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Old 27-03-2004, 10:32 PM
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David Hill wrote:
Did you know?
Quinine was called the Jesuit bark by the protestants in Cromwell's day and
thus was not allowed in England.
With the result that when Oliver Cromwell caught malaria there was no
effective treatment and he died of it.


It's certainly possible, but it wasn't exactly a routine treatment
then, being first referred to in Europe in 1643. If one of the Web
pages contained a contemporary reference, I would be rather more
convinced by them.

And quinine is, indeed, seriously toxic. In prophylactic dosage, it
leads to nerve damage (usually starting with tinnitus and then
deafness) within a few years - and the same thing applies to more
than a few treatments, because the doses are higher for that.

No, that is not why I am deaf, though I can't rule out that it had
some effect. I wasn't given prophylactic quinine for long, as the
newer and safer drugs started to come out in the late 1940s.
Paludrine, of course, is ineffective against many forms of malaria,
and was when it was introduced.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 27-03-2004, 10:42 PM
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,

And quinine is, indeed, seriously toxic. In prophylactic dosage, it
leads to nerve damage (usually starting with tinnitus and then
deafness) within a few years - and the same thing applies to more
than a few treatments, because the doses are higher for that.


Arggh - don't say that - I take it nightly against cramps ...

Mary

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



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Old 27-03-2004, 11:02 PM
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:34:17 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,

And quinine is, indeed, seriously toxic. In prophylactic dosage, it
leads to nerve damage (usually starting with tinnitus and then
deafness) within a few years - and the same thing applies to more
than a few treatments, because the doses are higher for that.


Arggh - don't say that - I take it nightly against cramps ...


with a large gin?


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Old 27-03-2004, 11:04 PM
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martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:34:17 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,

And quinine is, indeed, seriously toxic. In prophylactic dosage, it
leads to nerve damage (usually starting with tinnitus and then
deafness) within a few years - and the same thing applies to more
than a few treatments, because the doses are higher for that.


Arggh - don't say that - I take it nightly against cramps ...


with a large gin?


Nil desperandum. The amount taken for anything EXCEPT malaria is
unlikely to cause major trouble, but the facts are as I state.

It is a much stronger febrifuge than willow bark (a.k.a. aspirin),
and has many other uses.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 28-03-2004, 02:48 PM
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:34:17 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,

And quinine is, indeed, seriously toxic. In prophylactic dosage, it
leads to nerve damage (usually starting with tinnitus and then
deafness) within a few years - and the same thing applies to more
than a few treatments, because the doses are higher for that.

Arggh - don't say that - I take it nightly against cramps ...


with a large gin?


No - as quinine sulphate tablets, prescribed. They work!

Gin before bed does nothing for me ...

Nil desperandum. The amount taken for anything EXCEPT malaria is
unlikely to cause major trouble, but the facts are as I state.


Phew. I wouldn't like to go back to nightly agony ...

Mary


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Old 28-03-2004, 05:40 PM
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:34:17 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,

And quinine is, indeed, seriously toxic. In

prophylactic dosage, it
leads to nerve damage (usually starting with tinnitus

and then
deafness) within a few years - and the same thing

applies to more
than a few treatments, because the doses are higher

for that.

Arggh - don't say that - I take it nightly against

cramps ...

with a large gin?


Nil desperandum. The amount taken for anything EXCEPT

malaria is
unlikely to cause major trouble, but the facts are as I

state.

It is a much stronger febrifuge than willow bark (a.k.a.

aspirin),
and has many other uses.


Like flavouring tonic water, Ferney Branca and Angostura
bitters?

Franz


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Old 28-03-2004, 05:42 PM
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Date: 26/03/2004 19:41 GMT Standard Time
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I simply
annoy them as much as I can with my mammoth water

pistol

But where do you get Mammoth's water for the ammo?


Tap water is good enough for shooting mammoths.


Is that your personal experience?

You're older than you look.


Thanks for the compliment {:-))

Franz


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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:34:17 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,

And quinine is, indeed, seriously toxic. In

prophylactic dosage, it
leads to nerve damage (usually starting with tinnitus

and then
deafness) within a few years - and the same thing

applies to more
than a few treatments, because the doses are higher

for that.

Arggh - don't say that - I take it nightly against

cramps ...

with a large gin?


Nil desperandum. The amount taken for anything EXCEPT

malaria is
unlikely to cause major trouble, but the facts are as I

state.

It is a much stronger febrifuge than willow bark (a.k.a.

aspirin),
and has many other uses.


Like flavouring tonic water, Ferney Branca and Angostura
bitters?

Franz




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Old 28-03-2004, 06:01 PM
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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"Rhiannon S" wrote in message
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Subject: POISONING CATS?
From: "Franz Heymann"


Date: 26/03/2004 19:41 GMT Standard Time
Message-id:

I simply
annoy them as much as I can with my mammoth water

pistol

But where do you get Mammoth's water for the ammo?


Tap water is good enough for shooting mammoths.


Is that your personal experience?

You're older than you look.


Thanks for the compliment {:-))

Franz


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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:29:11 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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Tap water is good enough for shooting mammoths.


Is that your personal experience?

You're older than you look.


Thanks for the compliment {:-))


LOL

The little boy trapped in your body fooled them again:-)
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:29:11 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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Tap water is good enough for shooting mammoths.


Is that your personal experience?

You're older than you look.


Thanks for the compliment {:-))


LOL

The little boy trapped in your body fooled them again:-)
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