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Old 17-03-2004, 04:41 AM
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:33:42 +0100, "Jo Hall"
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As I mentioned in my reply to Jon, the nice south facing part of our garden
is very open to the wind. I am not really sure what damages plants mo
lack of sun or lots of wind!


Definitely lack of sun. Nearly all veg and herbs require "full sun"
which means at least 6 hrs/day of direct sunlight. More is better.
Your lettuce might be ok on the shady side, but beans, peppers,
tomatoes, etc. need lots and lots of sun.
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Old 17-03-2004, 04:42 AM
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:33:42 +0100, "Jo Hall"
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As I mentioned in my reply to Jon, the nice south facing part of our garden
is very open to the wind. I am not really sure what damages plants mo
lack of sun or lots of wind!


Definitely lack of sun. Nearly all veg and herbs require "full sun"
which means at least 6 hrs/day of direct sunlight. More is better.
Your lettuce might be ok on the shady side, but beans, peppers,
tomatoes, etc. need lots and lots of sun.
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Old 17-03-2004, 04:42 AM
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:33:42 +0100, "Jo Hall"
wrote:


As I mentioned in my reply to Jon, the nice south facing part of our garden
is very open to the wind. I am not really sure what damages plants mo
lack of sun or lots of wind!


Definitely lack of sun. Nearly all veg and herbs require "full sun"
which means at least 6 hrs/day of direct sunlight.


LOL. Have you visited the northern half of the UK, Frogleg? :-)

Janet.



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Old 17-03-2004, 04:43 AM
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:33:42 +0100, "Jo Hall"
wrote:


As I mentioned in my reply to Jon, the nice south facing part of our garden
is very open to the wind. I am not really sure what damages plants mo
lack of sun or lots of wind!


Definitely lack of sun. Nearly all veg and herbs require "full sun"
which means at least 6 hrs/day of direct sunlight.


LOL. Have you visited the northern half of the UK, Frogleg? :-)

Janet.



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Old 17-03-2004, 04:44 AM
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:33:42 +0100, "Jo Hall"
wrote:


As I mentioned in my reply to Jon, the nice south facing part of our garden
is very open to the wind. I am not really sure what damages plants mo
lack of sun or lots of wind!


Definitely lack of sun. Nearly all veg and herbs require "full sun"
which means at least 6 hrs/day of direct sunlight.


LOL. Have you visited the northern half of the UK, Frogleg? :-)

Janet.





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Old 17-03-2004, 04:45 AM
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:33:42 +0100, "Jo Hall"
wrote:


As I mentioned in my reply to Jon, the nice south facing part of our garden
is very open to the wind. I am not really sure what damages plants mo
lack of sun or lots of wind!


Definitely lack of sun. Nearly all veg and herbs require "full sun"
which means at least 6 hrs/day of direct sunlight.


LOL. Have you visited the northern half of the UK, Frogleg? :-)

Janet.



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Old 17-03-2004, 12:39 PM
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:33:42 +0100, "Jo Hall"
wrote:


As I mentioned in my reply to Jon, the nice south facing part of our garden
is very open to the wind. I am not really sure what damages plants mo
lack of sun or lots of wind!


Definitely lack of sun. Nearly all veg and herbs require "full sun"
which means at least 6 hrs/day of direct sunlight.


LOL. Have you visited the northern half of the UK, Frogleg? :-)


No. Just London. However, because it's darker there in winter,
there'll be *more* sun in summer, no? I do stand by my advice -- the
more sun, the better.
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:33:42 +0100, "Jo Hall"
wrote:


As I mentioned in my reply to Jon, the nice south facing part of our garden
is very open to the wind. I am not really sure what damages plants mo
lack of sun or lots of wind!


Definitely lack of sun. Nearly all veg and herbs require "full sun"
which means at least 6 hrs/day of direct sunlight.


LOL. Have you visited the northern half of the UK, Frogleg? :-)


No. Just London. However, because it's darker there in winter,
there'll be *more* sun in summer, no? I do stand by my advice -- the
more sun, the better.
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Old 18-03-2004, 09:44 AM
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"Frogleg" wrote in message
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| However, because it's darker there [ the North] in winter,
| there'll be *more* sun in summer, no?

???

*More * than what? The south? If you mean this as it sounds, then no:

Northern England is 'darker' than Southern England in winter. It's also
darker in summer and any other time of year. It's darker because the sun is
lower in the sky and so hits the ground more obliquely which means there is
less energy from the sun per square metre.

During our summer, we get more sun relative to the southern *hemisphere*
because of the angle of the earth's axis relative to its orbit, but because
Britain isn't near the equator, it all gets sunnier at the same time during
summer and darker at the same time during winter. And because Northern
Britain is further from the equator than Southern Britain, it's always
darker up north :-(

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Old 18-03-2004, 09:55 AM
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"Frogleg" wrote in message
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| However, because it's darker there [ the North] in winter,
| there'll be *more* sun in summer, no?

???

*More * than what? The south? If you mean this as it sounds, then no:

Northern England is 'darker' than Southern England in winter. It's also
darker in summer and any other time of year. It's darker because the sun is
lower in the sky and so hits the ground more obliquely which means there is
less energy from the sun per square metre.

During our summer, we get more sun relative to the southern *hemisphere*
because of the angle of the earth's axis relative to its orbit, but because
Britain isn't near the equator, it all gets sunnier at the same time during
summer and darker at the same time during winter. And because Northern
Britain is further from the equator than Southern Britain, it's always
darker up north :-(

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Old 18-03-2004, 10:37 AM
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"Frogleg" wrote in message
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| However, because it's darker there [ the North] in winter,
| there'll be *more* sun in summer, no?

???

*More * than what? The south? If you mean this as it sounds, then no:

Northern England is 'darker' than Southern England in winter. It's also
darker in summer and any other time of year. It's darker because the sun is
lower in the sky and so hits the ground more obliquely which means there is
less energy from the sun per square metre.

During our summer, we get more sun relative to the southern *hemisphere*
because of the angle of the earth's axis relative to its orbit, but because
Britain isn't near the equator, it all gets sunnier at the same time during
summer and darker at the same time during winter. And because Northern
Britain is further from the equator than Southern Britain, it's always
darker up north :-(

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Old 18-03-2004, 01:21 PM
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In article , Martin Sykes
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Northern England is 'darker' than Southern England in winter. It's also
darker in summer and any other time of year. It's darker because the sun is
lower in the sky and so hits the ground more obliquely which means there is
less energy from the sun per square metre.



During our summer, we get more sun relative to the southern *hemisphere*
because of the angle of the earth's axis relative to its orbit, but because
Britain isn't near the equator, it all gets sunnier at the same time during
summer and darker at the same time during winter.


Eh? So why in summer is sunset later in scotland compared to SW?

And because Northern
Britain is further from the equator than Southern Britain, it's always
darker up north :-(


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In article , Martin Sykes
writes

Northern England is 'darker' than Southern England in winter. It's also
darker in summer and any other time of year. It's darker because the sun is
lower in the sky and so hits the ground more obliquely which means there is
less energy from the sun per square metre.



During our summer, we get more sun relative to the southern *hemisphere*
because of the angle of the earth's axis relative to its orbit, but because
Britain isn't near the equator, it all gets sunnier at the same time during
summer and darker at the same time during winter.


Eh? So why in summer is sunset later in scotland compared to SW?

And because Northern
Britain is further from the equator than Southern Britain, it's always
darker up north :-(


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm
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Eh? So why in summer is sunset later in scotland compared to SW?


My 'guess' (and I may be completely wrong here) is that if you look at a
map, Scotland is further west than most of England but we are in the same
time zone. The further west you are, the later the sun will set so I'd
expect that if you look at the figures closely, the sunset time in Scotland
say for Glasgow, would be similar to that for Cornwall and both would be
much later than sunset in Kent.
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message
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Eh? So why in summer is sunset later in scotland compared to SW?


My 'guess' (and I may be completely wrong here) is that if you look at a
map, Scotland is further west than most of England but we are in the same
time zone. The further west you are, the later the sun will set so I'd
expect that if you look at the figures closely, the sunset time in Scotland
say for Glasgow, would be similar to that for Cornwall and both would be
much later than sunset in Kent.
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