On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:51:29 +0000, Colonel Bloomer
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

What group is the post inappropriate for in trying to discover the
reason for house sparrow decline?

uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.birdwatching,uk.re c.gardening

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap
anyway.

That's because you're a prat with nothing ever worth contributing, and
a troll at that.

He's a ****ing A class troll buttwipe. See his other posts for
attempts to destroy threads.

Ignore the ****, we do.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:51:29 +0000, Colonel Bloomer
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

What group is the post inappropriate for in trying to discover the
reason for house sparrow decline?

uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.birdwatching,uk.re c.gardening

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap
anyway.

That's because you're a prat with nothing ever worth contributing, and
a troll at that.

He's a ****ing A class troll buttwipe. See his other posts for
attempts to destroy threads.

Ignore the ****, we do.

"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
.. .
snip

If magpies eat the eggs and not the adults, what would you expect to see?
Sparrows calling the police?
50,000 sparrow hawks is still quite rare, people are saying there is a
shortage of sparrows yet there are millions of them!

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address

True there are still millions of sparrows, but there are only, something
like 50% of the millions there were a few years ago.

Part of the problem is the perception of there being so many left that we
have nothing to worry about, but it's the vast percentage decline which has
people wondering what's going on. If this rate of decline were to continue
then they'd be none left at all in 5-10 years.

One thing I notice is not mentioned much is the vast numbers of small birds
caught and killed on certain medeterranian islands, huge nets erected during
migratory periods to harvest anything which flies. Great european state we
live in where this would be totally illegal in one country but is fine next
door.

Ho hum.
Duncan

"D Russell" wrote in message
...

One thing I notice is not mentioned much is the vast numbers of small
birds
caught and killed on certain medeterranian islands, huge nets erected
during
migratory periods to harvest anything which flies.

Where do you notice this?

I've seen it mentioned quite a few times, and there are campaigns about
this.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:20:45 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
wrote:


"Colonel Bloomer" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:59:32 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
wrote:


"Colonel Bloomer" wrote in message
.. .


Shame the RSPB are not inclined to spend some of our millions and do
some serious research into this decline

They do.

Really! where?

You may have seen, in this thread, mention of a "Kate" researching this.

She is having her research funded in part by the RSPB.
http://www.birdfood.co.uk/cj/project_hssparrow.htm

Not really an all guns blazing contribution is it, doubtful it even
reaches four figures in total. I'd have thought given the fact they
rake in £50million PA and spend £7million PA on advertising, they
could afford to at least show a real interest in finding out why the
situation is so serious and not only for sparrows.

Better to do it before it's too late I'd suggest.

The first place to start might be to look at where the populations are
stable or expanding, and then see what's missing in declining regions.

This should also have been carried out years ago, but I guess we're
only talking about sparrers!!

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:20:45 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
wrote:


"Colonel Bloomer" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:59:32 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
wrote:


"Colonel Bloomer" wrote in message
.. .


Shame the RSPB are not inclined to spend some of our millions and do
some serious research into this decline

They do.

Really! where?

You may have seen, in this thread, mention of a "Kate" researching this.

She is having her research funded in part by the RSPB.
http://www.birdfood.co.uk/cj/project_hssparrow.htm

Not really an all guns blazing contribution is it, doubtful it even
reaches four figures in total. I'd have thought given the fact they
rake in £50million PA and spend £7million PA on advertising, they
could afford to at least show a real interest in finding out why the
situation is so serious and not only for sparrows.

Better to do it before it's too late I'd suggest.

The first place to start might be to look at where the populations are
stable or expanding, and then see what's missing in declining regions.

This should also have been carried out years ago, but I guess we're
only talking about sparrers!!

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:20:45 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
wrote:


"Colonel Bloomer" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:59:32 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
wrote:


"Colonel Bloomer" wrote in message
.. .


Shame the RSPB are not inclined to spend some of our millions and do
some serious research into this decline

They do.

Really! where?

You may have seen, in this thread, mention of a "Kate" researching this.

She is having her research funded in part by the RSPB.
http://www.birdfood.co.uk/cj/project_hssparrow.htm

Not really an all guns blazing contribution is it, doubtful it even
reaches four figures in total. I'd have thought given the fact they
rake in £50million PA and spend £7million PA on advertising, they
could afford to at least show a real interest in finding out why the
situation is so serious and not only for sparrows.

Better to do it before it's too late I'd suggest.

The first place to start might be to look at where the populations are
stable or expanding, and then see what's missing in declining regions.

This should also have been carried out years ago, but I guess we're
only talking about sparrers!!

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:57:44 -0000, "Tumbleweed"
wrote:


"Oz" wrote in message
...
ned writes
Yes, contrary to popular belief, Nature is not the pretty, pretty
civilised environment that some think it is. It is a harsh, cruel
place to survive in. Everything has its place in the predatory chain
and anything that dies of old age is mighty fortunate.
Hunger will very quickly transform an opportunistic feeder to seek out
an easy meal.


Local spars work gardens and feeders in particular on a regular basis.
The villagers are torn between having such an elegant bird and having
fewer small birds (up to collared doves+). They seem to be far more
effective than cats, not surprising really as flying away is no escape.


snip
Thats another factor, cats, though I dont know if there are more than there
used to be. And windows. There must be a lot more, and a lot larger windows
than say 50 years ago. Windows are responsible for huge numbers of bird
deaths every year. (that Bill Gates has a lot to be balmed for)

Ah - a typo.

Perhaps that should read "that Bill Gates has a lot to be embalmed for".

--
Peter Duncanson
UK

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:59:32 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
wrote:


"Colonel Bloomer" wrote in message
.. .


Shame the RSPB are not inclined to spend some of our millions and do
some serious research into this decline

They do.

Really! where?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:58:19 -0000, "D Russell"
wrote:


One thing I notice is not mentioned much is the vast numbers of small birds
caught and killed on certain medeterranian islands, huge nets erected during
migratory periods to harvest anything which flies.

There are fishermen who have done the same to fish and now see it as
an EU conspiracy that there are no fish left.

Great european state we
live in where this would be totally illegal in one country but is fine next
door.

There are countries where half ****ed wonders dress up in antique
clothes to shoot grouse and pheasants specially bred to be shot.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

I didn't cross post.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:49:06 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Thats another factor, cats, though I dont know if there are more than there
used to be. And windows. There must be a lot more, and a lot larger windows
than say 50 years ago. Windows are responsible for huge numbers of bird
deaths every year. (that Bill Gates has a lot to be balmed for)

Ah - a typo.

Perhaps that should read "that Bill Gates has a lot to be embalmed for".

The Pharaohs used to embalm cats. Perhaps Bill Gates is suffering from
delusions again?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

What group is the post inappropriate for in trying to discover the
reason for house sparrow decline?

uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.birdwatching,uk.rec .gardening

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap anyway.

That's because you're a prat with nothing ever worth contributing, and
a troll at that.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:51:29 +0000, Colonel Bloomer
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:10:13 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Hang food under a CD.

Troll. Look how many crossposts.....

What group is the post inappropriate for in trying to discover the
reason for house sparrow decline?

uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.birdwatching,uk.re c.gardening

Apart from your post, the whole thread has fallen into my spamtrap
anyway.

That's because you're a prat with nothing ever worth contributing, and
a troll at that.

He's a ****ing A class troll buttwipe. See his other posts for
attempts to destroy threads.

Ignore the ****, we do.