only if they continue the xpost in reply to your article and your
original article was accepted by the moderator so that it can be
replied to. You'd very likely have a ****ed off moderator as well
so I wouldn't recommend it as a means of combating trolls.

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Old 28-02-2004, 06:40 PM
Franz Heymann
 
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:
I have been watching 'uk.net.news.config' for the CFV but it only

arrived
very recently, along with another 3,000 posts.


There is now a long thread in 'uk.rec.gardening' in response, but none

shown
in 'uk.net.news.config'.


I replied to the CFV - which should have cross posted the reply to the 3

NG
in the original posting - but this reply seems to have disappeared.


No, it won't be posted. The reply should be mailed to you automatically.
I hope you used a valid address to reply?

You then snip the bits where instructed, fill in the voting slip, and
e-mail it back to the vote-taker.

So is there some strange thing about replying to CFVs, or is Usenet

banjaxed
at the moment?


No. True, one of the replies to my mail did fall in a hole somewhere,
but a replacement was sent as soon as I e-mailed Pedt. You'll find his
official address on the CFV.

Something is wrong somewhere.
I sent an ordinary e-mail to ask for voting papers 2 days ago. The letrter
seems to have gone, but I have not heard anything since.

And why do I still see nothing about a CFV in either uk.net.news.config, nor
in uk.net.news.announce?

Franz




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Old 28-02-2004, 07:02 PM
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:
I have been watching 'uk.net.news.config' for the CFV but it only

arrived
very recently, along with another 3,000 posts.


There is now a long thread in 'uk.rec.gardening' in response, but none

shown
in 'uk.net.news.config'.


I replied to the CFV - which should have cross posted the reply to the 3

NG
in the original posting - but this reply seems to have disappeared.


No, it won't be posted. The reply should be mailed to you automatically.
I hope you used a valid address to reply?

You then snip the bits where instructed, fill in the voting slip, and
e-mail it back to the vote-taker.

So is there some strange thing about replying to CFVs, or is Usenet

banjaxed
at the moment?


No. True, one of the replies to my mail did fall in a hole somewhere,
but a replacement was sent as soon as I e-mailed Pedt. You'll find his
official address on the CFV.

Something is wrong somewhere.
I sent an ordinary e-mail to ask for voting papers 2 days ago. The letrter
seems to have gone, but I have not heard anything since.

And why do I still see nothing about a CFV in either uk.net.news.config, nor
in uk.net.news.announce?

Franz


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Old 28-02-2004, 07:27 PM
Franz Heymann
 
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "David W.E. Roberts" contains these words:
I have been watching 'uk.net.news.config' for the CFV but it only

arrived
very recently, along with another 3,000 posts.


There is now a long thread in 'uk.rec.gardening' in response, but none

shown
in 'uk.net.news.config'.


I replied to the CFV - which should have cross posted the reply to the 3

NG
in the original posting - but this reply seems to have disappeared.


No, it won't be posted. The reply should be mailed to you automatically.
I hope you used a valid address to reply?

You then snip the bits where instructed, fill in the voting slip, and
e-mail it back to the vote-taker.

So is there some strange thing about replying to CFVs, or is Usenet

banjaxed
at the moment?


No. True, one of the replies to my mail did fall in a hole somewhere,
but a replacement was sent as soon as I e-mailed Pedt. You'll find his
official address on the CFV.

Something is wrong somewhere.
I sent an ordinary e-mail to ask for voting papers 2 days ago. The letrter
seems to have gone, but I have not heard anything since.

And why do I still see nothing about a CFV in either uk.net.news.config, nor
in uk.net.news.announce?

Franz


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Old 28-02-2004, 07:53 PM
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:06:04 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Something is wrong somewhere.
I sent an ordinary e-mail to ask for voting papers 2 days ago. The letrter
seems to have gone, but I have not heard anything since.


Try again?


And why do I still see nothing about a CFV in either uk.net.news.config, nor
in uk.net.news.announce?


Change your news provider to Berlin and try again.
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Old 28-02-2004, 07:54 PM
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:06:04 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Something is wrong somewhere.
I sent an ordinary e-mail to ask for voting papers 2 days ago. The letrter
seems to have gone, but I have not heard anything since.


Try again?


And why do I still see nothing about a CFV in either uk.net.news.config, nor
in uk.net.news.announce?


Change your news provider to Berlin and try again.
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Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad
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Old 28-02-2004, 07:55 PM
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:06:04 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Something is wrong somewhere.
I sent an ordinary e-mail to ask for voting papers 2 days ago. The letrter
seems to have gone, but I have not heard anything since.


Try again?


And why do I still see nothing about a CFV in either uk.net.news.config, nor
in uk.net.news.announce?


Change your news provider to Berlin and try again.
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Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad
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