On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:59:32 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
wrote:


"Colonel Bloomer" wrote in message
.. .


Shame the RSPB are not inclined to spend some of our millions and do
some serious research into this decline

They do.

Really! where?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:58:19 -0000, "D Russell"
wrote:


One thing I notice is not mentioned much is the vast numbers of small birds
caught and killed on certain medeterranian islands, huge nets erected during
migratory periods to harvest anything which flies.

There are fishermen who have done the same to fish and now see it as
an EU conspiracy that there are no fish left.

Great european state we
live in where this would be totally illegal in one country but is fine next
door.

There are countries where half ****ed wonders dress up in antique
clothes to shoot grouse and pheasants specially bred to be shot.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:58:19 -0000, "D Russell"
wrote:


One thing I notice is not mentioned much is the vast numbers of small birds
caught and killed on certain medeterranian islands, huge nets erected during
migratory periods to harvest anything which flies.

There are fishermen who have done the same to fish and now see it as
an EU conspiracy that there are no fish left.

Great european state we
live in where this would be totally illegal in one country but is fine next
door.

There are countries where half ****ed wonders dress up in antique
clothes to shoot grouse and pheasants specially bred to be shot.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:58:19 -0000, "D Russell"
wrote:


One thing I notice is not mentioned much is the vast numbers of small birds
caught and killed on certain medeterranian islands, huge nets erected during
migratory periods to harvest anything which flies.

There are fishermen who have done the same to fish and now see it as
an EU conspiracy that there are no fish left.

Great european state we
live in where this would be totally illegal in one country but is fine next
door.

There are countries where half ****ed wonders dress up in antique
clothes to shoot grouse and pheasants specially bred to be shot.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

I didn't cross post.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

I didn't cross post.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

I didn't cross post.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:49:06 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Thats another factor, cats, though I dont know if there are more than there
used to be. And windows. There must be a lot more, and a lot larger windows
than say 50 years ago. Windows are responsible for huge numbers of bird
deaths every year. (that Bill Gates has a lot to be balmed for)

Ah - a typo.

Perhaps that should read "that Bill Gates has a lot to be embalmed for".

The Pharaohs used to embalm cats. Perhaps Bill Gates is suffering from
delusions again?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:49:06 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Thats another factor, cats, though I dont know if there are more than there
used to be. And windows. There must be a lot more, and a lot larger windows
than say 50 years ago. Windows are responsible for huge numbers of bird
deaths every year. (that Bill Gates has a lot to be balmed for)

Ah - a typo.

Perhaps that should read "that Bill Gates has a lot to be embalmed for".

The Pharaohs used to embalm cats. Perhaps Bill Gates is suffering from
delusions again?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:49:06 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Thats another factor, cats, though I dont know if there are more than there
used to be. And windows. There must be a lot more, and a lot larger windows
than say 50 years ago. Windows are responsible for huge numbers of bird
deaths every year. (that Bill Gates has a lot to be balmed for)

Ah - a typo.

Perhaps that should read "that Bill Gates has a lot to be embalmed for".

The Pharaohs used to embalm cats. Perhaps Bill Gates is suffering from
delusions again?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

What group is the post inappropriate for in trying to discover the
reason for house sparrow decline?

uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.birdwatching,uk.rec .gardening

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

That's because you're a prat with nothing ever worth contributing, and
a troll at that.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

What group is the post inappropriate for in trying to discover the
reason for house sparrow decline?

uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.birdwatching,uk.rec .gardening

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

That's because you're a prat with nothing ever worth contributing, and
a troll at that.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

What group is the post inappropriate for in trying to discover the
reason for house sparrow decline?

uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.birdwatching,uk.rec .gardening

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

That's because you're a prat with nothing ever worth contributing, and
a troll at that.

"Oz" wrote in message
news
Tumbleweed writes
ISTR reading a few years ago that the number of sparrow hawks had risen
hugely since the 1940's, maybe to 50,000 or more, whereas 60 years ago or
so
they were persecuted and very few and far between. If the difference was
say, 40,000 sparrowhawks between then and now, and they each ate 1
sparrow a
day, that would be 14 million less sparrows a year. Plus, every day I see
loads of magpies (probably 10 or 20), which I believe eat other birds
eggs.
When I was a kid I don't think I ever saw one. I would guess the number
of
magpies must have risen 10 fold in the last 30-40 years. That must
account
for a fair few sparrows (and similar) as well. Certainly there are lots
of
aphids and the like in my garden in the summer and I would have said that
most gardeners nowadays used less chemicals than 30 years ago. You
certainly
cant have a rise in the number of predators and expect the prey to remain
constant, after all isn't that the point of all this organic gardening we
hear about, encouraging predators such as hoverfly and ladybirds into
gardens? If that works for them, I don't see why it wouldn't work for
sparrow hawks/ sparrows as well.

"I don't see" Glad to see such an admission of cluenessness

Tsk, tsk!

Its not PC to suggest that predatory birds reduce prey numbers.

You knows the woys of the countryside no doubt.
Did you ever bother reading the results of research on such things?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:51:29 +0000, Colonel Bloomer
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

What group is the post inappropriate for in trying to discover the
reason for house sparrow decline?

uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.birdwatching,uk.re c.gardening

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap
anyway.

That's because you're a prat with nothing ever worth contributing, and
a troll at that.

He's a ****ing A class troll buttwipe. See his other posts for
attempts to destroy threads.

Ignore the ****, we do.